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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
October 19 2011 21:34 GMT
#901
On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:
i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it.
GO FOR IT !
inb4 massive success


I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me.
Never make a hydralisk.
GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
October 19 2011 21:36 GMT
#902
On October 20 2011 06:34 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:
i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it.
GO FOR IT !
inb4 massive success


I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me.



Well it will either
A) Never be on TV
or
B) Never be on TV AGAIN

So it's worth a shot for it to be on TV at least once in the west, right?? Who would you rather do it? ESPN 2 partnering with MLG would be the best shot we could give.
:))
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
October 19 2011 21:36 GMT
#903
Isn't this a bit like asking a basketball forum if they'd watch basketball on whatever TV channel? =/

But, yeah--I'd watch.
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
October 19 2011 21:38 GMT
#904
However if it fails then whatever chance it might have in the future has this to look down on
GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
October 19 2011 21:40 GMT
#905
On October 20 2011 06:38 NoobieOne wrote:
However if it fails then whatever chance it might have in the future has this to look down on



.. and what does the future hold that is more promising compared to attempting this now???
:))
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
October 19 2011 21:41 GMT
#906
On October 20 2011 06:34 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:
i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it.
GO FOR IT !
inb4 massive success


I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me.


and the world will fall into darkness destroying esports as we know it as the coming apocalypse comes just to kick us in the nuts. Dude you are out of your mind lol ESPN is probably one of if not the best stations to handle something like this. You see what they did with poker? Try going to a casino and watching people play, its possibly one of the most boring things ever if you are not playing. But ESPN with card cameras and what not made poker what it is today online and off. And if it doesnt work on ESPN then there was probably no chance it would ever work anyways. Not like you can make a gaming channel for Sc2. The idea behind this is to attract a bigger audience. If you were to put it on a gaming channel on TV all you would be doing is moving the people who watch streams to watching it on TV without an increase in viewers. Think before you post negative thoughts or just make outlandish comments bout loom and doom.
JD, need I say more? :D
nucleo
Profile Joined February 2011
292 Posts
October 19 2011 21:42 GMT
#907
On October 14 2011 19:33 CHOMPMannER wrote:
no thanks I watch real sports on espn.

Internet is for e-sports.

Maybe show some big tournaments on G4

like poker?
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 21:51:31
October 19 2011 21:51 GMT
#908
They've shown Scrabble on ESPN before... the bar isn't set terribly high. I'm wondering if a highlight show might be easier to sell than live programming though.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 19 2011 22:20 GMT
#909
On October 20 2011 06:34 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:
i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it.
GO FOR IT !
inb4 massive success


I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me.

Not only TV, but if it fails other sponsors will look at how bad it failed and not support e-sports. Or current sponsors might pull out. They have one shot, and they gotta do it right.. I dunno if were ready yet. Yet.
Jaedong.
Zinroc
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 07:10:06
October 30 2011 07:07 GMT
#910
Unless a TV network comes begging with a proposal they have been working on for a long time for putting SC2 on TV I don't think its worth it to do because if they treat it like a freak sideshow it won't do anything for Esports.

Pretty much look at the explosion of the UFC and how long they are holding out for the perfect network deal.
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
October 30 2011 07:15 GMT
#911
I sent them an email saying that they should have SC2 on their network. Its a small thing but I hope it helps.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
October 30 2011 07:23 GMT
#912
On October 30 2011 16:07 Zinroc wrote:
Unless a TV network comes begging with a proposal they have been working on for a long time for putting SC2 on TV I don't think its worth it to do because if they treat it like a freak sideshow it won't do anything for Esports.

Pretty much look at the explosion of the UFC and how long they are holding out for the perfect network deal.


What? The UFC didn't hold out for a perfect TV deal. They were still operating in the red and looking for a way to break into the mainstream when they came up with the idea for The Ultimate Fighter reality series, which they sold to Spike for pretty cheap. That led to more cooperation with Spike and eventually live events. It was a good deal for both parties in the end, the UFC benefited tremendously from the exposure, but the UFC never "held out" for a perfect deal.
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LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
October 30 2011 07:26 GMT
#913
To be honest... I watch sc2 on my computer. It's way more convenient than watching on tv.... if they stream on espn.com then i wouldn't care at all but if they only stream over TV then i'm probably not going to watch it
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
October 30 2011 07:27 GMT
#914
I say we revive TechTV and put BW/SC2 on that channel. It would be fun to see SC on ESPN, even if it was ESPN 6 the Ocho. Not sure the best way to go about the format and production, but they should start small and work their way up. Last thing you want is to invest a lot of money off the bat and get a negative return. Better to start small and make a small profit and build the base from there.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
October 30 2011 07:30 GMT
#915
On October 30 2011 16:26 LXR wrote:
To be honest... I watch sc2 on my computer. It's way more convenient than watching on tv.... if they stream on espn.com then i wouldn't care at all but if they only stream over TV then i'm probably not going to watch it


You telling me you would rather watch SC on your computer which most likely is under 28' and is probably not 1080P HD or better. Sure, I usually watch the games on the couch or my bed with my laptop, but laptops have an even worse screen size than desktops and running HDMI to the TV is one more step than if ESPN took up the mantle for me. :p

Would be cool if they had casters for ESPN Radio also. Wouldn't mind listening to play-by-play on my way home or going on a trip somewhere.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
T3tra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
October 30 2011 07:34 GMT
#916
I voted yes originally, but after hearing djWHEAT's argument against it and having mediums like Twitch.TV simply growing to replace the need for ESPN, I'd change my vote to "no" if I could.
I need this place like I need a shotgun blast to the face.
North2
Profile Joined January 2011
134 Posts
October 30 2011 07:37 GMT
#917
Putting it immediately in a mainstream channel like ESPN sounds like a really bad idea. For all the traffic that we can generate, there's probably going to be more that'll be lost be because there's a lot of people that don't want to watch it.

If you start with a smaller TV station, there's almost no doubt that we will be able to give more traffic than they can lose. That's very solid incentive for the TV station to put SC2 up in the future. Even if it fails, it won't be monumental to the point where nobody will want to try it again.

I just don't see any benefit whatsoever to start with ESPN.
www.twitch.tv/rnorth2
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
October 30 2011 07:38 GMT
#918
Any new word on this? Is this actually happening?
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
October 30 2011 07:39 GMT
#919
On October 20 2011 06:42 nucleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 19:33 CHOMPMannER wrote:
no thanks I watch real sports on espn.

Internet is for e-sports.

Maybe show some big tournaments on G4

like poker?


Don't forget the spelling bee.

That is on ESPN.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
October 30 2011 08:43 GMT
#920
On October 20 2011 06:40 GumThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 06:38 NoobieOne wrote:
However if it fails then whatever chance it might have in the future has this to look down on



.. and what does the future hold that is more promising compared to attempting this now???

It's a question of timing. If the scene isn't big or interesting enough to attract viewers putting it on TV would fail, but if you wait some more time for the scene to naturally grow and only then put it on TV, then maybe it could survive.
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