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On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it. GO FOR IT !  inb4 massive success
I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me.
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On October 20 2011 06:34 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it. GO FOR IT !  inb4 massive success I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me.
Well it will either A) Never be on TV or B) Never be on TV AGAIN
So it's worth a shot for it to be on TV at least once in the west, right?? Who would you rather do it? ESPN 2 partnering with MLG would be the best shot we could give.
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Isn't this a bit like asking a basketball forum if they'd watch basketball on whatever TV channel? =/
But, yeah--I'd watch.
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However if it fails then whatever chance it might have in the future has this to look down on
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On October 20 2011 06:38 NoobieOne wrote: However if it fails then whatever chance it might have in the future has this to look down on
.. and what does the future hold that is more promising compared to attempting this now???
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On October 20 2011 06:34 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it. GO FOR IT !  inb4 massive success I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me.
and the world will fall into darkness destroying esports as we know it as the coming apocalypse comes just to kick us in the nuts. Dude you are out of your mind lol ESPN is probably one of if not the best stations to handle something like this. You see what they did with poker? Try going to a casino and watching people play, its possibly one of the most boring things ever if you are not playing. But ESPN with card cameras and what not made poker what it is today online and off. And if it doesnt work on ESPN then there was probably no chance it would ever work anyways. Not like you can make a gaming channel for Sc2. The idea behind this is to attract a bigger audience. If you were to put it on a gaming channel on TV all you would be doing is moving the people who watch streams to watching it on TV without an increase in viewers. Think before you post negative thoughts or just make outlandish comments bout loom and doom.
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On October 14 2011 19:33 CHOMPMannER wrote: no thanks I watch real sports on espn.
Internet is for e-sports.
Maybe show some big tournaments on G4 like poker?
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They've shown Scrabble on ESPN before... the bar isn't set terribly high. I'm wondering if a highlight show might be easier to sell than live programming though.
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On October 20 2011 06:34 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 05:35 Reptilia wrote:i don't know what could go terribly wrong to not try it. GO FOR IT !  inb4 massive success I think it can go terribly terribly wrong. For example, no one watches it and the feedback is largely negative from the general audience. ESPN cancels it after a few weeks and esports will never be on TV again. That seems bad to me. Not only TV, but if it fails other sponsors will look at how bad it failed and not support e-sports. Or current sponsors might pull out. They have one shot, and they gotta do it right.. I dunno if were ready yet. Yet.
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Unless a TV network comes begging with a proposal they have been working on for a long time for putting SC2 on TV I don't think its worth it to do because if they treat it like a freak sideshow it won't do anything for Esports.
Pretty much look at the explosion of the UFC and how long they are holding out for the perfect network deal.
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I sent them an email saying that they should have SC2 on their network. Its a small thing but I hope it helps.
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On October 30 2011 16:07 Zinroc wrote: Unless a TV network comes begging with a proposal they have been working on for a long time for putting SC2 on TV I don't think its worth it to do because if they treat it like a freak sideshow it won't do anything for Esports.
Pretty much look at the explosion of the UFC and how long they are holding out for the perfect network deal.
What? The UFC didn't hold out for a perfect TV deal. They were still operating in the red and looking for a way to break into the mainstream when they came up with the idea for The Ultimate Fighter reality series, which they sold to Spike for pretty cheap. That led to more cooperation with Spike and eventually live events. It was a good deal for both parties in the end, the UFC benefited tremendously from the exposure, but the UFC never "held out" for a perfect deal.
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To be honest... I watch sc2 on my computer. It's way more convenient than watching on tv.... if they stream on espn.com then i wouldn't care at all but if they only stream over TV then i'm probably not going to watch it
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I say we revive TechTV and put BW/SC2 on that channel. It would be fun to see SC on ESPN, even if it was ESPN 6 the Ocho. Not sure the best way to go about the format and production, but they should start small and work their way up. Last thing you want is to invest a lot of money off the bat and get a negative return. Better to start small and make a small profit and build the base from there.
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On October 30 2011 16:26 LXR wrote: To be honest... I watch sc2 on my computer. It's way more convenient than watching on tv.... if they stream on espn.com then i wouldn't care at all but if they only stream over TV then i'm probably not going to watch it
You telling me you would rather watch SC on your computer which most likely is under 28' and is probably not 1080P HD or better. Sure, I usually watch the games on the couch or my bed with my laptop, but laptops have an even worse screen size than desktops and running HDMI to the TV is one more step than if ESPN took up the mantle for me. :p
Would be cool if they had casters for ESPN Radio also. Wouldn't mind listening to play-by-play on my way home or going on a trip somewhere.
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I voted yes originally, but after hearing djWHEAT's argument against it and having mediums like Twitch.TV simply growing to replace the need for ESPN, I'd change my vote to "no" if I could.
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Putting it immediately in a mainstream channel like ESPN sounds like a really bad idea. For all the traffic that we can generate, there's probably going to be more that'll be lost be because there's a lot of people that don't want to watch it.
If you start with a smaller TV station, there's almost no doubt that we will be able to give more traffic than they can lose. That's very solid incentive for the TV station to put SC2 up in the future. Even if it fails, it won't be monumental to the point where nobody will want to try it again.
I just don't see any benefit whatsoever to start with ESPN.
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Any new word on this? Is this actually happening?
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On October 20 2011 06:42 nucleo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 19:33 CHOMPMannER wrote: no thanks I watch real sports on espn.
Internet is for e-sports.
Maybe show some big tournaments on G4 like poker?
Don't forget the spelling bee.
That is on ESPN.
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On October 20 2011 06:40 GumThief wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 06:38 NoobieOne wrote: However if it fails then whatever chance it might have in the future has this to look down on .. and what does the future hold that is more promising compared to attempting this now??? It's a question of timing. If the scene isn't big or interesting enough to attract viewers putting it on TV would fail, but if you wait some more time for the scene to naturally grow and only then put it on TV, then maybe it could survive.
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