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supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
October 03 2011 08:56 GMT
#1061
On September 30 2011 06:23 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 05:34 zerious wrote:
Forgg's style will lead to a lot of ugly games, so you probably won't see the those type of 'perfect' games you'd see from MVP. He wins a lot of ladder games with that style, but when he comes plays in the GSL that style won't cut it.


ex-BW pro players will not have any problem keeping up with the best regarding macro.. heck even WC3 players are doing just fine in that department.. SC2 requires first game sense and good decision making and second macro/micro skills.. Forgg's game sense of opponent weaknesses had almost no equal in BW. He'll be a mighty force in SC2.. heck, even a pretty mediocre ex-BW player like MC became so dominant in SC2 using this aggressive style, imagine a much more refined version of MC who uses terran.. scary I'd say.

So forgg is the julyzerg/mc strangling terrran? cool. Where are people getting his replays from? O.O.
Turn it Up
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 03 2011 09:03 GMT
#1062
On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.


It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument


Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose.

Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.



theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2.

and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
October 03 2011 09:08 GMT
#1063
On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.


It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument


Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose.

Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.


I know this is offtopic, but oGs under-performing? TOP got to the finals last season....
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Trukk
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
October 03 2011 09:38 GMT
#1064
On October 03 2011 18:08 MonkSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.


It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument


Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose.

Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.


I know this is offtopic, but oGs under-performing? TOP got to the finals last season....

Look at oGs team results on liquipedia for the latest GSL. I don't want to post a spoiler (don't know how anyways) but it ain't pretty.
xiaominn
Profile Joined October 2011
United States5 Posts
October 03 2011 13:46 GMT
#1065
--- Nuked ---
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 13:57:40
October 03 2011 13:51 GMT
#1066

^ Banned. Cya!
Useless wet fish.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 03 2011 13:57 GMT
#1067
Don't quote adbots, ffs.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
October 03 2011 14:01 GMT
#1068
On October 03 2011 17:56 supdubdup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 06:23 s4life wrote:
On September 30 2011 05:34 zerious wrote:
Forgg's style will lead to a lot of ugly games, so you probably won't see the those type of 'perfect' games you'd see from MVP. He wins a lot of ladder games with that style, but when he comes plays in the GSL that style won't cut it.


ex-BW pro players will not have any problem keeping up with the best regarding macro.. heck even WC3 players are doing just fine in that department.. SC2 requires first game sense and good decision making and second macro/micro skills.. Forgg's game sense of opponent weaknesses had almost no equal in BW. He'll be a mighty force in SC2.. heck, even a pretty mediocre ex-BW player like MC became so dominant in SC2 using this aggressive style, imagine a much more refined version of MC who uses terran.. scary I'd say.

So forgg is the julyzerg/mc strangling terrran? cool. Where are people getting his replays from? O.O.


He played many years as a BW pro son, go check them out yourself anywhere,,,
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
October 03 2011 17:13 GMT
#1069
There is a mistake in forgg's sc2 liquipedia
"Joined Old Generations on March 2009"
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
October 03 2011 17:19 GMT
#1070
i don't know who the guy is, but judging the crowd's reaction, must be a big name from BW. NICE
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
October 03 2011 18:17 GMT
#1071
i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
October 03 2011 21:01 GMT
#1072
On October 04 2011 03:17 Manimal_pro wrote:
i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible


ex-BW pros are crushing sc2 already. I can't believe you didn't know MC, MVP, Nestea, MKP, MMA, Fruitdealer, Bomber and others not named Moon and Lynx played BW for a living...
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
October 03 2011 21:03 GMT
#1073
On October 04 2011 06:01 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 03:17 Manimal_pro wrote:
i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible


ex-BW pros are crushing sc2 already. I can't believe you didn't know MC, MVP, Nestea, MKP, MMA, Fruitdealer, Bomber and others not named Moon and Lynx played BW for a living...

im pretty sure moon and lyn played WC3 heh
but your point still stands.
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
ePAttack
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
October 03 2011 21:14 GMT
#1074
He's coming to SC2?
I quit.

gg
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 03 2011 21:17 GMT
#1075
On October 03 2011 18:03 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.


It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument


Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose.

Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.



theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2.

and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL

Funny thing; he probally will never make as much money as his initial contract on KT or after he won the MSL.
I doubt he iwll be succesful enough, but will be sooo interesting to see fOrGG at it.
Wonder if Hero remembers him, they were both at Oz..
In the woods, there lurks..
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 03 2011 21:24 GMT
#1076
On October 04 2011 06:17 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 18:03 turdburgler wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.


It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument


Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose.

Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.



theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2.

and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL

Funny thing; he probally will never make as much money as his initial contract on KT or after he won the MSL.
I doubt he iwll be succesful enough, but will be sooo interesting to see fOrGG at it.
Wonder if Hero remembers him, they were both at Oz..


Well who knows... if he can get a few more bucks off the skills he spent so long developing then all power to him... And plus SC2 seems to be growing, especially foreign scene
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
bobdole
Profile Joined September 2010
26 Posts
October 03 2011 21:31 GMT
#1077
On October 03 2011 17:54 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 17:44 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On October 03 2011 11:52 Sawamura wrote:
On October 03 2011 03:14 Kiyo. wrote:
Why are you guys trying to compare the metagame of a 13 year old game to a 1 year old game? Just stop.

Keep this thread on topic please.


It's inevitable sc2 inherited the starcraft name, what do you expect us to compare red alert 3 ?


Wouldn't it be more fair to compare Brood War's metagame at one year, versus SC2's metagame at one year. Especially considering SC2 is different enough that while it inherited the name, it definitely did not inherit the meta-game.

Different units, different fundamental A.I. control, different maps, different players, different time.

For better or worse, they will never be the same.


No that wouldn't be fair. You have to compare it in different periods. For example how was sc2 when it was mainly 1 base play compared to the same period in sc bw. I would say if the development cycle of bw we would be in like what? 2005? The period where macro really starts to become the best option above the rest.

and that's not what metagame means. metagame

Metagame can also mean the tactics and strategies players use at the highest level at a particular point in the game's life. You can google "current metagame" for some examples.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 21:33:24
October 03 2011 21:32 GMT
#1078
On October 04 2011 06:03 Reptilia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 06:01 s4life wrote:
On October 04 2011 03:17 Manimal_pro wrote:
i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible


ex-BW pros are crushing sc2 already. I can't believe you didn't know MC, MVP, Nestea, MKP, MMA, Fruitdealer, Bomber and others not named Moon and Lynx played BW for a living...

im pretty sure moon and lyn played WC3 heh
but your point still stands.


Read again son... never implied they played BW
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 03 2011 21:33 GMT
#1079
On October 04 2011 06:24 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 06:17 Iplaythings wrote:
On October 03 2011 18:03 turdburgler wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.


It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument


Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose.

Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.



theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2.

and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL

Funny thing; he probally will never make as much money as his initial contract on KT or after he won the MSL.
I doubt he iwll be succesful enough, but will be sooo interesting to see fOrGG at it.
Wonder if Hero remembers him, they were both at Oz..


Well who knows... if he can get a few more bucks off the skills he spent so long developing then all power to him... And plus SC2 seems to be growing, especially foreign scene

as it is right now, the korean sc2 teams cant afford the high salaried players as it is, eventually though... eventually...
In the woods, there lurks..
Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
October 03 2011 21:36 GMT
#1080
He is playing SC2 a long time now. He played against HuK some month ago, so another "not good enogh anymore for BW" Pro.
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