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On September 30 2011 06:23 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 05:34 zerious wrote:
Forgg's style will lead to a lot of ugly games, so you probably won't see the those type of 'perfect' games you'd see from MVP. He wins a lot of ladder games with that style, but when he comes plays in the GSL that style won't cut it. ex-BW pro players will not have any problem keeping up with the best regarding macro.. heck even WC3 players are doing just fine in that department.. SC2 requires first game sense and good decision making and second macro/micro skills.. Forgg's game sense of opponent weaknesses had almost no equal in BW. He'll be a mighty force in SC2.. heck, even a pretty mediocre ex-BW player like MC became so dominant in SC2 using this aggressive style, imagine a much more refined version of MC who uses terran.. scary I'd say.
So forgg is the julyzerg/mc strangling terrran? cool. Where are people getting his replays from? O.O.
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On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.
It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose. Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.
theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2.
and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL
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On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.
It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose. Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately.
I know this is offtopic, but oGs under-performing? TOP got to the finals last season....
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On October 03 2011 18:08 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.
It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose. Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately. I know this is offtopic, but oGs under-performing? TOP got to the finals last season....
Look at oGs team results on liquipedia for the latest GSL. I don't want to post a spoiler (don't know how anyways) but it ain't pretty.
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On October 03 2011 17:56 supdubdup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 06:23 s4life wrote:On September 30 2011 05:34 zerious wrote:
Forgg's style will lead to a lot of ugly games, so you probably won't see the those type of 'perfect' games you'd see from MVP. He wins a lot of ladder games with that style, but when he comes plays in the GSL that style won't cut it. ex-BW pro players will not have any problem keeping up with the best regarding macro.. heck even WC3 players are doing just fine in that department.. SC2 requires first game sense and good decision making and second macro/micro skills.. Forgg's game sense of opponent weaknesses had almost no equal in BW. He'll be a mighty force in SC2.. heck, even a pretty mediocre ex-BW player like MC became so dominant in SC2 using this aggressive style, imagine a much more refined version of MC who uses terran.. scary I'd say. So forgg is the julyzerg/mc strangling terrran? cool. Where are people getting his replays from? O.O.
He played many years as a BW pro son, go check them out yourself anywhere,,,
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There is a mistake in forgg's sc2 liquipedia
"Joined Old Generations on March 2009"
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i don't know who the guy is, but judging the crowd's reaction, must be a big name from BW. NICE
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i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible
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On October 04 2011 03:17 Manimal_pro wrote:
i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible
ex-BW pros are crushing sc2 already. I can't believe you didn't know MC, MVP, Nestea, MKP, MMA, Fruitdealer, Bomber and others not named Moon and Lynx played BW for a living...
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On October 04 2011 06:01 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:17 Manimal_pro wrote:
i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible ex-BW pros are crushing sc2 already. I can't believe you didn't know MC, MVP, Nestea, MKP, MMA, Fruitdealer, Bomber and others not named Moon and Lynx played BW for a living...
im pretty sure moon and lyn played WC3 heh
but your point still stands.
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He's coming to SC2?
I quit.
gg
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On October 03 2011 18:03 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.
It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose. Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately. theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2. and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL
Funny thing; he probally will never make as much money as his initial contract on KT or after he won the MSL.
I doubt he iwll be succesful enough, but will be sooo interesting to see fOrGG at it.
Wonder if Hero remembers him, they were both at Oz..
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On October 04 2011 06:17 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 18:03 turdburgler wrote:On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.
It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose. Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately. theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2. and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL Funny thing; he probally will never make as much money as his initial contract on KT or after he won the MSL. I doubt he iwll be succesful enough, but will be sooo interesting to see fOrGG at it. Wonder if Hero remembers him, they were both at Oz..
Well who knows... if he can get a few more bucks off the skills he spent so long developing then all power to him... And plus SC2 seems to be growing, especially foreign scene
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On October 03 2011 17:54 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 17:44 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:On October 03 2011 11:52 Sawamura wrote:On October 03 2011 03:14 Kiyo. wrote:
Why are you guys trying to compare the metagame of a 13 year old game to a 1 year old game? Just stop.
Keep this thread on topic please. It's inevitable sc2 inherited the starcraft name, what do you expect us to compare red alert 3 ? Wouldn't it be more fair to compare Brood War's metagame at one year, versus SC2's metagame at one year. Especially considering SC2 is different enough that while it inherited the name, it definitely did not inherit the meta-game. Different units, different fundamental A.I. control, different maps, different players, different time. For better or worse, they will never be the same. No that wouldn't be fair. You have to compare it in different periods. For example how was sc2 when it was mainly 1 base play compared to the same period in sc bw. I would say if the development cycle of bw we would be in like what? 2005? The period where macro really starts to become the best option above the rest. and that's not what metagame means. metagame
Metagame can also mean the tactics and strategies players use at the highest level at a particular point in the game's life. You can google "current metagame" for some examples.
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On October 04 2011 06:03 Reptilia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 06:01 s4life wrote:On October 04 2011 03:17 Manimal_pro wrote:
i believe he won't be such a big hit, thus ending the speculations that if actual bw pros switch over they will crush sc2.... this just isn't possible ex-BW pros are crushing sc2 already. I can't believe you didn't know MC, MVP, Nestea, MKP, MMA, Fruitdealer, Bomber and others not named Moon and Lynx played BW for a living... im pretty sure moon and lyn played WC3 heh but your point still stands.
Read again son... never implied they played BW
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On October 04 2011 06:24 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 06:17 Iplaythings wrote:On October 03 2011 18:03 turdburgler wrote:On October 03 2011 04:25 Postman wrote:On October 03 2011 04:18 dark14cs wrote:On October 03 2011 04:11 Chronald wrote:
This thread isn't about SC:BW vs SC2, stay on topic plz.
It can be whatever the conversation leads to. Trying to limit a thread to its title is as impossible as stopping gravity from crushing your argument Which is why when Live Report tournament threads devolve into balance arguments the mods put up notes congratulating posters for having steered the thread away from it's original purpose. Edit: Forgot to say that I think this could be what gives oGs a swift kick in the rear. The whole team seems to be under-performing lately. theres a difference between saying. broodwar was more about x, but forgg was always known for his y, which is actually important in sc2, so for him sc2 vs bw, he will be better at sc2. and then, LOL BROODWAR IS DEAD SO HE CHANGED OVER FOR MONEY LOL Funny thing; he probally will never make as much money as his initial contract on KT or after he won the MSL. I doubt he iwll be succesful enough, but will be sooo interesting to see fOrGG at it. Wonder if Hero remembers him, they were both at Oz.. Well who knows... if he can get a few more bucks off the skills he spent so long developing then all power to him... And plus SC2 seems to be growing, especially foreign scene
as it is right now, the korean sc2 teams cant afford the high salaried players as it is, eventually though... eventually...
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He is playing SC2 a long time now. He played against HuK some month ago, so another "not good enogh anymore for BW" Pro.
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