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On September 27 2011 11:16 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 10:56 CrimsonReign wrote:you must not know much about attero. Hes the Terran Killer... He made Kas look like a sissy in a couple online tournaments...he 2-0d Jinro... Didn't have too much problem taking out Spades... Saying a group of terrans would be hard for Attero sort of makes me laugh. Seems like free win to me. With new change to APM I wonder if sjow will ever hit past 40 now? KiLLeR is a zerg known for his excellent ZvP, and Protoss is currently universally recognized as the weakest race. The other player in his group is a world class terran SjoW, who is admittedly beatable for Attero, but definitely favored. I qualified for this tournament by beating Attero, so I'd say I know what I'm talking about. His PvT can be amazing, but it is inconsistent. When he is on his game he is extremely scary.
Except Attero's beaten Killer several times before.
His PvT is consistent, he's beaten you as well lol. Beating someone at one point in time doesn't mean they're inconsistent, he's beaten all the Terrans 4-1 (except for Spades) on The "V". It is, literally, his best match-up.
His worst MU I would say is Zerg and then maybe Protoss due to the new patch, but they're improving rather well.
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I don't understand why this is on the same weekend as MLG. MLG has the better players and more of them, better casters, plus barcraft events that are already planned all across the globe. They really couldn't have picked a worse weekend.
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My picks:
Group A:
Korean
Group B:
Korean
Group C:
Mana, unless the Korean is good
Group D:
Korean
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Pokebunny, the Hometown hero.
FIGHTING.
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Why is there only one Zerg? Is that all that qualified? Hopefully some of the invites will be Zerg.
If not, it makes it a particularly boring tournament for me. PvP is meh, and PvT has just been infuriating for me lately.
Good luck to Attero.
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On September 27 2011 13:04 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 11:16 Pokebunny wrote:On September 27 2011 10:56 CrimsonReign wrote:you must not know much about attero. Hes the Terran Killer... He made Kas look like a sissy in a couple online tournaments...he 2-0d Jinro... Didn't have too much problem taking out Spades... Saying a group of terrans would be hard for Attero sort of makes me laugh. Seems like free win to me. With new change to APM I wonder if sjow will ever hit past 40 now? KiLLeR is a zerg known for his excellent ZvP, and Protoss is currently universally recognized as the weakest race. The other player in his group is a world class terran SjoW, who is admittedly beatable for Attero, but definitely favored. I qualified for this tournament by beating Attero, so I'd say I know what I'm talking about. His PvT can be amazing, but it is inconsistent. When he is on his game he is extremely scary. Except Attero's beaten Killer several times before. His PvT is consistent, he's beaten you as well lol. Beating someone at one point in time doesn't mean they're inconsistent, he's beaten all the Terrans 4-1 (except for Spades) on The "V". It is, literally, his best match-up. His worst MU I would say is Zerg and then maybe Protoss due to the new patch, but they're improving rather well.
I never claimed to be better than Attero, as I said, he's inconsistent - losing to me proves that, simply put. The fact is that SjoW is the clear favorite over him and is obviously on another level than the terrans he has beaten in showmatches, along with SjoW having an extremely strong history at live events. Sure he's beaten Killer, but to consider him the favorite when he has imbalance against as well as his worst matchup vs Killer's best is simply silly. I'm not saying he's bad nor am I saying he has no chance.
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oh man great groups. glad to see pokebunny!
I was at this last year but I was still a somewhat new fan and didn't know all the players. can't wait for this year.
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1 zerg? I dont even understand tournys without equal amouts of races, 20 terrans in GSL code S, guess whos not watching that or this
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How many of these players can compete with top tier koreans though? Group D is gonna get raped by whoever that korean is imo
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Hmmm lots of starcraft 2 to watch  but i dunno how many viewers IEM can pull from MLG :S
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can not wait to find out who the koreans are for this, i might just make the short trip into the city to see this
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gief atleast 3 Z invites
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Hmm, not the strongest competition though still good players all around. My money is on one of the koreans or if a foreigner, then maybe mana, qxc or strelok. It would be cool to see pokebunny do well also
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The only inconsistencies I have is when I'm tired. And if you followed me closely you'd know that a good number of my tournament losses have been to koreans, which isn't inconsistent at all. As long as I am awake, I definitely won't lose to any Terran. Every player has a chance and I'm sure everyone will try to bring their A-game. Best of luck to all players I'm sure it'll be a fun event regardless of who wins and loses.
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On September 27 2011 13:17 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 13:04 Torte de Lini wrote:On September 27 2011 11:16 Pokebunny wrote:On September 27 2011 10:56 CrimsonReign wrote:you must not know much about attero. Hes the Terran Killer... He made Kas look like a sissy in a couple online tournaments...he 2-0d Jinro... Didn't have too much problem taking out Spades... Saying a group of terrans would be hard for Attero sort of makes me laugh. Seems like free win to me. With new change to APM I wonder if sjow will ever hit past 40 now? KiLLeR is a zerg known for his excellent ZvP, and Protoss is currently universally recognized as the weakest race. The other player in his group is a world class terran SjoW, who is admittedly beatable for Attero, but definitely favored. I qualified for this tournament by beating Attero, so I'd say I know what I'm talking about. His PvT can be amazing, but it is inconsistent. When he is on his game he is extremely scary. Except Attero's beaten Killer several times before. His PvT is consistent, he's beaten you as well lol. Beating someone at one point in time doesn't mean they're inconsistent, he's beaten all the Terrans 4-1 (except for Spades) on The "V". It is, literally, his best match-up. His worst MU I would say is Zerg and then maybe Protoss due to the new patch, but they're improving rather well. I never claimed to be better than Attero, as I said, he's inconsistent - losing to me proves that, simply put. The fact is that SjoW is the clear favorite over him and is obviously on another level than the terrans he has beaten in showmatches, along with SjoW having an extremely strong history at live events. Sure he's beaten Killer, but to consider him the favorite when he has imbalance against as well as his worst matchup vs Killer's best is simply silly. I'm not saying he's bad nor am I saying he has no chance.
What? No one's talking about if he's better than you or not.
Dropping a match against you means nothing. It doesn't mean inconsistency because it isn't a constant thing (meaning if he's done it once doesn't indicate inconsistency but rather other lurking factors that could dictate the loss, not necessarily the match-up itself).
No one is talking about favourites either nor reading further than what you're saying. We're just clarifying some misreadings you've stated.
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I would not mind at all if all they didn't invite any Korean terrans. I like it when we don't know the winner in advance.
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On September 27 2011 14:38 red4ce wrote:
I would not mind at all if all they didn't invite any Korean terrans. I like it when we don't know the winner in advance.
They are inviting more than one Korean so you'll still not know the winner in advance.
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wow. so little zerg. O.O
well gl to the players!
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