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Fix637
Profile Joined February 2011
United States256 Posts
September 22 2011 01:54 GMT
#141
Glad they sorted this out. It's good to see that they paid a lot of respect to the contracts and forced Stephano to pay a fine for his actions. This is something that's seen quite often with star athletes in regular sports, and I think it's a good precedent to set for eSports. Well done to both parties.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 22 2011 01:54 GMT
#142
The real loser here is the community. Will Mill send him to foreign events? Will he just sit and stew forever in some EU events?

Oh well. Stephano seems like he's only committed to 1 year playing SC2 and move on.

On September 22 2011 10:02 Dingobloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 09:56 theBizness wrote:
This probably spells the beginning of the end for Stephano. Considering Millenium's philosophy regarding how they want to develop esports internally within France, it's going to be tough for Stephano to take the next step. As I posted in the other thread, Col ends up on top anyway by getting Naniwa instead.


It was mentioned on live on three that coL had planned to contract both, negotiations take time, and signing naniwa was not a snap decision based on what happened with stephano


It would explain Naniwa's snarky post in the Stephano goes back to Mill thread haha.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
imEnex
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
September 22 2011 02:11 GMT
#143
Good, but wrong section dude!
Program yourself to Success
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
September 22 2011 02:12 GMT
#144
EG was the mediator and solved this drama? no way...
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cywait
Profile Joined December 2010
United States10 Posts
September 22 2011 02:13 GMT
#145
Glad this situation is resolved but I would love to know what the fine was. However, if that information was released it would give clues to how much the contract was for, so not releasing the amount seems appropriate.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
September 22 2011 02:15 GMT
#146
From the jason bass interview it sounds like stephano was ghost negotiating b/w himself and complexity, pretending to talk to mill about counter offers to raise the price complexity would go until he liked the number.
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tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
September 22 2011 02:18 GMT
#147
on what team is he now ?
Xaerkar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States230 Posts
September 22 2011 02:37 GMT
#148
As mentioned on SotG, I feel that Col really made a good decision here, by ensuring there was a penalty, thus adding value to the player contract. Hopefully eventually the SC2 player contract will actually have some worth, instead of people just throwing it around like it's paperweight.
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
September 22 2011 02:37 GMT
#149
Well good to see this situation resolved I suppose, its too bad though, I doubt we'll end up seeing Stephano in very many events outside of Europe.
TLUtv
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada18 Posts
September 22 2011 02:39 GMT
#150
He probably just had to reimburse complexity for a bit of labor and contract fee's, Probably not a super high amount, but I bet it was still a blow too his pocket book
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
September 22 2011 02:42 GMT
#151
Well, I guess Kespa 2.0 won't need to buy a tank, then.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
chrisgreg
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada61 Posts
September 22 2011 02:44 GMT
#152
EG wins in this process, mods rule!
Supporting Team EG and Team IM
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
September 22 2011 02:45 GMT
#153
Give peace a chance. I'm glad they settled this quickly.
Turn off the radio
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
September 22 2011 02:45 GMT
#154
How much was the fine out of curiosity? Is that even relevant or a slap on the wrist? I only saw speculation.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
September 22 2011 02:47 GMT
#155
EG involved in a dispute playing a role other than instigator....

well I guess I've seen everything. *shrug*

(goes off to die)
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
September 22 2011 02:47 GMT
#156
+Karma for EG. Glad it came to a peaceful end. eSports doesn't need any more drama.
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
sTsCompleted
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States380 Posts
September 22 2011 02:49 GMT
#157
So he's staying with Mill?

That was a weird situation, glad it's all over.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
September 22 2011 03:16 GMT
#158
Who comes out on top after all this drama?

EG...
blah blah blah...
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 22 2011 03:21 GMT
#159
EG and Col? Something is not right here.
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
September 22 2011 03:27 GMT
#160
EG knows how to handle the big dogs ;D
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