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theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
September 22 2011 00:56 GMT
#121
This probably spells the beginning of the end for Stephano. Considering Millenium's philosophy regarding how they want to develop esports internally within France, it's going to be tough for Stephano to take the next step. As I posted in the other thread, Col ends up on top anyway by getting Naniwa instead.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
September 22 2011 01:02 GMT
#122
On September 22 2011 09:56 theBizness wrote:
This probably spells the beginning of the end for Stephano. Considering Millenium's philosophy regarding how they want to develop esports internally within France, it's going to be tough for Stephano to take the next step. As I posted in the other thread, Col ends up on top anyway by getting Naniwa instead.


It was mentioned on live on three that coL had planned to contract both, negotiations take time, and signing naniwa was not a snap decision based on what happened with stephano
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
September 22 2011 01:02 GMT
#123
Mill should definitely help him out with the fines if not cover them completely.

I still think that Col is being a bit retarded by sueing Stephano, whilst disregarding other situations where their contracts were breached (destiny)
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
September 22 2011 01:05 GMT
#124
It good that it was settle w/o it getting out of hand and both agree on good terms. Unfortunately Stephano has to pay the prize for the thing he cause, it's his fault and he will be responsible for it. I really wish he had gone with complexity since he'll be stuck in France with Millennium. I'm not saying that its bad but Millennium want to expand only within its country while Col is willing to send their players in KOR to improve or other global tournaments ie MLG etc...
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
September 22 2011 01:07 GMT
#125
all I could think when I saw this was:

Complexity: You can have him Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Mill: But I want them Monday at 7:30 pm til 9:30 pm.
Complexity: Ok ummmm.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
September 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#126
On September 22 2011 10:02 CatNzHat wrote:
Mill should definitely help him out with the fines if not cover them completely.

I still think that Col is being a bit retarded by sueing Stephano, whilst disregarding other situations where their contracts were breached (destiny)


I feel like the destiny situation was more of a, he didn't feel like he'd fit in, we're not sure if he'd fit in kind of a situation. Less of a, he signed with us and then signed with another team the next day kind of a thing.

I feel like they're 2 100% different situations

i'm glad that they were able to get some kind of compensation from stephano after he accidentally orchestrated this whole debacle.
moose...indian
piknic
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada59 Posts
September 22 2011 01:13 GMT
#127
Best way for it to end given the circumstances, glad they had to pay.
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
September 22 2011 01:13 GMT
#128
What was EG role in this?
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
September 22 2011 01:16 GMT
#129
A dignified way to end an undignified situation, best case scenario resolution, good stuff.
Daniri
Profile Joined May 2007
387 Posts
September 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#130
On September 22 2011 10:13 mechavoc wrote:
What was EG role in this?



Lastly, compLexity and Millenium would also like to thank Alexander Garfield of Evil Geniuses for acting as the mediator of our discussions during this challenging time. His time and efforts avoided a clash that was most certainly headed for litigation, had a reasonable settlement not been reached.
"you guys are silly lol thats why i hate you people" berserkboar
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
September 22 2011 01:19 GMT
#131
Stephano missed a great opportunity here, he could have been sent to Korea to become way better than he is now.

I'm not surprised he got charged either.
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
September 22 2011 01:22 GMT
#132
Nice to see that matter resolved. Especially for the player.

But I would be really interested in a legal action just to see how the player contracts work.
Plus the discussion that Stephano is still underaged (not sure about this) and trans-continental law enforcements in eSports.
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
September 22 2011 01:26 GMT
#133
On September 22 2011 10:02 CatNzHat wrote:
Mill should definitely help him out with the fines if not cover them completely.

I still think that Col is being a bit retarded by sueing Stephano, whilst disregarding other situations where their contracts were breached (destiny)

destiny was different, destiny and col discussed the matter and came to an agreement that allowed destiny to leave, destiny didn't just leave col and sign with another team
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
BoBiNoU
Profile Joined March 2011
France181 Posts
September 22 2011 01:27 GMT
#134
On September 22 2011 08:16 youngminii wrote:
Sucks that Complexity comes out on the bottom end.


bottom end ?
no harm done to them and they get some extra money.

that could be worse...
go m00
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 22 2011 01:30 GMT
#135
This ended up as well as it could have for coL. They didn't want to force a player to play for them, but obviously they can't look soft. Stephano was punished for what he did and that's what should happen.

I wish people wouldn't blame his age, perhaps his maturity. There is no excuse for what he did. 18 is legally and mentally old enough to make decisions like this. I'm happy he was fined and this debacle is over.

EG managed to be involved in this as well ^^
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
September 22 2011 01:32 GMT
#136
hmmm I wanted Stephano to go to coL.. Him and Naniwa being my two favorite players.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Dirt McGirt
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand129 Posts
September 22 2011 01:34 GMT
#137
Sounds like a very reasonable outcome imo. If you consider that the vast majority of up and coming players are going to be young then setting clear expectations around contracts etc is a very good idea.

As with Destiny's scenario you've also got to take things on a case by case basis, sometimes simply parting ways is best for both parties. But in a situation where teams are being played off using false information there needs to be some consquences.

Sadly for Stephano he has a fine to pay and damage to his rep - it'll be interesting to see if he stays quiet or releases a statement.
I control Michael Jackson
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
September 22 2011 01:43 GMT
#138
On September 22 2011 08:12 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 08:09 zev318 wrote:
wording of that suggests stephano is paying the fines alone, which would be kinda funny.

If he is, that will be pretty backwards imo, but I'm guessing Col just says he is, because he's to them the one that caused the issue and therefor the one they penalize, but Mill *must* be paying it for him.

That doesn't sound even remotely backwards. He was choosing to exit out of his contract early with Mill to go to Col. but then had a change of heart. The bulk of this situation rests solely on his shoulders an should definatlly be made to pay it on hi own without any sort of help from his team. An if I were Mill I wouldn't help anyway because of the fact up until his change of heart he was quieting our team so no way in hell would I help him there because one has to deal w/ the consequences of their actions.
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
September 22 2011 01:44 GMT
#139
Glad this is over.

What i'd like to see now is a better process whereby players (especially younger ones like Stephano) are less likely to make these kinds of mistakes in future.

This whole thing has been really embarrassing to watch. and really craps on the 'pro' in 'progamer'.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
September 22 2011 01:51 GMT
#140
On September 22 2011 10:02 CatNzHat wrote:
Mill should definitely help him out with the fines if not cover them completely.

I still think that Col is being a bit retarded by sueing Stephano, whilst disregarding other situations where their contracts were breached (destiny)
Mill should in no way shape or form help him pay the fines. He was gonna leave their team for another till he changed his mind. He was the creator of it all an thusly should be for it all. As I said previously if I were Mill I wouldn't give the slightest bit of help to him at all. An um I'm thinking you're the one being a "bit retarded" for not realizing that there was no Breach of contract in regards to Destiny. Him an Col. came to an agreement an they released him from their contract with him. Get your facts straight man.
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
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