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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 11:09:14
September 04 2011 11:08 GMT
#101
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MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
September 04 2011 11:08 GMT
#102
I wonder if anyone is going to pick him up and have him represent their team by Blizzcon.
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 11:10:20
September 04 2011 11:08 GMT
#103
On September 04 2011 19:51 Consolidate wrote:
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On September 04 2011 19:47 Rorra wrote:
Good that this happened, I just hope another team doesn't pick him up based purely on "talent", the way major acts should be unnaceptible to sponsers.

Time for him to clean up his act, or fall off the scene, he was never amazing when it came to talent anyways. If he dissapears it's for the better, the scene would be better off without him.


And you're in the position to be making these judgments because?


The reality is everyone in this thread is making judgements, and commenting their opinion why would anyone not be entitled to do so, you single me out merely because you dissagree.

Im obviously somewhat biased because of the SEA Tournament incident.

Still its definately irritating to know that if that SEA tournament was european, korean, or maybe even NA tournament, there would have been far more consequences, with major almost certainly being banned from competing in some tournaments as a result.

But there was no consequences because half the people on tl didn't care or even applauded Major for it, because to them SEA is just trash anyways right? Really, what did Major get from that at the time, a harsh talking to from Artosis? seriously.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
September 04 2011 11:09 GMT
#104
On September 04 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well, being the best LA player and winning the blizzcon qualifier i would say is a way of showing that he has earned it.


Fenix > Major. Any day or night.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
September 04 2011 11:09 GMT
#105
On September 04 2011 20:00 Ponyo wrote:
Honestly before reading, I had bias towards Major and im like haha got kicked. But seriously teams gotta go through with something when they say they will. Seems like SJG was holding him back if anything, but thats just from the small text that I've read.

Holding him back? Don't get me wrong, he's a pretty decent player, but he's not even their top player. Also his reputation will surely make getting into another team difficult, if possible. I don't really see any other team picking him up, SJG was probably his last stop for a while at 'big' teams.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
September 04 2011 11:09 GMT
#106
On September 04 2011 20:06 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well, being the best LA player and winning the blizzcon qualifier i would say is a way of showing that he has earned it.


Why don't you and everyone else around here who thinks that he is "entitled" to a free ticket to Korea go ahead and buy him one then?

Seriously, some of you act as if SixJax were "obliged" to finance him a Korea-trip.

most other top teams are sending their best players to korea to train, why wouldnt Sixjax be interested in investing in the skill development of their players? He is their best player as well he certainly has deserved a shot at code A. Sixjax just seems to be cheaping out a bit, they didnt even send any of their players to the last MLG , and artosis was even there , would have been a good opportunity for the players to meet with their coach.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
pryde089
Profile Joined August 2011
England7 Posts
September 04 2011 11:09 GMT
#107
The impression I got is that he's just a needy child shouting demands, and when he doesn't get what he wants he pulls a paddy.

I dread to think of how a different team is going to handle his attitude - maybe in a few years time he'll chill a bit.
fly you fools ;p - Gandalf
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 04 2011 11:11 GMT
#108
Whether you like majOr or not, sixjax failed to fulfill the promise to send him to Korea. They have parted ways. End of story.

I wish major luck on finding a new team and going to Korea.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 11:12:05
September 04 2011 11:11 GMT
#109
On September 04 2011 20:06 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well im pretty sure he joined the team under the pretence that he would be sent to korea eventually. Although i dont agree with his actions i can understand where he is coming from, Sixjax keeps saying they are about to secure a deal and it keeps falling through so Major takes the initiative to find a team to let him stay at their training house and Sixjax still says no, all he needed was a plain ride , food and board would have been provided by NSHS.

If major wasnt so young he should have done the smart thing and tried to make sure he got something in his contract saying that they would send him to korea in the coming months, regardless though he breached his contract with a few (minor id say) misconducts so they have every right to deny him the requests (even if they promised it to him) and give him the boot.


Maybe Artosis knows something about NSHS that Major doesn't.

Maybe Sixjax knows that there are other teams that would be wiling partners, but they are doing they're due diligence and trying to create a partnership with the best team possible.

Maybe they are trying to find room and board not just for one selfish person, but their whole team.

There's possibly a lot of good reasons why Sixjax is taking "so long" to form a complex business deal with a foreign team. Of course, I've pretty sure it's been less than six months.




Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 04 2011 11:11 GMT
#110
On September 04 2011 20:08 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:06 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well, being the best LA player and winning the blizzcon qualifier i would say is a way of showing that he has earned it.


Why don't you and everyone else around here who thinks that he is "entitled" to a free ticket to Korea go ahead and buy him one then?

Seriously, some of you act as if SixJax were "obliged" to finance him a Korea-trip.

So passive aggressive. Sixjax promised him a ticket when he joined, of course he's supposed to get one, but he didn't, so he left.


If I say to a team I plan on going to Korea to improve and they say we'll get you a ticket to Korea, I think it's safe to say I'd expect a ticket to Korea.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
September 04 2011 11:12 GMT
#111
On September 04 2011 20:11 Probe1 wrote:
Whether you like majOr or not, sixjax failed to fulfill the promise to send him to Korea. They have parted ways. End of story.

I wish major luck on finding a new team and going to Korea.


Well, hard to say was there any official promises made or not when we haven't heard SixJax's side of it.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
September 04 2011 11:12 GMT
#112
On September 04 2011 20:08 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:06 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well, being the best LA player and winning the blizzcon qualifier i would say is a way of showing that he has earned it.


Why don't you and everyone else around here who thinks that he is "entitled" to a free ticket to Korea go ahead and buy him one then?

Seriously, some of you act as if SixJax were "obliged" to finance him a Korea-trip.

So passive aggressive. Sixjax promised him a ticket when he joined, of course he's supposed to get one, but he didn't, so he left.

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:06 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well, being the best LA player and winning the blizzcon qualifier i would say is a way of showing that he has earned it.


I saved my company $100,000 last month. Where's my trip to Korea?



Did your employer promise you a ticket for your work?


Did sixjax?
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 04 2011 11:13 GMT
#113
On September 04 2011 20:11 Probe1 wrote:
Whether you like majOr or not, sixjax failed to fulfill the promise to send him to Korea. They have parted ways. End of story.

I wish major luck on finding a new team and going to Korea.


The problem here is that Major says there was a promise, but I would have thought that if it was that important to him they would have contracted it. This is a business and whether or not it was "promised", which is heresay at this point, it appears to not have been contracted. If Korea was his concern from the start, then he should have demanded that when negotiating. Apart from what is in the contract, he cannot expect much more and they have no obligation to give much more.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 11:15:20
September 04 2011 11:13 GMT
#114
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antikk555
Profile Joined March 2011
85 Posts
September 04 2011 11:13 GMT
#115
IdrA gets paid the big bucks 50% based on the fact that hes a dick to everyone in a very public fashion and 50% based on the fact that hes a gosu. 88% of these statistics are unresearched. When Major/Terran/Princess strikes that optimal balance of professionalism and skill he is going to be the next big thing imo.

Looking at this situation with SJ and Major with the limited information we have available there are only a few conclusions which can be drawn. Either Major has recently commited some terrible act which would force SJ to terminate and we are not fully informed about it. Or, Major is aware that he is too large a talent to be benched by a team not having the resources to send him to domestic tournaments never mind Korea.

Honestly if a team cant even send one representative to a large tournament like MLG then they are not a legitimate professional team unless there are some extenuating circumstances.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
September 04 2011 11:14 GMT
#116
Very interesting statement by Major himself!
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Dayrlan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States248 Posts
September 04 2011 11:15 GMT
#117
On September 04 2011 20:12 namste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:11 Probe1 wrote:
Whether you like majOr or not, sixjax failed to fulfill the promise to send him to Korea. They have parted ways. End of story.

I wish major luck on finding a new team and going to Korea.


Well, hard to say was there any official promises made or not when we haven't heard SixJax's side of it.


One thing is obvious: Major had an expectation from Sixjax that they would.

There's only two ways this can turn out:

1) Sixjax did promise as much. Then they reneged, and Major decided to part ways with the team as a result.

2) Sixjax didn't "officially" promise as much. Despite this, Major had the expectation that they would. When it became clear otherwise, he decided to part ways with the team.

In either scenario, Major made an appropriate decision.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
September 04 2011 11:15 GMT
#118
On September 04 2011 20:13 antikk555 wrote:
IdrA gets paid the big bucks 50% based on the fact that hes a dick to everyone in a very public fashion and 50% based on the fact that hes a gosu. 88% of these statistics are unresearched. When Major/Terran/Princess strikes that optimal balance of professionalism and skill he is going to be the next big thing imo.

Looking at this situation with SJ and Major with the limited information we have available there are only a few conclusions which can be drawn. Either Major has recently commited some terrible act which would force SJ to terminate and we are not fully informed about it. Or, Major is aware that he is too large a talent to be benched by a team not having the resources to send him to domestic tournaments never mind Korea.

Honestly if a team cant even send one representative to a large tournament like MLG then they are not a legitimate professional team unless there are some extenuating circumstances.


I dont think Idra has ever cheated his way into a region-bound tournament.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 04 2011 11:15 GMT
#119
Even while being his friend, I thought the SEA incident was ridiculous. But I know his statement to be true and sixjax is at fault here =/
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 04 2011 11:15 GMT
#120
On September 04 2011 20:13 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 20:12 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:08 zeru wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:06 sleepingdog wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well, being the best LA player and winning the blizzcon qualifier i would say is a way of showing that he has earned it.


Why don't you and everyone else around here who thinks that he is "entitled" to a free ticket to Korea go ahead and buy him one then?

Seriously, some of you act as if SixJax were "obliged" to finance him a Korea-trip.

So passive aggressive. Sixjax promised him a ticket when he joined, of course he's supposed to get one, but he didn't, so he left.

On September 04 2011 20:06 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
On September 04 2011 20:01 Defacer wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:53 Denzil wrote:
On September 04 2011 19:49 Consolidate wrote:
Sixjax is such a shady company.

Penny auctions do not a legitimate business model make.

The really tragic thing is that people are willing to shit on MajOr at the first provocation without any real knowledge of the situation.


Especially when they apparently have an auto bidder to come around and rebid on cheap auctions.

And yes it is people should read his post, the guy wants to improve first and foremost as a player good mindset to have.



He wants a free ticket to Korea. One that he never earned or was entitled to.

Well, being the best LA player and winning the blizzcon qualifier i would say is a way of showing that he has earned it.


I saved my company $100,000 last month. Where's my trip to Korea?



Did your employer promise you a ticket for your work?


Did sixjax?

From reading the OP, yes.


Thats only Major's side of the story. Who knows if he is telling the truth. Thats why you shouldn't blame anyone or say things before any confirmation/announcement..
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