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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 01 2011 12:21 GMT
#141
IM.Fenix? Well, I'm definitely not Fenix. He is Fenix.

I hope he can keep the hard work up and doesn't burn out. If he can adjust to the tough regimen and phenomenal players, I imagine that we will start seeing more of the phenomenal Fenix more than the mediocre Fenix.

With Sjow going to Korea, Naniwa and SaSe planning on staying for the long term, and Idra returning, Korea is getting crowded with foreigners, all of whom will hopefully trickle into Code A and Code S.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 12:21:58
September 01 2011 12:21 GMT
#142
On September 01 2011 21:14 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:05 marttorn wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:01 smallerk wrote:
On September 01 2011 20:57 tyCe wrote:
When Fenix left fnatic, I assumed it was because that a Korean team picked him up. Maybe it was planned all along, but the timing of the pseudo-announcement had to coincide with the ending of GSTL.


Fnatic said in a press release they let him go because he wasnt "quite at the level".That made fnatic the only team i hate in esports, glad sen left too.


ROFL really? Fnatic said that? Wooow, I don't mean to be hatin' but what player has Fnatic got now that IS "at the level"? Because judging by todays play, i'm pretty sure Fenix is (currently) better than Kawaii, TT1 NightEnd and... lefNaij? Really? Didn't know he played SC2. Cool I guess.

Oh I guess there's Rain, but it still seems weird to kick a player because he wasn't *quite* as good as the one guy they snatched (not meant in a negative way) from Korea.

I have to be missing something here :S


I think it was something like that, that he "hadn't been producing the results of a fnatic player" or something like that, which is pretty funny since no one else on their roster except Rain has achieved much, and Rain would certainly struggle with him right now.



It is true to some extent, before his GSTL fame, Fenix didn't really show any results other than his top 16 MLG finish and IEM qualifiers?

I know, but it's more that none of the other Fnatic members have achieved anything either...Leifnaj? Kawaii? Tt1? NightEnd?
Fenix came 3rd in Dreamhack winter, beating oGsTOP 3-1 in the bronze game, that was a great run. He won some big tournament in latin america, ironically beating TT1 to win that.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
September 01 2011 12:21 GMT
#143
On September 01 2011 21:20 Looms wrote:
omg NesTea, MVP, LosirA, AND Fenix in foreign tournaments. I think that I might have a new favorite team!


The IM foreign expeditionary squad. IMFES.

I hope they have IMFES shirts, that would be lol
Syntac
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 12:23:05
September 01 2011 12:22 GMT
#144
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 01 2011 21:18 pencil_ethics wrote:
OK, translation is up. There are actually a few extra gems in there other than the straight-up Fenix to IM news, so you are encouraged to read the full translation (especially the last 2 paragraphs!).

Peruvian terran Jian Carlo Morayra (IM, hereafter Fenix) has joined IM.

IM's head coach Kang Dong-hoon announced Fenix's signing immediately after the F.United-oGs GSTL match. Fenix has been playing without a team after his contract with Fnatic ended recently.

Fenix appeared in the GSTL match wearing a Googims Company (IM's uniform sponsor) shirt. While it was not IM's official uniform it shared the same design. The secret behind his outfit was none other than "joining IM".

IM's head coach said "Fenix recently entered our team house and saw he was all right after watching him practice. I rate his willingness to learn, high level of understanding of what he is being taught and the fact he constantly analyzes replays very highly. Also, he really wanted to join IM."

The effect of joining IM was profound. In the match against oGs, he defeated Luvsic and TheSTC to claim 2 kills [T/N: In spite of what the article said above, the article itself was posted before the match actually finished]. Not only did he achieve a good result but his actual match performance was also outstanding. He demonstrated greatly improved skill in only a few days. [T/N: The few days since entering the IM team house]

Head coach Kang Dong-hoon intends to use Fenix as the spearhead for IM's expansion into the foreign arena. "By training Fenix heavily and consistently entering him into foreign tournaments we will make the IM brand more well known. We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix." [T/N: MOAR IM PLAYERS ESPECIALLY NESTEA IN FOREIGN TOURNAMENTS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT]

In other news, IM's head coach is also considering signing players from Europe/North America and supposedly is actually in contact with such a player. [T/N: WHO COULD IT BE?????]



This is actually really big news. Signing yet another foreign player, a foreign expeditionary squad and Mvp/Nestea/Losira at more foreign events. I'm very excited!
.Riot
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines242 Posts
September 01 2011 12:22 GMT
#145
On September 01 2011 21:18 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:15 kraut wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:13 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Ya, sure they're gonna recruit SaSe who has shown nothing (edit: in Korea!) over ThorZain who quite showed some results + got Korean attention due to TSL + has a reputation already.
Suuuuuuuure dude.
If anyone then Thorzain.



the thing here is, mouz.ThorZain

I know he's in mouz so what?
IdrA & ret both had "regular" teams as well respectively when they went over.
IMO you cannot compare a small western team like mouz (yea, sorry, that's what they are in comparison, I know for us they are one of the biggest. But that's still bs compared to Korea) with a real progaming team like IM.

However you're all right about Thorzain if he doesn't want to stay it's very unlikely for him to be picked up, I didn't know about that.
I also never said that SaSe wouldn't deserve it but I just don't think so.
Even Nani would make more sense from there POV honestly...

I'm not really sure, but don't teams like mouz have contracts with their players, the seasoned and strong team they are? I heard once (not sure about the accuracy of these), but Sen had to wait for his contract with Fnatic to expire for him to leave. ThorZaIN also just left Praetoriani a few months ago to join mouz, so it doesn't sound that realistic for him to leave mouz so immediately. But I guess if he can, he might if he thinks joining a pro korean team will help him achieve his dream further and aligns with the rest of his goals, commitments, and ideals to achieve these goals.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 12:23:01
September 01 2011 12:22 GMT
#146
On September 01 2011 21:21 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:14 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:05 marttorn wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:01 smallerk wrote:
On September 01 2011 20:57 tyCe wrote:
When Fenix left fnatic, I assumed it was because that a Korean team picked him up. Maybe it was planned all along, but the timing of the pseudo-announcement had to coincide with the ending of GSTL.


Fnatic said in a press release they let him go because he wasnt "quite at the level".That made fnatic the only team i hate in esports, glad sen left too.


ROFL really? Fnatic said that? Wooow, I don't mean to be hatin' but what player has Fnatic got now that IS "at the level"? Because judging by todays play, i'm pretty sure Fenix is (currently) better than Kawaii, TT1 NightEnd and... lefNaij? Really? Didn't know he played SC2. Cool I guess.

Oh I guess there's Rain, but it still seems weird to kick a player because he wasn't *quite* as good as the one guy they snatched (not meant in a negative way) from Korea.

I have to be missing something here :S


I think it was something like that, that he "hadn't been producing the results of a fnatic player" or something like that, which is pretty funny since no one else on their roster except Rain has achieved much, and Rain would certainly struggle with him right now.



It is true to some extent, before his GSTL fame, Fenix didn't really show any results other than his top 16 MLG finish and IEM qualifiers?

I know, but it's more that none of the other Fnatic members have achieved anything either...Leifnaj? Kawaii? Tt1? NightEnd?
Fenix came 3rd in Dreamhack winter, beating oGsTOP 3-1 in the bronze game, that was a great run. He won some big tournament in latin america, ironically beating TT1 to win that.

I agree with you, thats why I said true to some extent xD

I think Fnatic were really under performing when Sen left and only started to pick up when Rain joined
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 01 2011 12:22 GMT
#147
On September 01 2011 21:20 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:19 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:18 iNfeRnaL wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:15 kraut wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:13 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Ya, sure they're gonna recruit SaSe who has shown nothing (edit: in Korea!) over ThorZain who quite showed some results + got Korean attention due to TSL + has a reputation already.
Suuuuuuuure dude.
If anyone then Thorzain.



the thing here is, mouz.ThorZain

I know he's in mouz so what?
IdrA & ret both had "regular" teams as well respectively when they went over.
IMO you cannot compare a small western team like mouz (yea, sorry, that's what they are in comparison, I know for us they are one of the biggest. But that's still bs compared to Korea) with real progaming team like IM.

However you're all right about Thorzain if he doesn't want to stay it's very unlikely for him to be picked up, I didn't know about that.
I also never said that SaSe wouldn't deserve it but I just don't think so.
Even Nani would make more sense from there POV honestly...

Mouz is one of the biggest and best non-Korean teams...

What part did you misinterprete? I said they're one of the biggest for us (= foreigners).
And that they're still nothing compared to a Korean pro team.
Look above, its all in the post you quoted but failed to read proper as it seems?


In Broodwar maybe...

But i don't think that's the case in SC2 at all even for big team like IM. Pretty sure most foreign teams are richer than SC2 Korean teams. These Korean teams even consider NASL deposits as huge investments and they keep getting their players poached.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
September 01 2011 12:22 GMT
#148
Good luck Fenix! This is really cool. :D
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
September 01 2011 12:22 GMT
#149
On September 01 2011 21:18 pencil_ethics wrote:
In other news, IM's head coach is also considering signing players from Europe/North America and supposedly is actually in contact with such a player. [T/N: WHO COULD IT BE?????]


IMIdra, duh. Mr. Chae confirmed it some months ago, remember?
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 01 2011 12:23 GMT
#150
On September 01 2011 21:18 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:14 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:05 marttorn wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:01 smallerk wrote:
On September 01 2011 20:57 tyCe wrote:
When Fenix left fnatic, I assumed it was because that a Korean team picked him up. Maybe it was planned all along, but the timing of the pseudo-announcement had to coincide with the ending of GSTL.


Fnatic said in a press release they let him go because he wasnt "quite at the level".That made fnatic the only team i hate in esports, glad sen left too.


ROFL really? Fnatic said that? Wooow, I don't mean to be hatin' but what player has Fnatic got now that IS "at the level"? Because judging by todays play, i'm pretty sure Fenix is (currently) better than Kawaii, TT1 NightEnd and... lefNaij? Really? Didn't know he played SC2. Cool I guess.

Oh I guess there's Rain, but it still seems weird to kick a player because he wasn't *quite* as good as the one guy they snatched (not meant in a negative way) from Korea.

I have to be missing something here :S


I think it was something like that, that he "hadn't been producing the results of a fnatic player" or something like that, which is pretty funny since no one else on their roster except Rain has achieved much, and Rain would certainly struggle with him right now.



It is true to some extent, before his GSTL fame, Fenix didn't really show any results other than his top 16 MLG finish and IEM qualifiers?


Well and what did the other fnatic guys win that make them that much better then Fenix ?


I think TT1 has won a couple bans on TL for balance complaining in LR threads...

Seriously though, no Fnatic players really have any big accomplishments as far as I know, a couple top 25 finishes @ MLG (and a 2nd place in 2010 MLG for tt1).

I think their best accomplishment is Rain's second place in GSL some time ago, and he wasn't in Fnatic at that point.
memes are a dish best served dank
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
September 01 2011 12:24 GMT
#151
On September 01 2011 21:18 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:14 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:05 marttorn wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:01 smallerk wrote:
On September 01 2011 20:57 tyCe wrote:
When Fenix left fnatic, I assumed it was because that a Korean team picked him up. Maybe it was planned all along, but the timing of the pseudo-announcement had to coincide with the ending of GSTL.


Fnatic said in a press release they let him go because he wasnt "quite at the level".That made fnatic the only team i hate in esports, glad sen left too.


ROFL really? Fnatic said that? Wooow, I don't mean to be hatin' but what player has Fnatic got now that IS "at the level"? Because judging by todays play, i'm pretty sure Fenix is (currently) better than Kawaii, TT1 NightEnd and... lefNaij? Really? Didn't know he played SC2. Cool I guess.

Oh I guess there's Rain, but it still seems weird to kick a player because he wasn't *quite* as good as the one guy they snatched (not meant in a negative way) from Korea.

I have to be missing something here :S


I think it was something like that, that he "hadn't been producing the results of a fnatic player" or something like that, which is pretty funny since no one else on their roster except Rain has achieved much, and Rain would certainly struggle with him right now.



It is true to some extent, before his GSTL fame, Fenix didn't really show any results other than his top 16 MLG finish and IEM qualifiers?


Well and what did the other fnatic guys win that make them that much better then Fenix ?


Sen and Rain are both very good? Rain did well the last two MLG's and Sen is just a monster (ripped up the NASL and what not).
KawaiRice did really well this MLG, putting down some top players. On their site, they also have JF (TSL 1 winner) and NightEnd. So they certainly have talent. As of two weeks ago, I would say that everyone there is on par with Fenix or better. Obviously his stay in Korea threw that off kilter for a bit and changed the status quo. But they are certainly not without talent and they said there are some new big signings to happen very soon.
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Nerdslayer
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1130 Posts
September 01 2011 12:24 GMT
#152
"We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix"

they should rename it to "Game over squad" this gonna be sick
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
September 01 2011 12:25 GMT
#153
I hope Sase tries to join IM too, he would be a beast with such training partners.
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 12:30:19
September 01 2011 12:25 GMT
#154
On September 01 2011 21:23 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:18 s3rp wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:14 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:05 marttorn wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:01 smallerk wrote:
On September 01 2011 20:57 tyCe wrote:
When Fenix left fnatic, I assumed it was because that a Korean team picked him up. Maybe it was planned all along, but the timing of the pseudo-announcement had to coincide with the ending of GSTL.


Fnatic said in a press release they let him go because he wasnt "quite at the level".That made fnatic the only team i hate in esports, glad sen left too.


ROFL really? Fnatic said that? Wooow, I don't mean to be hatin' but what player has Fnatic got now that IS "at the level"? Because judging by todays play, i'm pretty sure Fenix is (currently) better than Kawaii, TT1 NightEnd and... lefNaij? Really? Didn't know he played SC2. Cool I guess.

Oh I guess there's Rain, but it still seems weird to kick a player because he wasn't *quite* as good as the one guy they snatched (not meant in a negative way) from Korea.

I have to be missing something here :S


I think it was something like that, that he "hadn't been producing the results of a fnatic player" or something like that, which is pretty funny since no one else on their roster except Rain has achieved much, and Rain would certainly struggle with him right now.



It is true to some extent, before his GSTL fame, Fenix didn't really show any results other than his top 16 MLG finish and IEM qualifiers?


Well and what did the other fnatic guys win that make them that much better then Fenix ?


I think TT1 has won a couple bans on TL for balance complaining in LR threads...

Seriously though, no Fnatic players really have any big accomplishments as far as I know, a couple top 25 finishes @ MLG (and a 2nd place in 2010 MLG for tt1).

I think their best accomplishment is Rain's second place in GSL some time ago, and he wasn't in Fnatic at that point.

Fnatic Sen beat July and got third place in NASL. I know he's not with Fnatic anymore but he accomplish that feat while he was in Fnatic.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 01 2011 12:25 GMT
#155
On September 01 2011 20:02 Krainer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 19:54 Lumi wrote:
This would also make him the first foreigner to join a Korean team in SC2.



Didn't Torch join ST?


Torch isn't actually a good player though. He wasn't very good even when he made it into a GSL Open. He only does media and PR.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
September 01 2011 12:27 GMT
#156
Good for you fenix, you deserve it!
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TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
September 01 2011 12:27 GMT
#157
On September 01 2011 21:18 pencil_ethics wrote:
Head coach Kang Dong-hoon intends to use Fenix as the spearhead for IM's expansion into the foreign arena. "By training Fenix heavily and consistently entering him into foreign tournaments we will make the IM brand more well known. We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix." [T/N: MOAR IM PLAYERS ESPECIALLY NESTEA IN FOREIGN TOURNAMENTS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT]

In other news, IM's head coach is also considering signing players from Europe/North America and supposedly is actually in contact with such a player. [T/N: WHO COULD IT BE?????]


Wow, really interesting with the "Foreign Expeditionary Squad" and the possibility to get more IM players in international tournaments!

Regarding the player it could be SaSe, IM has the best zerg and Terran players but their roster could benefit with a good Protoss player.
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Syntac
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39 Posts
September 01 2011 12:27 GMT
#158
Sen's no longer with fnatic, hes now a member of the Taiwanese Team Gama Bears I believe.
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 12:28:33
September 01 2011 12:28 GMT
#159
IMFenix has a nice ring to it.
Also, this is really exciting news.
Edit: SaSe seems likely.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 01 2011 12:28 GMT
#160
On September 01 2011 21:25 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:23 marttorn wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:18 s3rp wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:14 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:11 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:05 marttorn wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:01 smallerk wrote:
On September 01 2011 20:57 tyCe wrote:
When Fenix left fnatic, I assumed it was because that a Korean team picked him up. Maybe it was planned all along, but the timing of the pseudo-announcement had to coincide with the ending of GSTL.


Fnatic said in a press release they let him go because he wasnt "quite at the level".That made fnatic the only team i hate in esports, glad sen left too.


ROFL really? Fnatic said that? Wooow, I don't mean to be hatin' but what player has Fnatic got now that IS "at the level"? Because judging by todays play, i'm pretty sure Fenix is (currently) better than Kawaii, TT1 NightEnd and... lefNaij? Really? Didn't know he played SC2. Cool I guess.

Oh I guess there's Rain, but it still seems weird to kick a player because he wasn't *quite* as good as the one guy they snatched (not meant in a negative way) from Korea.

I have to be missing something here :S


I think it was something like that, that he "hadn't been producing the results of a fnatic player" or something like that, which is pretty funny since no one else on their roster except Rain has achieved much, and Rain would certainly struggle with him right now.



It is true to some extent, before his GSTL fame, Fenix didn't really show any results other than his top 16 MLG finish and IEM qualifiers?


Well and what did the other fnatic guys win that make them that much better then Fenix ?


I think TT1 has won a couple bans on TL for balance complaining in LR threads...

Seriously though, no Fnatic players really have any big accomplishments as far as I know, a couple top 25 finishes @ MLG (and a 2nd place in 2010 MLG for tt1).

I think their best accomplishment is Rain's second place in GSL some time ago, and he wasn't in Fnatic at that point.

Fnatic Sen beat July and got third place in NASL.


Sen left Fnatic a month or so ago
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