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On September 02 2011 04:34 darkest44 wrote:TT1 is such a hypocrite and douche for trying to derail a nice announcement for a player with his personal grudges. Its funny hearing him bitch about someone being untrustworthy when hes a known maphacker from sc1, you can't get lower than that bro.... Pot, kettle. http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/16730-Nine_StarCraft_maphackers_banned_others_live_in_fearIf you took 2nd place and he took first, that should be close enough to "splitting the money", you both got a payday, maybe he felt guilty about making a shady deal that looks like match fixing, cry more.
LOL what does that have to do with this ?
TT1 was a kid when he did that, sure its bad, but between cheating as a kid and stealing money as a adult, which is worse ?
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Yeah, it is a bit lame for people to say "you cheated at a game" = "You stole a multithousand dollar amount from me". Come back down to earth you opinionated nerds.
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On September 02 2011 04:42 flowSthead wrote:
Something isn't quite right. Fenix left Fnatic a few weeks ago in August, while that tournament was last year in December. If what TT1 is saying is true, then why did it take them 8 months to make a decision? Or was the tournament payed out only 7 or 8 months later?
payout was late, we recently got the money
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As much as I may not be entirely on TT1's side I have to agree; keep his former maphacking the fuck out of it, it has nothing to do with what Fenix did and just because TT1 did something wrong in BW all that time ago doesn't mean he's wrong by default.
If TT1 came here accusing fenix of shit in BW, referring to his maphacking might be somewhat more valid (but still technically off-topic).
If Hitler came in here and accused Fenix of being a dishonest fuck, sure, disregard him. But don't go all "LOL you maphacked retard" on TT1 now in September of 2011
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On September 02 2011 04:42 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:38 babylon wrote:Hahaha @ the TT1 haters. I don't like the dude all that much, but just because he maphacked in the past doesn't excuse Fenix's alleged behavior. Whatever. Drama is fun. We've been short on it lately, right?  It was wrong by both of them to agree on a split, think of the tournament organizers for a minute. Xeris wouldn't like such an agreement before the NASL finals.
we made the agreed BEFORE the tournament had started, this is something that is common which several other players from different teams have done aswell.. just gotta know who your dealing with i guess =] i learned my lesson tho
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On September 02 2011 04:39 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:30 Full.tilt wrote:On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote:
TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. im being greedy? pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me oh well at least he didn't cheat. yea because someone who cheated when he was 16 y.os in a game
You mean 20?
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I'm proud and jealous of Fenix at the same time. I had a feeling the first major foreigner to be acquired would be a Terran and thank goodness its a team that needed to fill their holes in their racial line up.
Fenix has posted way better results than any Terran not named MVP in that roster.
Congrats to IM and Fenix on making a respectable partnership.
On September 02 2011 00:50 Tchado wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 00:10 Asymmetric wrote:On September 02 2011 00:00 julianto wrote:On September 01 2011 23:49 Dfgj wrote:We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix. Welp, that's that guys. Go home, game over. O GOD THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF STARCRAFT WILL PURGE THE FOREIGN SCENE IN 2012. ![[image loading]](http://creationoutreach.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fourhorsement1.jpg) IM getting off at the airport Great move by fenix though to have the opportunity to train with IM. AWESOME !
While the comparison is passable I won't consider any team to have the four horseman until they have monsters representing T, Z, P and R. So far only MVP is in a position to do that but none of them besides Don Raegu can be qualified as scary and dominate.
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On September 02 2011 04:42 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:38 babylon wrote:Hahaha @ the TT1 haters. I don't like the dude all that much, but just because he maphacked in the past doesn't excuse Fenix's alleged behavior. Whatever. Drama is fun. We've been short on it lately, right? It was wrong by both of them to agree on a split, think of the tournament organizers for a minute. Xeris wouldn't like such an agreement before the NASL finals.
There is nothing wrong with agreeing to split prize money, its is regularly done in poker tournaments, on pokerstars moderators can even pause the game so players can sort out some kind of a deal.
fenix was basically freerolling tt1, its very unethical.
Anyways, gl to fenix, he showed some great games
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Grats to Fenix for joining the best team in the world.
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On September 02 2011 04:48 mutantmagnet wrote:I'm proud and jealous of Fenix at the same time. I had a feeling the first major foreigner to be acquired would be a Terran and thank goodness its a team that needed to fill their holes in their racial line up. Fenix has posted way better results than any Terran not named MVP in that roster. Congrats to IM and Fenix on making a respectable partnership. Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 00:50 Tchado wrote:On September 02 2011 00:10 Asymmetric wrote:On September 02 2011 00:00 julianto wrote:On September 01 2011 23:49 Dfgj wrote:We will operate a foreign expeditionary squad consisting of NesTea-Mvp-LosirA-Fenix. Welp, that's that guys. Go home, game over. O GOD THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF STARCRAFT WILL PURGE THE FOREIGN SCENE IN 2012. IM getting off at the airport Great move by fenix though to have the opportunity to train with IM. AWESOME ! While the comparison is passable I won't consider any team to have the four horseman until they have monsters representing T, Z, P and R. So far only MVP is in a position to do that but none of them besides Don Raegu can be qualified as scary and dominate.
Are you saying DRG>Nestea? I'm confused.
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On September 02 2011 04:46 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:42 Maenander wrote:On September 02 2011 04:38 babylon wrote:Hahaha @ the TT1 haters. I don't like the dude all that much, but just because he maphacked in the past doesn't excuse Fenix's alleged behavior. Whatever. Drama is fun. We've been short on it lately, right? It was wrong by both of them to agree on a split, think of the tournament organizers for a minute. Xeris wouldn't like such an agreement before the NASL finals. this is something that is common which several other players from different teams have done aswell..
I am sad. Poor Esports.
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On September 02 2011 04:49 hrvoje07 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:42 Maenander wrote:On September 02 2011 04:38 babylon wrote:Hahaha @ the TT1 haters. I don't like the dude all that much, but just because he maphacked in the past doesn't excuse Fenix's alleged behavior. Whatever. Drama is fun. We've been short on it lately, right? It was wrong by both of them to agree on a split, think of the tournament organizers for a minute. Xeris wouldn't like such an agreement before the NASL finals. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to split prize money, its is regularly done in poker tournaments, on pokerstars moderators can even pause the game so players can sort out some kind of a deal. fenix was basically freerolling tt1, its very unethical.
Yes it is. Who gives a fuck if poker players do it? Splitting a pot pool is a step above match-making. There's no incentive to try.
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On September 02 2011 04:42 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:38 babylon wrote:Hahaha @ the TT1 haters. I don't like the dude all that much, but just because he maphacked in the past doesn't excuse Fenix's alleged behavior. Whatever. Drama is fun. We've been short on it lately, right? It was wrong by both of them to agree on a split, think of the tournament organizers for a minute. Xeris wouldn't like such an agreement before the NASL finals.
I'm under the impression that it's not uncommon for players to agree to splitting the prize money for a tournament if they're on the same team, but maybe that's just me.
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@TT1
Next time play for your money...
I am not saying that what Fenix did was honest/correct, but going 1 base carriers just for the kicks of it instead of playing seriously for the fans is ridiculous IMO.
Play fair and make the game even more enjoyable to watch, that's all the fans ask of you.
That type of problem you had with Fenix was already dealt with as he had to leave the team, now all you should do IMO is live your life and give your best on winning games, specially against him to get your personal revenge the right way.
You do realize that you can never "win" on a thread like this, right?
Let it go, man... let it go!
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Haters gonna hate. None of these "he cheataed he deserves it" people would ever try asserting this supposedly logical moral assessment in a conversation with both of those people in the real world. They wouldn't have the nerve to back their junk up anymore because even in people that dingus-y, there's a voice in them that actually knows better. They're just pooping out some lazy internet badass opinions like the suave hand of judgement. Ballers!
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Thats pretty awesome. Fenix is a cool guy and I hope he does well.
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On September 02 2011 01:11 Bulkers wrote:
Ill never understand this relation between foreigner and Korean teams... There is 20+ better terrans outside Korea than Fenix, and the best team in world pick him... It works the other way too... what Hero/Puma/Rain ect. are looking in foreign teams? Practice is way better in Korea and then one of the best players in the world is flying to US to EG house to practice with players that (with all due respect) achieved nothing yet in sc2...
"If you dont know whats going on, then is probably about money"
In business there is more to making acquisitions than the level of performance of an employee. Their ability to travel and assimilate into the business culture is also important. Fewer people are cut out for that than you would realize.
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On September 02 2011 04:49 hrvoje07 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:42 Maenander wrote:On September 02 2011 04:38 babylon wrote:Hahaha @ the TT1 haters. I don't like the dude all that much, but just because he maphacked in the past doesn't excuse Fenix's alleged behavior. Whatever. Drama is fun. We've been short on it lately, right? It was wrong by both of them to agree on a split, think of the tournament organizers for a minute. Xeris wouldn't like such an agreement before the NASL finals. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to split prize money, its is regularly done in poker tournaments, on pokerstars moderators can even pause the game so players can sort out some kind of a deal. fenix was basically freerolling tt1, its very unethical. Anyways, gl to fenix, he showed some great games
Does one of those poker players then essentially throw the rest of the hands? That's basically what tt1 did. What Fenix did was wrong obviously but the fact that TT1 allowed this agreement to affect his play is equally disturbing to me.
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this is so awesome, congrats fenix! make us foreigners proud :D
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On September 02 2011 04:47 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 04:39 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 04:30 Full.tilt wrote:On September 02 2011 04:26 TT1 wrote:On September 02 2011 03:38 Kieofire wrote:On September 02 2011 03:35 dgwow wrote:On September 02 2011 03:32 ptbl wrote:
TT1 and Fenix had an agreement to split their winnings from Gamegune 2010 50/50. Fenix came in first place, while TT1 came in second. I think Fenix reneged on the agreement and decided not to split 50/50. If that's true, sucks for TT1, Fenix joins IM and keeps all the money =o Well by all means it is Fenix's money if he did win it, TT1 is just being greedy if this is true. im being greedy? pretournament we agreed (and i sent xeris a pm right after our agreement, in case something like this would have happened) that if we made it to the finals we were to share the winnings, after the finals(after i 1 base carriered him and he won) he told me that he didnt want to go through with the split, in my book the lowest thing someone can do is go back on his word after he made a promise.. hes a smart guy tho because he had both bases covered, if i had won the tournament he was gonna get a 50/50 split and if he ended up winning he wasnt gonna go throught with the split, if i cant trust someone then i dont want to have anything to do with that person and i let fnatic know my stance and told them to make a decision, a person that betrays someone elses trust and has no value for his word is the lowest form of a human being to me oh well at least he didn't cheat. yea because someone who cheated when he was 16 y.os in a game You mean 20?
no when i got caught in tsl1 the replays that they referred to were dated, u should read the post
i find it funny how i still have to defend myself for something that has nothing to do with you people and this situation =] if fenix were to have commited murder would u have posted.. o well at least he didnt cheat like tt1 did in sc1? LOL
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