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unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
October 06 2011 23:10 GMT
#3841
On October 07 2011 07:54 madals wrote:
Finally getting to a point where I am winning stuff consistently - have a strong team of current performers as well as up and comers! Man this game is still addictive!
What do people think of the new battle system?

I think it's alright and an improvement but the quick all in variants are too strong for my taste.

Plus teching seems useless right now, especially with the quick all ins it's hard to get to T2. By looking at the news and changes Unipedal seems to work pretty hard to tweak everything so it'll be awesome in a couple of days.

The bad news for me is that the team tournament earnings will be split in the near future, I was starting to win the Dull Edge and Queenstone tournaments
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
October 07 2011 04:53 GMT
#3842
I am simply in love with this site. There should be a mobile app, that would be too much for me.
Gullik
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway8 Posts
October 07 2011 13:15 GMT
#3843
What kind of tactics are people using with the new system? Earlier I used a plenty of macro build with lots of drops along with high multitasking. I have tried it again with the new system and have dropped about 200 team ELO
lueiGi2
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada24 Posts
October 07 2011 13:46 GMT
#3844
I like how with a modified strat, my player with average stats of ~7 beat a player with average stats of ~8.5 with the new system.
BbBoS
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom25 Posts
October 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#3845
How do you all get such good strategies, mine are really awful, when the new system came out and I entered my players in the tournaments using the default strats, my highest ranked guy got all the ray up to 2750 elo ~ and held it (played lots of tournaments that day :D), but now that people started figuring out what to do again, my guy has now dropped back down to 2400~ .

How do you create your strats, whats the most effective way of creating and tweaking one, because waiting for the tournament to start again just seems like a lot of time :s
KingLori
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany187 Posts
October 07 2011 17:17 GMT
#3846
The new battle-system is really bad. My 3100 ELO players lose like against All-In'ing 2300 ELO Players, just bad. I stop playing until this is fixed.
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
October 07 2011 17:38 GMT
#3847
The new system is really good tbh it still has some flaws and if you're playing a strat that is not good vs a Quick All In you're in trouble.

If you want to steal a good build browse the Hall of Fame and look around for a strat from one of the high ELO guys that you find interesting and tweak it to your liking.

Overall Quick All In's feel a bit too strong but you can win stuff without using them yourself.

BbBoS
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom25 Posts
October 07 2011 17:58 GMT
#3848
I started looking at some of the strats and trying to mimic them, thanks

Also another quick question, is there a way to get rid of your current sponsor so you can change it for another?
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
October 07 2011 18:01 GMT
#3849
No you'll have to wait till the contract expires.
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
October 07 2011 22:59 GMT
#3850
ok, so i just logged onto this for the first time and found a tournament called "hayders gonna hayd"

it made my day.
:D
Asday
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom388 Posts
October 07 2011 23:03 GMT
#3851
On October 08 2011 07:59 ishboh wrote:
ok, so i just logged onto this for the first time and found a tournament called "hayders gonna hayd"

it made my day.
:D

The Bonjwa league icon is Hayder's face.
DGenerate
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada140 Posts
October 08 2011 18:14 GMT
#3852
I was doing fine with the old combat system, even if most of my players used default strats. But since the new system, my guys all lost about 300 ELO ratings with the new default strats. This is a bit harsh since there's not really a good way to try out strategies and it's really time consuming.
KingLori
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany187 Posts
October 08 2011 18:20 GMT
#3853
Same here, just quit the game until they fixed the horrible system. All my 3100 ELO players are ~2600 now because of all these quick-allin bullshit.
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
October 08 2011 18:39 GMT
#3854
On October 09 2011 03:14 DGenerate wrote:
I was doing fine with the old combat system, even if most of my players used default strats. But since the new system, my guys all lost about 300 ELO ratings with the new default strats. This is a bit harsh since there's not really a good way to try out strategies and it's really time consuming.

Well you can test strategies pretty easy, just play practice games with your players and let one use the Quick All In and try to counter it.

I don't understand all the whining about the new battle system, it's more in-depth which is a good thing. Sure it needs some tweaks and bug fixes. Quick All Ins are too good when you're using bad/default strats.

On October 09 2011 03:20 KingLori wrote:
Same here, just quit the game until they fixed the horrible system. All my 3100 ELO players are ~2600 now because of all these quick-allin bullshit.

I got from 55% winrate to 71% winrate in team tournaments without using Quick All Ins, most of my players gained 300-500 ELO despite all the Quick All In abusing.

If you're too lazy to fiddle around with strats than you've to use Quick All Ins or quit the game but whining about a "horrible system" when it's actually pretty good is kinda silly don't you think?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
October 09 2011 14:49 GMT
#3855
damn the new battle system has my good players losing games they shouldn't i like the new talent system thing though
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 15:55:12
October 09 2011 14:57 GMT
#3856
Also, is it possible for your players to get poached if you don't play them in tournaments? Maybe it's a stupid question but i'm wondering...
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 13 2011 13:28 GMT
#3857
Any good builds that someone wouldnt mind sharing and Pm to me? Im getting destroyed over and over.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
KingLori
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany187 Posts
October 13 2011 13:31 GMT
#3858
Just quit the game. Since the new battle-system, the game is dead.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 13 2011 14:03 GMT
#3859
Looks like alot of people still play to me. And I like playing between slow periods in the BW manager.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Rash
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico45 Posts
October 13 2011 15:42 GMT
#3860
Hahaha, awsome game. So, there is no other way for your players to train besides sending them to tourneys?
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