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Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=745851&board=&category=13439
The king of Terran has forced the god of Zerg to submit.
IMMVP has advanced to the Round of 8. In the first game of the fifth match of the 2011 Pepsi GSL Season 5 Round of 16, IMNestea was defeated at the hands of his teammate. After the combat of the first set, MVP won the second game with powerful early pressure, and the series ended 2:0 in his favor.
This is the third time in MVP's career that he has advanced to the Code S Ro8. Additionally, his record against Nestea is now 5:1.
Q: It has been a long time since you have advanced to the Code S Ro8. A: After 4 seasons, I no longer believed that I could come back. I was behind for a really long time. But I was able to make it this far, so after 4 seasons I will do what it takes to win.
Q: But still, if you got through the Round of 32 you won. (laughs) A: It has been like that so far. If I didn't win, I was eliminated in the first round. I feel confident this time as well. This is because I've gotten past the Round of 32, and also advanced beyond the Round of 16.
Q: What did you think of being matched up with Nestea? A: It was too bad that we met in a best of 3, but I guess it can't be helped.
Q: You chose a 2rax build in the second set. A: To be honest, I didn't prepare a 2rax for the second game during practice. Nestea completely read my build in the first game, and it seemed like he excluded the possibility of a 2rax in the second. [T/N I was a little bit confused here, but basically MVP was saying he mindgamed Nestea]
Q: You went with strong early pressure in the second game. A: It seems like Nestea probably didn't know two bunkers could block the entrance. I did know it, but in practice I had still prepared for a long management game. Luckily, after the two bunkers completed it seemed like I would win.
Q: It seems like we've seen the result of the Blizzcon Finals. A: Because this will be Nestea's first time in a foreign event, condition will be the most important thing. But even if he can't adjust to jet lag, he should still be able to make it to the finals. But I don't really know, I really don't. Because I don't know foreign players' styles well, I can't make any guarantees.
Q: Your record against Nestea is now 5:1. A: It seems like Nestea is the highest among all Zerg players. I've happy that I won, but the 5:1 record makes me even happier. I am full of confidence against Zerg players.
Q: Which player do you want to face in the Ro8? [T/N Huk/Nada had not been decided yet] A: Both players are very good and have tough styles. It seems like there have been a lot of Terran players lately, so fans like seeing Protoss players more. I personally don't care [T/N whether I play TvT or TvP], but for the sake of the fans it seems like it will be better if the Protoss wins. Either way, there will be very good players in the Ro8.
Q: Because you knocked out Nestea, do you feel a responsibility to win? A: This was a teamkill, so I definitely want to make it to the highest position, and I will train as hard as it takes to win.
Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs) A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh]
Q: Anything else you want to say? A: I want to thank IMHorror, IMTrue, and IMLosira as well as MVPDongRaeGu, CheckPrime, and STCurious for helping me in practice. Thanks a lot to these players.
+ Show Spoiler [Translator's Note] +This is my first translation, sorry if there are any horrible errors. If there's any language that needs clarified or if I translated something poorly please tell me and I'll try to clean it up. Thanks
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Losira should have been a double agent and reported back to NesTea!
And thanks for translating!
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Have to play #1 zerg? Get #2 and #3 zerg to practice with you!
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Nestea with 2000 minerals and 0 gas in game 1 before any engagements and before taking a 4th base which wasn't being contended. So disappointing. Mega T.T
MVP with low money on 4 bases by 12:00 and a 5th soon after, still extremely low money. Superb play.
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Thank you! I missed these so much. <3
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DongRaegu isn't losing to a terran this upcoming MLG. MVP has sick practice partners! Hope to see him make it to the finals :D
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ah so interesting he got dongraegu and losira to prac with him. i hope mvp wins this gsl
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Funny to see MVP jokingly rejecting 1-1-1 as a strategy he uses, especially considering that + Show Spoiler + claims to have found a somewhat solid, reliable counter to it.
Anyways, I hope their meeting in the Blizzcon tourney will have Nestea in stronger form
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On August 25 2011 12:51 rave[wcr] wrote: ah so interesting he got dongraegu and losira to prac with him. i hope mvp wins this gsl
It's like a previous poster said. When you needa take out zerg #1, just get #2 and 3.
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Nestea has a 50% win ratio in masters and MVP has a 75% win ratio in GM.
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On August 25 2011 12:46 arbitrageur wrote: Nestea with 2000 minerals and 0 gas in game 1 before any engagements and before taking a 4th base which wasn't being contended. So disappointing. Mega T.T
MVP with low money on 4 bases by 12:00 and a 5th soon after, still extremely low money. Superb play.
...What? Where would you throw that 2000 minerals and 0 gas? Zerglings? Mass expand when MVP's multitasking is one of the best? Although I do agree with the 4th base being a tiny bit late, ripping on a zerg and saying "There is no best zerg anymore" (Yes, I saw that) because he was gas starved is hardly fair.
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Watching the macro from MVP in game 1 was incredible. He made the macro of every other terran in TvZ look bronze league in comparison.
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On August 25 2011 12:52 eviltomahawk wrote:Funny to see MVP jokingly rejecting 1-1-1 as a strategy he uses, especially considering that + Show Spoiler + claims to have found a somewhat solid, reliable counter to it. Anyways, I hope their meeting in the Blizzcon tourney will have Nestea in stronger form
but he hasn't used 1/1/1 in this GSL season at all
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On August 25 2011 12:46 arbitrageur wrote: Nestea with 2000 minerals and 0 gas in game 1 before any engagements and before taking a 4th base which wasn't being contended. So disappointing. Mega T.T
MVP with low money on 4 bases by 12:00 and a 5th soon after, still extremely low money. Superb play.
I just watch the game over again, I didn't see nestea with 2k minerals untill he was maxed... -_-
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I can't believe so few people thought MVP would beat Nestea. He's only the best TvZer in the world. :/ I think it might be a mistake for MVP to just announce he won't use the 1-1-1 like that. It's noble, but he gives his opponent confidence knowing it's not coming, not to mention more options for strategies and openers.
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A: I want to thank IMHorror, IMTrue, and IMLosira as well as MVPDongRaeGu, CheckPrime, and STCurious for helping me in practice. Thanks a lot to these players. Jesus Christ, MVP.
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Thank you very much for the translation, I've been missing these.
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+ Show Spoiler +I kinda want to see HuK play against the 1-1-1 to see the supposed counter. If it actually works, his name will go down in history, just like the Bisu build vs. Zerg in BW
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Gogo MVP! My favorite player<3. Win this GSL please!
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Did not think DongRaeGu would be one of Mvp's practice partners. Curious was also a surprise to me.
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On August 25 2011 12:53 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:51 rave[wcr] wrote: ah so interesting he got dongraegu and losira to prac with him. i hope mvp wins this gsl It's like a previous poster said. When you needa take out zerg #1, just get #2 and 3.
Better yet, have #2 and #3 play at the SAME time, both controlling 1 "player" in the same game (and have them be able to communicate via speech lol), so that way the terran player will really be ready for anything. Boxer mentioned that he used this method back in BW (way back in the first years of SC1) in his autobiography, and that it helped him a lot xD.
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A: I want to thank IMHorror, IMTrue, and IMLosira as well as MVPDongRaeGu, CheckPrime, and STCurious for helping me in practice. Thanks a lot to these players.
MVP just went all out with practice partners. DRG, Losira, and Check? O.O
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of course, he practiced with DRG no wonder
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On August 25 2011 13:21 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +A: I want to thank IMHorror, IMTrue, and IMLosira as well as MVPDongRaeGu, CheckPrime, and STCurious for helping me in practice. Thanks a lot to these players. Jesus Christ, MVP.
MVP seems to be really popular among progamers. This is the list of players who helped prepare for MKP in the world championship finals I want to thank the following players who helped me practice: ST_Bomber,Clide,Alive,PuMa,oGsSuperNoVa,SlayerS_MMA,GanZI,IMYoDa
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even MVP, the best terran in the world, claims 1-1-1 is op. Incontrol artosis and the others need to play some korean terrans, they are ticking me off with the claims of how to beat it.
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I was starting to get tired- good on ya MVP. + Show Spoiler +Huk is calling for some 1-1-1 MVP, mash him up good.
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On August 25 2011 13:35 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 13:21 babylon wrote:A: I want to thank IMHorror, IMTrue, and IMLosira as well as MVPDongRaeGu, CheckPrime, and STCurious for helping me in practice. Thanks a lot to these players. Jesus Christ, MVP. MVP seems to be really popular among progamers. This is the list of players who helped prepare for MKP in the world championship finals Show nested quote + I want to thank the following players who helped me practice: ST_Bomber,Clide,Alive,PuMa,oGsSuperNoVa,SlayerS_MMA,GanZI,IMYoDa
He's the highest level bw player to switch over so far. Probably earns him a lot of respect. Oh yea, also helps that he's a chill ass dude.
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Hey nice interview and great translation! Appreciate it
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On August 25 2011 12:46 last.resistance wrote: Have to play #1 zerg? Get #2 and #3 zerg to practice with you!
haha +1
IMLosira + MVPDongRaeGu
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On August 25 2011 13:36 koolaid1990 wrote: even MVP, the best terran in the world, claims 1-1-1 is op. Incontrol artosis and the others need to play some korean terrans, they are ticking me off with the claims of how to beat it. I read Tyler's statements in another thread, saying that P simply can't go 1gate expo, without being vulnerable to this build. He said something to the effect that if P goes Star or Robo, then they can play safe against the 1-1-1, and still be equal in economy to T into the midgame.
I believe Artosis thinks that 1 base Colossus is the solution.
While I think inControl acknowledges it's tough to handle.
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Thanks for interview translation
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On August 25 2011 13:19 red4ce wrote: I think it might be a mistake for MVP to just announce he won't use the 1-1-1 like that.
Could also be messing with other players minds by saying that and at some point he will use it. Either way, nice to see MVP making it farther in the GSL.
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On August 25 2011 13:01 arbitrageur wrote: Nestea has a 50% win ratio in masters and MVP has a 75% win ratio in GM. Ya man, Nestea's such a baddie
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On August 25 2011 13:56 diarsenic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 13:01 arbitrageur wrote: Nestea has a 50% win ratio in masters and MVP has a 75% win ratio in GM. Ya man, Nestea's such a baddie Its cause Nestea to put it crudely, dicks around on ladder. Don't read too much into it.
Well MVP better fckin win after taking out Nestea </3
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On August 25 2011 12:52 eviltomahawk wrote:Funny to see MVP jokingly rejecting 1-1-1 as a strategy he uses, especially considering that + Show Spoiler + claims to have found a somewhat solid, reliable counter to it. Anyways, I hope their meeting in the Blizzcon tourney will have Nestea in stronger form Yeah dood, I don't think he's joking..
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Didn't he use his own variation of 1/1/1 vs MC. I thought it was pretty slick showing expo then move straight into marine, tank, banshee, raven. Fooled MC that's for sure. Eitherway I love watching him play. True special tactics.
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MVP so good.
Teamkills are always unfortunate.
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Wow, MVP had the best zergs to help in practice.
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On August 25 2011 13:29 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:53 rysecake wrote:On August 25 2011 12:51 rave[wcr] wrote: ah so interesting he got dongraegu and losira to prac with him. i hope mvp wins this gsl It's like a previous poster said. When you needa take out zerg #1, just get #2 and 3. Better yet, have #2 and #3 play at the SAME time, both controlling 1 "player" in the same game (and have them be able to communicate via speech lol), so that way the terran player will really be ready for anything. Boxer mentioned that he used this method back in BW (way back in the first years of SC1) in his autobiography, and that it helped him a lot xD.
i would absolutely LOVE to see a fun tournament like this. terran would be imba looool.
mvp/mma controlling player 1 (terran) nestea/losira controlling player 2 (zerg)
literally the ultimate tvz. mechanics and play will be 500 times better. a game with perfect macro and micro.
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Taking out the best protoss and best zerg in GSL means his going to take this one now. Now he just needs to take out the Optimus Prime, BW Legend and that Foreigner Hope :D
MVP FIGHTING!!!
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i think we need to give 1-1-1 a very clear definition. It has to be a marine+tank+banshees +with or without raven+ most importantly, SCVs!!! and it has to be an one base all in.
The strategy mvp used to beat MC is not 1-1-1 all in. MC has enough time to expand and create the army he needs. MVP played a containing style of its own with the tanks which was damn freaking cool
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IMNesTea has a bad ZvT and IMMvp has the best TvZ I think. Not very surprised with results, but surprised how poorly NesTea was playing. But then again, IMMvp is the only player that can make NesTea look anything less than flawless.
IM will take their 6th championship EZ
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On August 25 2011 14:27 tdt wrote: Didn't he use his own variation of 1/1/1 vs MC. I thought it was pretty slick showing expo then move straight into marine, tank, banshee, raven. Fooled MC that's for sure. Eitherway I love watching him play. True special tactics.
Well....no. The unit composition was similar with marines, tanks and a banshee but it came much later. If I recall it was a 4-1-1 after 1 rax expand. Obviously not the same thing.
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Q: You've said some things about Terran balance on Twitter recently. (laughs) A: 1-1-1 is very strong. Because it has a lot of applications, it's really powerful. It's extremely difficult for Protoss. Even though it's really strong, I've rejected the 1-1-1 and don't use it in my games. (laughs) Fans have a lot of different reactions to the 1-1-1, but players can't help it. Don't progamers have to win? You have to understand how important it is. [T/N unsure on this last sentence, sorry. seems like MVP admits it is strong but thinks fan backlash is a little too harsh]
Mad respect to MVP for this lol
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On August 25 2011 14:38 mnck wrote: surprised how poorly NesTea was playing
Oh come on...
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Nestea is a martyr, man.
He lost on purpose in order to convince David Kim to nerf Terrans in the next patch.
Let us remember the Zerg God's sacrifice for the fruition of this glorious patch.
+ Show Spoiler +Of course I'm joking around here. <.<
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MVP looking in top form this time round. id probs say he is the best terran atm. And DRG as practice partner? no wonder he made even nestea look nooby!
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I would not be surprised in the slightest if MVP gets his third GSL this season.
The guy is so solid.
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On August 25 2011 13:36 koolaid1990 wrote: even MVP, the best terran in the world, claims 1-1-1 is op. Incontrol artosis and the others need to play some korean terrans, they are ticking me off with the claims of how to beat it. Lol yep, and for anyone who has watched the NeoTV chinese GSL stream, the caster with the big head and glasses (小色) ladders frequently and has stomped Artosis many-a-time. The Chinese casters also think that Artosis is the one (is he?) who does the obs for the GSL games. So whenever a drop is missed or when something crucial is totally ignored, they go nuts and start bagging Artosis.
1-1-1 is known as 真善美 in Chinese. This is roughly translated as "Of the most noble virtue", obviously a huge troll on the abusive nature of the 1-1-1.
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MVP better takes this season home to the IM house! But Nestea can finally play in the GSTL and rest some now.
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dont think anybody left in this gsl that can beat MVP in a bo5 or bo7 MY BOY MVP GOT THIS!
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Go conscience terran! This guy has really, really grown on me. ^_^
I can't see him losing tbh.
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I love how honest MVP is about how strong the 1-1-1 build is. Almost enough to make me a fan!
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MVP has some really good practice partners.
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On August 25 2011 13:37 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 13:35 red4ce wrote:On August 25 2011 13:21 babylon wrote:A: I want to thank IMHorror, IMTrue, and IMLosira as well as MVPDongRaeGu, CheckPrime, and STCurious for helping me in practice. Thanks a lot to these players. Jesus Christ, MVP. MVP seems to be really popular among progamers. This is the list of players who helped prepare for MKP in the world championship finals I want to thank the following players who helped me practice: ST_Bomber,Clide,Alive,PuMa,oGsSuperNoVa,SlayerS_MMA,GanZI,IMYoDa He's the highest level bw player to switch over so far. Probably earns him a lot of respect. Oh yea, also helps that he's a chill ass dude. Boxer? Nada? July? =P
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I liked how everyone freaked out when they discovered you can wall-off with 2 bunkers on Bel'Shir xD
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On August 25 2011 16:02 imJealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 13:37 rysecake wrote:On August 25 2011 13:35 red4ce wrote:On August 25 2011 13:21 babylon wrote:A: I want to thank IMHorror, IMTrue, and IMLosira as well as MVPDongRaeGu, CheckPrime, and STCurious for helping me in practice. Thanks a lot to these players. Jesus Christ, MVP. MVP seems to be really popular among progamers. This is the list of players who helped prepare for MKP in the world championship finals I want to thank the following players who helped me practice: ST_Bomber,Clide,Alive,PuMa,oGsSuperNoVa,SlayerS_MMA,GanZI,IMYoDa He's the highest level bw player to switch over so far. Probably earns him a lot of respect. Oh yea, also helps that he's a chill ass dude. Boxer? Nada? July? =P
They're old legends, but not the best players in relative skill. By the time sc2 came out, boxer, july, and to a lesser extent nada were noobs compared to mvp in sc1.
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On August 25 2011 12:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
EG.Huk claims to have found a somewhat solid, reliable counter to it.
Source on this?
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On August 25 2011 16:27 demonik187 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 12:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
EG.Huk claims to have found a somewhat solid, reliable counter to it. Source on this?
His interview. However, he hasn't figured out anything that hasn't been seen before. It's just he believes tht with perfect micro u can hold it.
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thank you for the translation nicely done!
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On August 25 2011 16:35 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 16:27 demonik187 wrote:On August 25 2011 12:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
EG.Huk claims to have found a somewhat solid, reliable counter to it. Source on this? His interview. However, he hasn't figured out anything that hasn't been seen before. It's just he believes tht with perfect micro u can hold it.
you probably need top 3 control to hold it t.t
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Wow, DRG playing MVP on a consistent basis...yeah, no Terrans are going to beat him in MLG. I can't wait
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On August 25 2011 15:27 tomatriedes wrote: I love how honest MVP is about how strong the 1-1-1 build is. Almost enough to make me a fan!
IM players in general seem very straightforward about balance. I like it.
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On August 26 2011 16:19 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 15:27 tomatriedes wrote: I love how honest MVP is about how strong the 1-1-1 build is. Almost enough to make me a fan! IM players in general seem very straightforward about balance. I like it.
MVP has also said that he feels Terran is the weakest race...
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On August 26 2011 19:38 Dalavita wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 16:19 mierin wrote:On August 25 2011 15:27 tomatriedes wrote: I love how honest MVP is about how strong the 1-1-1 build is. Almost enough to make me a fan! IM players in general seem very straightforward about balance. I like it. MVP has also said that he feels Terran is the weakest race...
he said that ages ago, and he was speaking specifically in regard to the new, larger maps.
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I got so much respect for IMMvp and his macro style, also rejecting 1/1/1 while some terrans abuse the shit out of it.
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MVP is probably the only player that can out "mind-game" Nestea
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On August 26 2011 19:40 Sarang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 19:38 Dalavita wrote:On August 26 2011 16:19 mierin wrote:On August 25 2011 15:27 tomatriedes wrote: I love how honest MVP is about how strong the 1-1-1 build is. Almost enough to make me a fan! IM players in general seem very straightforward about balance. I like it. MVP has also said that he feels Terran is the weakest race... he said that ages ago, and he was speaking specifically in regard to the new, larger maps.
And nothing has changed about the maps since then.
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MVP being a boss and admitting 111 is to strong yet still not abusing it. He is now my favorite T .
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Pretty sure Huk hasn't found the solution. He rages all the time when he loses to it on ladder. Unless he is hiding some super duper unknown strategy (plzplz)
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it is only because MVP's reputation in macro play that his 2 bunker rush in the 2nd game worked
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