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NesTea, MVP to BlizzCon - Page 13

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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 17 2011 18:45 GMT
#241
guess who is the champion
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 17 2011 18:45 GMT
#242
On August 18 2011 03:44 HuKPOWA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 03:20 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Holy crap marineking has dropped to code A?


2 GSL's ago...


I think it was just last GSL.

+ Show Spoiler +
He's going to up and downs though after this season
minhbq299
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 18:51:06
August 17 2011 18:48 GMT
#243
Hmm
2 From each region seem fair.
But from viewer point It would be much better off If Korean get like 4 slots more from unimpressive regions like LA, RU, TW, SEA. Not to be racist, I am from SEA original myself.

The skill gap is so far away even from GSL compared to active regions like EU/NA.
Next year blizzcon should invite follow ranking point from this year event, like Football Champions League, Big Nation have higher point based on their past results thus having more slots.

Edit@ Forgot to mention Genius, why cant he defend his title. He deserve it.
SlayerS_Puzzle, oGsMC, Liquid'Hero, FXOz, ST.Parting, , NSHoseoJjakji, SlayerS_CoCa, DRG
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
August 17 2011 18:50 GMT
#244
nestea leaving korea for a tournament? say what?
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
August 17 2011 18:51 GMT
#245
Damn, nestea^^
It seems like it's getting harder and harder to beat the koreans in an event. They keep sending better and better representation
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#246
Did blizzard just announced the 1st and 2nd place of the BlizzCon?
RandomAccount#106470
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
August 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#247
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#248
On August 17 2011 15:33 Magic1264 wrote:
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On August 17 2011 15:04 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 17 2011 14:37 Magic1264 wrote:
I actually didn't like how they did the Korean invites. They make the best players from each region play each other in a very short, very volatile double elim tourney, where the best player of the region isn't necessarily going to grab the invite.

Yet for the Koreans, which is an INCREDIBLY deep talent pool, they just go ahead and pluck the top two players from the rankings of a very different tourney than the blizzard invitationals.

Its not necessarily about NesTea and MVP being very good players, but put them up against each other in several best of threes against 6 other of the best Korean players, you could end up with a different invite combination than NesTea/MVP (hell, mvp/nestea could very well have eliminated one another).


Blame it on the fact that no other tournament is run as frequently with a system of points given to each player. Statistically speaking, based on the GSL point totals Nestea and MVP SHOULD have won the qualifiers anyway (barring no rediculous upsets or them facing eachother prior). If the rest of the world had any uniform tournament point system then there probably wouldn't be any "qualfiers" and all the invitationals would simply be as "unimportant" as the Korean one.



If it was about finding the best player in each region, the EU and NA invitationals were a sore misrepresentation and hardly holds a candle to the GSL in terms of measuring the "best player."

I am not taking anything away from MVP or NesTea. I'm a big fan of each player, and I would be hard pressed to not call them among the top, if not the top players in the world.

But the Blizzard invitationals had this very "any given Sunday" feel to them. For instance, for the NA region, I don't think you could make the same argument that Select/Sheth being the best players in NA that you could for Nestea/MVP. In fact, I think the skill gap between a player like Huk is just as large from Select/Sheth than it is for NesTea and any other player.

What the invitational brought is a volatility for determining the best player in the region, and not simply going off the performance history of the player. Now MVP/NesTea are extremely good players, but do I think that someone like Polt, MKP or MC could possibly steal a Bo3 series from them, hell ya I do. I just feel they should have kept the same standard the Korean players, much like all of the other regions.


Everything you're saying is true, but that's exactly my point. The fact that the NA/Eu(well this one may actually have the 2 best players in europe)/LA/ect invites are not necessarily the best in their region is the fault of a lack of point system (such as the GSL points system), Yes the various invitationals were a sore misrepresentation of the "best player" (although again Eu can prolly be debated), its only because there was no unified point system that the "best players" from the other regions weren't invited.

Its not Blizzard's fault no where other than Korea has a point system (besides MLG which is skewed based on a variety of factors)
Feito
Profile Joined February 2011
United States65 Posts
August 17 2011 18:53 GMT
#249
Congrats to both of them for being invited.
"To be forgotten is worse than death."
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
August 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#250
I'm gonna be crazy here and say Nestea is gonna win Everything
iNcontrol, IdrA,Lz, Strifecro, Axslav, Machine, Demuslim! EG Fighting!!!~~
DivineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States128 Posts
August 17 2011 18:57 GMT
#251
Oh so Blizzard felt like announcing the Finals the Blizzcon Invitational today.
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DexVitality
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Hong Kong234 Posts
August 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#252
This is great news Is it good to see IMNesTea play outside of Korean and the GSL Really really excited...
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
August 17 2011 19:05 GMT
#253
Oh boy, di's gon be guud!
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Inters
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada29 Posts
August 17 2011 19:06 GMT
#254
JIIIIIIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 17 2011 19:07 GMT
#255
On August 17 2011 14:38 MyLastSerenade wrote:
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On August 17 2011 14:35 ch33psh33p wrote:
Nestea Vs Mvp finals at Blizzcon.

Nestea V Mvp Gsl finals in Blizzcon.

100% happening.


i feel like nestea would easily win both.

Nestea will be an even more rich man.
liftlift > tsm
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5093 Posts
August 17 2011 19:07 GMT
#256
You don't leave out the defending champion....
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
August 17 2011 19:09 GMT
#257
On August 17 2011 22:02 MattBarry wrote:
MVP has only won 1 gsl. Mlg had more Koreans than GSLWC.


How is that relevant? GSLWC had the best koreans and thats what matters. He has 2 GSL titles, regardless of how hard each one was. MVP also has the second best GSL run after Nestea. Nestea won without dropping any map, MVP won dropping only a single map (To Nestea). MVP did have a significantly harder run that season than Nestea, in terms of opponents.

The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 17 2011 19:12 GMT
#258
On August 18 2011 03:52 Huragius wrote:
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On August 17 2011 22:02 MattBarry wrote:
MVP has only won 1 gsl. Mlg had more Koreans than GSLWC.


Get your facts straight before you post something.


Think what he's getting at is MVP's 2nd championship was the world championship which isn't the same as a regular season of the gsl.

I kind of agree. I see him as more like 1 1/2 time gsl champ. GSLWC began at a ro16, with no group stage, and half code-S Koreans (not all of which were the best). But whatever, we all know MVP is gsl champion material.
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TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
August 17 2011 19:12 GMT
#259
On August 17 2011 14:34 geno wrote:
Really curious who's going to take third at blizzcon!
Hahaha exactly what I thought as well.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 19:18:26
August 17 2011 19:18 GMT
#260
Congrats Nestea.
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