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http://skillcraft.ca/ -- Go go TL, time to unite and help out! Fill it in and tell your friends!
Hailene
Profile Joined June 2011
United States80 Posts
August 12 2011 14:54 GMT
#21
I hope this ends up with something good for the eSports community! GL with the survey
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 12 2011 14:59 GMT
#22
done, good luck. I'm especially interested in if you can get the eye tracking to happen, I've thought that'd be a good idea for almost a year now.
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vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
August 12 2011 15:08 GMT
#23
I was thinking about how something like this would give starcraft 2 some public recognition if done correctly, awesome work!
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 12 2011 15:26 GMT
#24
Pretty interesting! Info and replay submitted
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
August 12 2011 15:27 GMT
#25
I'll fill this when I'm at home tonight, and try to get a few friends to participate.

Good luck!
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
August 12 2011 15:31 GMT
#26
Just any sort of replay? Like, would you discourage cheeses, or try to have replays of games lasting longer than ten minutes, or just, actually, anything??
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
August 12 2011 15:34 GMT
#27
On August 13 2011 00:31 whoopingchow wrote:
Just any sort of replay? Like, would you discourage cheeses, or try to have replays of games lasting longer than ten minutes, or just, actually, anything??



Good Question - We want games in the 10-15 min range.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
Soliduok
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada222 Posts
August 12 2011 15:35 GMT
#28
I don't see how one replay from each preson is very viable. What if they upload a replay file of them that they played their absolute best? Their absolute worst? Under the influence? Any player can tell you that their play can vary widely from day to day
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
August 12 2011 15:40 GMT
#29
On August 13 2011 00:35 Soliduok wrote:
I don't see how one replay from each preson is very viable. What if they upload a replay file of them that they played their absolute best? Their absolute worst? Under the influence? Any player can tell you that their play can vary widely from day to day

It's not about winning/losing.
Probably 90% of the submitted games are going to be wins.
Your SC2 'DNA' will not really change in a few days, what hotkeys you use, how you use your camera's, macro, micro, apm etc etc.

Doesn't really matter I guess
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
August 12 2011 15:42 GMT
#30
On August 13 2011 00:34 CrushDog5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 00:31 whoopingchow wrote:
Just any sort of replay? Like, would you discourage cheeses, or try to have replays of games lasting longer than ten minutes, or just, actually, anything??



Good Question - We want games in the 10-15 min range.


Isn't that usually just a random cheese or build order loss though?

I uploaded a 25 minute game where I thought I played well (not spectacular but I didn't make any really dumb mistakes) and eventually got out macroed.

Awesome project, by the way.
Photoshop is over-powered.
maruchan
Profile Joined June 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 15:46:57
August 12 2011 15:46 GMT
#31
I have some experience with survey studies, and no offense but, posting an open call for submissions is never going to get you the samplesize you want. If you could incentivize it somehow (ie a raffle/giveaway) and partner with someone like Husky for publicity, you would stand a better chance. Good luck though.
Sandrockcstm
Profile Joined March 2011
United States16 Posts
August 12 2011 15:53 GMT
#32
Awesome. Filled out the survey for ya . Good luck on your research!
CrushDog5
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada207 Posts
August 12 2011 15:55 GMT
#33
On August 13 2011 00:35 Soliduok wrote:
I don't see how one replay from each preson is very viable. What if they upload a replay file of them that they played their absolute best? Their absolute worst? Under the influence? Any player can tell you that their play can vary widely from day to day


Good Point.

A single game is a really a single sample from the full distribution of performance (on any particular variable) that a player might produce. If people's play varies wildly, e.g. Bronze when drunk and Masters when "in the zone", then we might have a hard time saying precisely how good a player is based on this one sample.

Ideally you'd want a perfect estimate of whatever variable you want to measure, but of course that's not easy to do. Even Blizzards matchmaking system, which is doing essentially that with skill, isn't perfect.

One of the advantages that our study will have over all the other expertise studies, is that we have the possibility to get a really large sample of players from each league, so the aggregate estimate (of, say, the mean APM of a gold level player, for instance) is likely to be pretty good, even when our ability to estimate the abilities of a single player might not be so good.

Long term, we hope to find people who are interested in participating in more detailed research and willing to give us 50 games and not just 1. Then we can have better estimates of each player, as you suggest.
SkillCraft.com - StarCraft + Science
bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
August 12 2011 15:58 GMT
#34
For 20 000 responses you need to produce some content (like how many responses you have so far) to keep peoples interest.
Tasteless: "What was it Hans Solo was frozen in? Kryptonite?" Artosis: "Lol, no. Thats the stuff that hurts Batman."
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
August 12 2011 16:00 GMT
#35
done. gogo people
NesTea <3
Anachromy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
August 12 2011 16:03 GMT
#36
On August 13 2011 00:40 Giku wrote:
Probably 90% of the submitted games are going to be wins.


I just submitted my most recent ladder match, it was however, a win.

but you bring up a good point, I'm sure there is going to be a trend of individuals who are only going to submit games that they have won.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
August 12 2011 16:03 GMT
#37
On August 13 2011 00:34 CrushDog5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 00:31 whoopingchow wrote:
Just any sort of replay? Like, would you discourage cheeses, or try to have replays of games lasting longer than ten minutes, or just, actually, anything??



Good Question - We want games in the 10-15 min range.


Ohhh, I uploaded my last replay which was a 6pool I won. Oh well too late to change now.
SlySly
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 12 2011 16:04 GMT
#38
Done!
Really hope to see everyone else do it too, so we can see the results!
tubasteve
Profile Joined March 2011
15 Posts
August 12 2011 16:05 GMT
#39
You're going to have a lot of selection bias in this data since you aren't using a random sample.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
August 12 2011 16:07 GMT
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