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On July 26 2011 18:10 ooni wrote:
See the thing is
Polt's TvP
MVP's TvT
MMA's TvZ
Are pretty insane, however they are great at those match up and kind of mediocre in the others. We need a solid mechanic player who can mimic the above play styles.
MVP is slumping hard in TvT, but we haven't see enough of his TvZ lately to judge.
It would be Bomber TvT if he hadn't lost to Byun, or Polt if he hasn't lost to Bomber.
However MMA is not the best TvZ at all lol. There is no best TvZ until someone manages to beat DongRaeGu in Bo5. Mvp we are waiting for you at MLG 
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In terms of achievement it's MVP without a doubt. In terms of skill and gameplay at the moment I'd go with Bomber for his TvT and TvP and sC for his TvZ.
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I think Polt, Bomber, and MMA have the most potential. Sometimes Terran is like an arms race though, everyone constantly getting better and adapting to new builds and playstyles, some players better suited to one FotM or the other.
One thing is for sure though, no one at this point is even close to Nestea-level dominance yet.
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There's no clear frontrunner for Terran King.
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Hmm this is a much better question right now.
I would say there is no clear cut king.
MVP is the closest we've had to one but he's just not as dominating as Nestea so I don't forsee a resurgence from him. I would have argued for Bomber before his losses to Byun. His TvZ also doesn't seem to be up to snuff.
Idea: GOM, MAKE A TvT tournament!
Have MVP, MKP, Puma, MMA, Optimus, Bomber, Nada, and sC play an 8 man tournament to determine the king of TvT. All bo7s.
I would probably get tired of it after 2 games but I would love to know the results.
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On July 26 2011 18:01 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 17:58 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 26 2011 17:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 26 2011 17:25 Fionn wrote:
There is no king. If Poltimus had gotten through Bomber and then beaten Byun, the throne would be his. MVP had the throne for a long time, but he's been slumping in the GSL/GSTL for a while. Bomber had his chance to take it by winning the tournament and beating Nestea, but he blew a 2-0 lead in the quarterfinals. SC hasn't won any titles. Nada is very consistent, but has never even been to a finals. MarineKing is slumping hard at the moment. Byun got 3-0'd in his only semifinals. Puma is a weird case; he won NASL, but he's never even qualified for Code A. He beat MKP and Poltimus in the GSTL, but he' still needs to get into the GSL or rack up a ton more foreign titles against top players.
Right now, I would probably say, with the closest chance of taking over the throne:
1) Bomber
2) Poltimus
3) MVP
4) Puma
5) MarineKing
6) Nada
7) MMA
8) Byun
9) SC
I really like that list, and I think it's fair, but nada is still too high up imo. I think everyone below Nada has a shot to take out some great players, but Nada is not capable of beating them, and in fact he gets crushed by them. Nada is consistent in beating lower level players in code S though. And what have MMA, Byun and SC done? MMA won MLG and fell out of Code A. Byun Code A finalist and Code S semifinalist. SC finished second in the LG tournament, and was a semi finalist in Code S. Nada has been the most consistent Terran player in GSL. Nada definitely could beat all three of them. Nada could beat anyone on that list and your kidding yourself if you think he can't. Is that ironic? Because NaDa got outplayed hardcore by Byun...
So beating someone in one bo3 automatically makes him the better player...
On July 26 2011 18:00 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 17:58 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 26 2011 17:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:On July 26 2011 17:25 Fionn wrote:
There is no king. If Poltimus had gotten through Bomber and then beaten Byun, the throne would be his. MVP had the throne for a long time, but he's been slumping in the GSL/GSTL for a while. Bomber had his chance to take it by winning the tournament and beating Nestea, but he blew a 2-0 lead in the quarterfinals. SC hasn't won any titles. Nada is very consistent, but has never even been to a finals. MarineKing is slumping hard at the moment. Byun got 3-0'd in his only semifinals. Puma is a weird case; he won NASL, but he's never even qualified for Code A. He beat MKP and Poltimus in the GSTL, but he' still needs to get into the GSL or rack up a ton more foreign titles against top players.
Right now, I would probably say, with the closest chance of taking over the throne:
1) Bomber
2) Poltimus
3) MVP
4) Puma
5) MarineKing
6) Nada
7) MMA
8) Byun
9) SC
I really like that list, and I think it's fair, but nada is still too high up imo. I think everyone below Nada has a shot to take out some great players, but Nada is not capable of beating them, and in fact he gets crushed by them. Nada is consistent in beating lower level players in code S though. And what have MMA, Byun and SC done? MMA won MLG and fell out of Code A. Byun Code A finalist and Code S semifinalist. SC finished second in the LG tournament, and was a semi finalist in Code S. Nada has been the most consistent Terran player in GSL. Nada definitely could beat all three of them. Nada could beat anyone on that list and your kidding yourself if you think he can't. You pretty much made his argument for him by listing their accomplishments: they've all gotten closer to a championship than Nada :p
But Nada has been closer to the championship more often. And Nada has made it to Code S Semi Finals so the really haven't gotten closer to a championship.
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I loved PuMa at NASL. His games were really nice and his reaction after he won, was just something i never saw at a SC 2 player. The crowd gone wild after his win vs MC and thats how it should be. Thats why I would consider him the King of Terran at the moment.
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The most consistent one if MarineKing but atm I can't see a "King of terran" you need someone like Nestea to say that. He's SO good
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There's no king.
Why?
Because the Emperor rules, and that position is held for life.
![[image loading]](http://s.sk-gaming.com/image/image/a44b1a512cbb1bd7m.jpg)
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On July 26 2011 18:12 phisku wrote:
ThorZain will show that he can at least be the prince terran once he'll be in korea.
I thought prince terran means the 2nd best terran, which ThorZain cannot be. I can see at least 5 Korean terrans beat Thorzain without much problem.
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MVP and Bomber are options but the Terran who beat MVP last week and the Terran who knocked Bomber out of GSL July aren't even options for the poll.
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There is no Terran king currently.
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The Terran king is Nestea obviously.
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Something is missing in the OP!
Has someone thought about this badboy yet?
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/thumb/a/a8/Demuslimdreamhack.png/200px-Demuslimdreamhack.png)
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On July 26 2011 18:22 Horse...falcon wrote:
Hmm this is a much better question right now.
I would say there is no clear cut king.
MVP is the closest we've had to one but he's just not as dominating as Nestea so I don't forsee a resurgence from him. I would have argued for Bomber before his losses to Byun. His TvZ also doesn't seem to be up to snuff.
Idea: GOM, MAKE A TvT tournament!
Have MVP, MKP, Puma, MMA, Optimus, Bomber, Nada, and sC play an 8 man tournament to determine the king of TvT. All bo7s.
I would probably get tired of it after 2 games but I would love to know the results.
All TvTs would take just as long as a 64 man super tourney.
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Nice writeup, but please, for the love of whatever deity you prefer, format all the players the same!
I dont think there is currently a king. But lots of princes.
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Terran is the most popular race among top Korean talent. However there isn't a clear number one at the moment.
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On July 26 2011 18:43 h41fgod wrote:
Nice writeup, but please, for the love of whatever deity you prefer, format all the players the same!
I dont think there is currently a king. But lots of princes.
Sorry, Brian and I typed up our parts separately and we formatted the players differently
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There is no king; no Terran dominates as MVP did even a few months ago. The big question IMO is if the throne will be taken over by one of the known 'elite' Terran or if a second-tier or relative unknown will come through.
If I have to pick a player for a Bo1 against Satan for my soul, though, I'm going with MMA. I really think MMA needs to solve his consistency issues.
I really, really hope QXC's amazing all-kill against IM isn't just a fluke, and will mark a return to his impressive dominance during the beta.
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