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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:08 Meteora.GB wrote: Ah yes, the MMA fans are now claiming that he is the best Terran. I don't remember many people claiming that when Polt won a championship. Its too early to say that he is the Terran King at the moment. MVP didn't really seem to play at a level which I expect him to, he always had mistakes that set him back from having any real presence on the map (a lack of missile ring and not leap frogging tanks). However there isn't anything that I can take away from MMA's win, he played brilliantly. For me MVP is still the best, but we'll have to see in the upcoming seasons. Remember folks, things fluctuate a lot in SC2. Once MC was the best Protoss (and still arguably is; either that or the leadership position seems really shaky) but he dropped into the oblivion that is Code B. MVP looked invincible back in January, then dropped off and then made his comeback some many months later. Nestea? He's a god, he doesn't crushes nerds for life.  Polt is nothing special though. You can watch Polt play and unless it's one of his godly TvP timing pushes you are like well this is just another Terran on the block, then you look at players like MMA and Mvp (among others) and you're like this guy just understands the way the game works on a higher level and is really someone special. | ||
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
Yes, yes, he lost this GSL Finals...but look at the path he's been ripping up. No one has dominated as much as he has been. Everyone loses games. MVP is no different. But he's still been the most dominating T we've seen. | ||
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dib
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:14 Raiznhell wrote: Polt is nothing special though. You can watch Polt play and unless it's one of his godly TvP timing pushes you are like well this is just another Terran on the block, then you look at players like MMA and Mvp (among others) and you're like this guy just understands the way the game works on a higher level and is really someone special. Unfortunately while Polt is "nothing special", he ate MMA in the Super Tournament in a sweep. Yeah, I guess I can agree that Polt doesn't really seem like much from a glance (I think he has more subtle attributes which aren't as easy to tell, such as imo his decision making and marine splits), but he's still a champion. I just hate it how when someone wins one championship, everyone claims they are either the best player or the next best thing (see HuK + Stephano). /end rant | ||
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
MVP is still the most accomplished terran at this point, I wish people would just wait till the game evolves a lot more. | ||
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Shaok
297 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:11 Asha` wrote: 3 time champion and now 1 time runner up and suddenly he's not the best Terran because he finally lost a finals (to someone who got 4-0'd in their only other finals appearance)? lol. He was 4-1'd by this "someone who got 4-0'd in their only other finals appearance." | ||
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Thebbeuttiffulland
Brazil288 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:24 Lorch wrote: lol @ the people voting for mma now: Wow he beat MVP in one bo7 in one out of three matchups these two have to play. That totally means he is better. MVP is still the most accomplished terran at this point, I wish people would just wait till the game evolves a lot more. long wait untill void of legacy + 1-2 years | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:21 Meteora.GB wrote: Unfortunately while Polt is "nothing special", he ate MMA in the Super Tournament in a sweep. Yeah, I guess I can agree that Polt doesn't really seem like much from a glance (I think he has more subtle attributes which aren't as easy to tell, such as imo his decision making and marine splits), but he's still a champion. I just hate it how when someone wins one championship, everyone claims they are either the best player or the next best thing (see HuK + Stephano). /end rant People have been saying Stephano was the next big thing before IPL. Polt is insanely good TvT. His cheese opening are amazing and if he preps a lot (busy with school atm) he could claim another GSL. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:28 TheOne85 wrote: He was 4-1'd by this "someone who got 4-0'd in their only other finals appearance." That's kind of my point? Woah he lost decisively so he's no longer the best... ...oh wait, the guy he lost to got even more comprehensively hammered in his other finals appearance. It's crazy to think being runner up in one GSL finals out of 4 suddenly makes him a lesser player than the guy he lost to this time around lol. It certainly made him the lesser player at this GSL, but "the best terran" isn't something decided on the weight of a single match in one single season. | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:36 Eppa! wrote: People have been saying Stephano was the next big thing before IPL. Polt is insanely good TvT. His cheese opening are amazing and if he preps a lot (busy with school atm) he could claim another GSL. Well, Stephano is an exception I suppose. I've been hearing that before. Just when he won IPL there was an outburst claims of "best player". I should correct my statement as just best player instead of best up and coming player (as MMA has been before in the GSTL). | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:08 Meteora.GB wrote: Ah yes, the MMA fans are now claiming that he is the best Terran. I don't remember many people claiming that when Polt won a championship. Polt is the best terran <3. He won the most important StarCraft 2 tournament that has happened. But the "king" of the terran and the best terran in the world are two completely different things ; of course MarineKing has to be the king ! :D | ||
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Modeath
United States68 Posts
On October 22 2011 18:11 Asha` wrote: 3 time champion and now 1 time runner up and suddenly he's not the best Terran because he finally lost a finals (to someone who got 4-0'd in their only other finals appearance)? lol. More like someone who wasnt anywhere on the radar or the scene till like 4-5 months ago and in that short period of time people have watched him grow and mature as a sc2 player to where he is now with 2 GSL finals and 1 win in that short time. When he got 4-0ed he wasnt the king of terran but after last night Im not sure that he isnt. Kings come and go and MMA is now playing the best sc2 of his life and honestly is he the king of terrans idk but he sure looked the part at blizzcon. | ||
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ContactKilla
United States194 Posts
Yes he did work MVP HARD in the GSL final but people are still not giving MMA his victory. He earned it for sure. MVP made many mistakes and MMA was just better. Im not saying MVP is at all a bad terran, He is truely amazing, but as far as progression, MMA gets better every single day. | ||
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Terminal
United Kingdom2109 Posts
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
Flash doesn't get beaten regularly by no terran, much less easily, in my honest opinion there is no such thing as a terran king. There are good terrans for certain matchups though. | ||
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
On October 22 2011 21:32 rareh wrote: To the people that perceive me to be a MMA fanboy, all i am saying is if a terran crushes another guy(terran) without much problem on a regular basis, then how can the other be considered a terran king ? Flash doesn't get beaten regularly by no terran, much less easily, in my honest opinion there is no such thing as a terran king. There are good terrans for certain matchups though. Then obviously MMA can't be king of anything because he gets roftstomped every time he meets Polt. Not only are they rolfstomps, MMA looks completely helpless. It's not clear whether MMA has a significant edge against MVP. You can't count online tournaments as significant wins and MVP beat MMA 2-1 in MLG. Taeja is #1 elo in Korean but he's basically a nobody in GSL accomplishments. | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
On October 22 2011 21:38 vnlegend wrote: Then obviously MMA can't be king of anything because he gets roftstomped every time he meets Polt. Not only are they rolfstomps, MMA looks completely helpless. It's not clear whether MMA has a significant edge against MVP. You can't count online tournaments as significant wins and MVP beat MMA 2-1 in MLG. Taeja is #1 elo in Korean but he's basically a nobody in GSL accomplishments. 12-6 is a one sided edge, especially when he makes mvp look hopeless.(same way polt does when he faces mma). Online doesn't count if its in us and its a us vs a korean, but it was korean vs korean so it counts since they had similar ping(oh and btw all tournaments are online since sc2 still has no lan). I agree about polt, that is why i think there is no king, polt read the mma book, mvp should ask to borrow it so he can beat mma  For zerg nestea has no rival, but in regards to terran and toss its not possible to say. | ||
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nooboon
2602 Posts
edit: MVP is still the king but he is not so high and mighty any more | ||
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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