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On October 22 2011 16:20 red4ce wrote:Did you? Game 1 MVP fails to scout MMA's proxies, dies Game 2 MVP gets his siege tanks caught unsieged, dies Game 3: BO win Game 4: Some of the worst banshee control I've ever seen from MVP. Game 5: MVP's best game. Too bad he was so behind from MMA's first attack that it ultimately didn't matter. MVP is still the terran king, but he unquestionably was off form in the finals.
And he wasn't expanding like he always does -.-
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As I've said before people scoffed at me saying that MVP was invincible in a BOX TvT, every top 10 TvTer can take games and series off each other depending on the day.
Also, Polt is the MarauderKing. Fffft.
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Well, in my opinion, I still think qxc is the Terran King. He showed this by beating MVP along with THE ENTIRE IM TEAM in GSTL, while he was on a break from school. If MVP is the terran king, and qxc beat MVP, obviously qxc is really the terran king.
Lol jkkk :D
In all seriousness, MVP is still the king. You lose sometimes, one series doesn't decide anything. MMA is probably the 2nd best Terran in the world, and top 4 players probably in the world, but MVP has just shown result after result after result, and him losing one GSL finals doesn't discount his three previous ones, nor the fact that he got to the finals in the first place.
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mma needs to dominate in gsl for some time to be called terran king imo.
and I'm very happy that he became champion today, gl to him in next mlg
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On October 22 2011 16:21 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Im not taking credit away from mma he played great
On October 22 2011 16:21 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
i just know mvp didnt play at 100%
That statement does nothing BUT take credit from MMA.
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I always thought that mech play was way too difficult to use/ immobile for it to be feasibly played better than bio, especially with the cost-effectiveness/dps of marauders and bio. I see how it could be more efficient, but it seems that the level and consistency of play required is way too high, even for the "King of Terran".
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It's obviously marine king I mean honestly he has king in his name!
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On October 22 2011 16:29 DeathIncarna wrote:
I always thought that mech play was way too difficult to use/ immobile for it to be feasibly played better than bio, especially with the cost-effectiveness/dps of marauders and bio. I see how it could be more efficient, but it seems that the level and consistency of play required is way too high, even for the "King of Terran".
Mech is really, really unforgiving. Make just a few mistakes and it's, as MKP has said before, absolutely "pathetic." It's no wonder that very, very few Terrans choose to mech much. Ryung and MVP are the big mechers, and Bomber mechs like ... a quarter of his games depending on who he's playing and on what maps he's playing. I just feel that playing mech is kind of going for a calculated risk; you're basically making a statement that you're going to play absolutely perfect, and if you don't, you're going to die.
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On October 22 2011 16:10 Silidons wrote:maruders are the new terran king Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 16:08 iky43210 wrote:On October 22 2011 16:04 Azzur wrote:GSL final spoiler - what a pity that such an interesting discussion needs to be done in spoilers lol + Show Spoiler +On October 15 2011 00:41 Azzur wrote:Looks like the minority spoiler police is still in force, so I have to use spoilers to discuss: + Show Spoiler +Looks like we get a dream GSL finals. If MVP wins, then he no doubt will be the terran king for a while and may, dare I say it, be on his way to bonjwa status. If MMA wins, then I feel that the crown prince will fail to unseat MVP, but there will be enough doubt.
These 2 haven't met in a serious match before - the MLG finals was played in low stress since MMA has already secured Code S. And there was some online tournament which in my opinion doesn't count. Also, MVP vs Bomber, Code A finals should not be used as a benchmark because that is a low pressure match. If that match was for a Code S spot, it would count for far more.
MVP is a big game player and MMA already showed weakness in a big final (i.e. Super Tournament). However, MVP is not a "timing attack" player, so the games should be fairly epic. Looking forward to a very even mech vs bio contest. Quoting myself on what I said earlier - I still think that MVP is considered the best terran, but by losing 4-1 (in albeit epic games), crown prince MMA has taken great steps in dethroning him. mvp played all day already, he was not in the best shape u think mma didnt play any games all day? mvp was just getting warmed up for it
why would mma be playing games today. He's not in the blizzcon tournament
Immvp played sloppy, he didn't even get sensor tower as mech when he usually do against bio.
2 out of the 4 games he was completely contained he could even get past second base
Also overkills on vikings constantly
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I Think MMA outplayed MVP today but MVP still has more accomplishments under his belt. Due to his success that wasn't long ago I would still consider him the best Terran(best player?) In the world but I wouldn't say he's levels above everyone
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King took a major blow today.
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On October 22 2011 16:39 nakedsurfer wrote:
I Think MMA outplayed MVP today but MVP still has more accomplishments under his belt. Due to his success that wasn't long ago I would still consider him the best Terran(best player?) In the world but I wouldn't say he's levels above everyone
Yeah, that's pretty much the situation. 
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Amazing play tonight by MMA, but still gotta put MvP as the overall King and probably the best current sc2 player in the world.
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On October 22 2011 16:27 MattO1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 16:21 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Im not taking credit away from mma he played great
Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 16:21 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
i just know mvp didnt play at 100% That statement does nothing BUT take credit from MMA.
Yeah it's true but MVP definitely didn't play at 100% of his potential. But neither did MMA, he was dropping way too much and you noticed it especially in the late game of the last game.
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Dunno when MMA has 2 BO5's and 1 BO7 to Mvp's how many series over him again? You can consider him better. More consistent? Maybe. Around longer?? Been around TONS longer. So i would hope he had more accomplishments. As of today MMA is better tho at TvT and TvZ only MU Mvp might take is TvP.
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Or we can look at how many GSL's they actually been in to the amount they actually won? Since Mvp has been in code S every season but how many 1? I think MMA's Championship win rate is a little better.
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MVP is still the Terran King, but MMA has served notice that he's after that crown.
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MVP. one Bo7 doesn't change a damn thing rofl
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On October 22 2011 16:45 RealReality wrote:
Dunno when MMA has 2 BO5's and 1 BO7 to Mvp's how many series over him again? You can consider him better. More consistent? Maybe. Around longer?? Been around TONS longer. So i would hope he had more accomplishments. As of today MMA is better tho at TvT and TvZ only MU Mvp might take is TvP.
Lol, no. MVP's TvZ > MMA's. It's much, much more stable than MMA's TvZ ever was, in any case.
They both are borderline mediocre in TvP, to be honest. Best TvPers are Polt and Bomber. Taeja's also really good at it, though he hasn't really shown much of it lately. (And Puma, if you want to include him.)
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