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ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
October 22 2011 07:12 GMT
#561
On October 22 2011 16:08 MattO1337 wrote:
Did you even watch the matches? MVP played amazing, MMA just played better.


Are you serious? MVP was so sloppy the entire series. He threw game 2 away by roaming around unsieged and getting caught. He got dropped so many times in game 5 and was still unprepared every time. He looked terrible.

It probably seemed less obvious how bad he was playing because Tastosis are usually more critical of bad play than they were today.
SovietHammer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States166 Posts
October 22 2011 07:13 GMT
#562
On October 22 2011 16:08 MattO1337 wrote:
IMMVP = MachineKing
MKP = MarineKing
SlayerSMMA= MarauderKing
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 16:08 iky43210 wrote:
On October 22 2011 16:04 Azzur wrote:
GSL final spoiler - what a pity that such an interesting discussion needs to be done in spoilers lol
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 15 2011 00:41 Azzur wrote:
Looks like the minority spoiler police is still in force, so I have to use spoilers to discuss:
+ Show Spoiler +
Looks like we get a dream GSL finals. If MVP wins, then he no doubt will be the terran king for a while and may, dare I say it, be on his way to bonjwa status. If MMA wins, then I feel that the crown prince will fail to unseat MVP, but there will be enough doubt.

These 2 haven't met in a serious match before - the MLG finals was played in low stress since MMA has already secured Code S. And there was some online tournament which in my opinion doesn't count. Also, MVP vs Bomber, Code A finals should not be used as a benchmark because that is a low pressure match. If that match was for a Code S spot, it would count for far more.

MVP is a big game player and MMA already showed weakness in a big final (i.e. Super Tournament). However, MVP is not a "timing attack" player, so the games should be fairly epic. Looking forward to a very even mech vs bio contest.

Quoting myself on what I said earlier - I still think that MVP is considered the best terran, but by losing 4-1 (in albeit epic games), crown prince MMA has taken great steps in dethroning him.


mvp played all day already, he was not in the best shape

Did you even watch the matches? MVP played amazing, MMA just played better.


I'm gonna disagree with you here. MVP made mistakes in every game in the set. In top form, mvp doesn't really make mistakes, or at least to the degree he was making tonight. Not to take the win away from mma, it clearly shows mvp is far from bonjwa status and mma is in the conservation for top terran.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 22 2011 07:13 GMT
#563
On October 22 2011 16:07 juksan wrote:
gsl spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +
mvp still is terran king

+ Show Spoiler +
His play was so one dimensional outside the all-in game he won. The games read like: earlyexpomech(BoLoss) + bansheetomech + all-in + earlyexpomech + bansheetomech

He's still the strongest terran. I don't know if MMA will deny that, just as Bomber did when he beat MVP in Code A. But the play today was so standard that I wonder whether he'll hold his throne.

To cite Game of Thrones: MVP is starting to be cut by the iron throne. He may not be the true king

MMA has to dominate more solidly for the throne. If he had won IPL3 and AOL (two very recent tournaments) perhaps I'd argue it, but his recent record has not been totally dominating.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
October 22 2011 07:14 GMT
#564
MVP played so horribly that series, I actually forgot MVP was playing for a moment. He was really drained from his Blizzcon tourney games earlier in the day. It was really obvious.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
October 22 2011 07:16 GMT
#565
Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp.......
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
SovietHammer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States166 Posts
October 22 2011 07:18 GMT
#566
On October 22 2011 16:16 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp.......


I feel like this is a bad position to take, very self fulfilling. If mvp wins blizzcon, then ill be ok discounting this loss.
RealReality
Profile Joined August 2011
44 Posts
October 22 2011 07:19 GMT
#567
Lol at the excuses. MMA is better live with it.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
October 22 2011 07:20 GMT
#568
And the trolls come in. Sorry guys 1 gsl title does not take away the 3 mvp already has. MMA played better, mvp was sloppy as shit today, and mma definitely deserved to win, but stop with this bullshit already.
The Notorious Winkles
RealReality
Profile Joined August 2011
44 Posts
October 22 2011 07:20 GMT
#569
Way better to watch also. Boring generic terran's are a dime a dozen.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 22 2011 07:20 GMT
#570

Did you even watch the matches? MVP played amazing, MMA just played better.


Did you?

Game 1 MVP fails to scout MMA's proxies, dies
Game 2 MVP gets his siege tanks caught unsieged, dies
Game 3: BO win
Game 4: Some of the worst banshee control I've ever seen from MVP.
Game 5: MVP's best game. Too bad he was so behind from MMA's first attack that it ultimately didn't matter.

MVP is still the terran king, but he unquestionably was off form in the finals.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
October 22 2011 07:21 GMT
#571
On October 22 2011 16:18 SovietHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 16:16 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp.......


I feel like this is a bad position to take, very self fulfilling. If mvp wins blizzcon, then ill be ok discounting this loss.


How is it a bad position Mvp didnt play like he normally does he made mistake he normally does not he took risk he normally doesnt..... Im not taking credit away from mma he played great i just know mvp didnt play at 100%
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 22 2011 07:21 GMT
#572
On October 22 2011 16:18 SovietHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 16:16 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp.......


I feel like this is a bad position to take, very self fulfilling. If mvp wins blizzcon, then ill be ok discounting this loss.


I don't think the loss should be discounted on grounds of excuses. Sure, they might be valid. But players do have to endure these harsh schedules at time, and when under that pressure if they can still dominate, then they are the king.

If MVP was truly a cut above, fatigue wouldn't be enough. As it is, I think the arguement is that though MVP is probably the strongest Terran player, he is not without flaws and not sitting far enough above to be king.

It's more like he's on a council and has the most land and biggest army, but other councilors are scheming and might have just as much land and army.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
October 22 2011 07:21 GMT
#573
this statement needs to be reiterated everywhere:

form is temporary, class is permanent

this gsl changes nothing in terms of who sits at the top :p
IMMvp #1 :)
Msrobinson
Profile Joined October 2010
United States138 Posts
October 22 2011 07:21 GMT
#574
Poor MarineKing, 2nd place again. Gotta show this son of a gun some love.
The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
October 22 2011 07:22 GMT
#575
On October 22 2011 16:19 RealReality wrote:
Lol at the excuses. MMA is better live with it.


go back to silver -.-
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
RealReality
Profile Joined August 2011
44 Posts
October 22 2011 07:23 GMT
#576
Mvp got made to look bad by MMA cry fan boys. Mvp has never done that to any lesser players let alone someone "better".
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 07:39:31
October 22 2011 07:23 GMT
#577
I don't think it's fair to MMA when people say that + Show Spoiler +
he won just because MVP didn't play like himself.
Well, that may actually be true but the question is why did he play like that? + Show Spoiler +
Did losing the first game affect him that much and made him feel mortal?
I don't know. IMO, MVP played well but made mistakes that MMA took advantage of. + Show Spoiler +
And that's why MMA won and he surely deserved that.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 22 2011 07:23 GMT
#578
On October 22 2011 16:08 MattO1337 wrote:
IMMVP = MachineKing
MKP = MarineKing
SlayerSMMA= MarauderKing

IMMVP = IMMechking. get it? I'm Meching? LOlz!
vandelayindustries
Profile Joined August 2011
United States290 Posts
October 22 2011 07:24 GMT
#579
MMA beat MVP in two Bo5s in the GSPA as well, not sure if this was a fluke at all
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
October 22 2011 07:25 GMT
#580
On October 22 2011 16:20 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +

Did you even watch the matches? MVP played amazing, MMA just played better.


Did you?

Game 1 MVP fails to scout MMA's proxies, dies
Game 2 MVP gets his siege tanks caught unsieged, dies
Game 3: BO win
Game 4: Some of the worst banshee control I've ever seen from MVP.
Game 5: MVP's best game. Too bad he was so behind from MMA's first attack that it ultimately didn't matter.

MVP is still the terran king, but he unquestionably was off form in the finals.

lol at your sig.
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