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On October 22 2011 16:08 MattO1337 wrote:
Did you even watch the matches? MVP played amazing, MMA just played better.
Are you serious? MVP was so sloppy the entire series. He threw game 2 away by roaming around unsieged and getting caught. He got dropped so many times in game 5 and was still unprepared every time. He looked terrible.
It probably seemed less obvious how bad he was playing because Tastosis are usually more critical of bad play than they were today.
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On October 22 2011 16:08 MattO1337 wrote:IMMVP = MachineKing MKP = MarineKing SlayerSMMA= MarauderKing Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 16:08 iky43210 wrote:On October 22 2011 16:04 Azzur wrote:GSL final spoiler - what a pity that such an interesting discussion needs to be done in spoilers lol + Show Spoiler +On October 15 2011 00:41 Azzur wrote:Looks like the minority spoiler police is still in force, so I have to use spoilers to discuss: + Show Spoiler +Looks like we get a dream GSL finals. If MVP wins, then he no doubt will be the terran king for a while and may, dare I say it, be on his way to bonjwa status. If MMA wins, then I feel that the crown prince will fail to unseat MVP, but there will be enough doubt.
These 2 haven't met in a serious match before - the MLG finals was played in low stress since MMA has already secured Code S. And there was some online tournament which in my opinion doesn't count. Also, MVP vs Bomber, Code A finals should not be used as a benchmark because that is a low pressure match. If that match was for a Code S spot, it would count for far more.
MVP is a big game player and MMA already showed weakness in a big final (i.e. Super Tournament). However, MVP is not a "timing attack" player, so the games should be fairly epic. Looking forward to a very even mech vs bio contest. Quoting myself on what I said earlier - I still think that MVP is considered the best terran, but by losing 4-1 (in albeit epic games), crown prince MMA has taken great steps in dethroning him. mvp played all day already, he was not in the best shape Did you even watch the matches? MVP played amazing, MMA just played better.
I'm gonna disagree with you here. MVP made mistakes in every game in the set. In top form, mvp doesn't really make mistakes, or at least to the degree he was making tonight. Not to take the win away from mma, it clearly shows mvp is far from bonjwa status and mma is in the conservation for top terran.
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+ Show Spoiler +His play was so one dimensional outside the all-in game he won. The games read like: earlyexpomech(BoLoss) + bansheetomech + all-in + earlyexpomech + bansheetomech
He's still the strongest terran. I don't know if MMA will deny that, just as Bomber did when he beat MVP in Code A. But the play today was so standard that I wonder whether he'll hold his throne.
To cite Game of Thrones: MVP is starting to be cut by the iron throne. He may not be the true king
MMA has to dominate more solidly for the throne. If he had won IPL3 and AOL (two very recent tournaments) perhaps I'd argue it, but his recent record has not been totally dominating.
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MVP played so horribly that series, I actually forgot MVP was playing for a moment. He was really drained from his Blizzcon tourney games earlier in the day. It was really obvious.
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Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp.......
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On October 22 2011 16:16 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp.......
I feel like this is a bad position to take, very self fulfilling. If mvp wins blizzcon, then ill be ok discounting this loss.
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Lol at the excuses. MMA is better live with it.
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And the trolls come in. Sorry guys 1 gsl title does not take away the 3 mvp already has. MMA played better, mvp was sloppy as shit today, and mma definitely deserved to win, but stop with this bullshit already.
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Way better to watch also. Boring generic terran's are a dime a dozen.
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Did you even watch the matches? MVP played amazing, MMA just played better.
Did you?
Game 1 MVP fails to scout MMA's proxies, dies
Game 2 MVP gets his siege tanks caught unsieged, dies
Game 3: BO win
Game 4: Some of the worst banshee control I've ever seen from MVP.
Game 5: MVP's best game. Too bad he was so behind from MMA's first attack that it ultimately didn't matter.
MVP is still the terran king, but he unquestionably was off form in the finals.
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On October 22 2011 16:18 SovietHammer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 16:16 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp....... I feel like this is a bad position to take, very self fulfilling. If mvp wins blizzcon, then ill be ok discounting this loss.
How is it a bad position Mvp didnt play like he normally does he made mistake he normally does not he took risk he normally doesnt..... Im not taking credit away from mma he played great i just know mvp didnt play at 100%
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On October 22 2011 16:18 SovietHammer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 16:16 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Its funny how people just switched sides...... But the only reason mma won is because mvp didnt play like mvp....... I feel like this is a bad position to take, very self fulfilling. If mvp wins blizzcon, then ill be ok discounting this loss.
I don't think the loss should be discounted on grounds of excuses. Sure, they might be valid. But players do have to endure these harsh schedules at time, and when under that pressure if they can still dominate, then they are the king.
If MVP was truly a cut above, fatigue wouldn't be enough. As it is, I think the arguement is that though MVP is probably the strongest Terran player, he is not without flaws and not sitting far enough above to be king.
It's more like he's on a council and has the most land and biggest army, but other councilors are scheming and might have just as much land and army.
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this statement needs to be reiterated everywhere:
form is temporary, class is permanent
this gsl changes nothing in terms of who sits at the top :p
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Poor MarineKing, 2nd place again.  Gotta show this son of a gun some love.
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On October 22 2011 16:19 RealReality wrote:
Lol at the excuses. MMA is better live with it.
go back to silver -.-
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Mvp got made to look bad by MMA cry fan boys. Mvp has never done that to any lesser players let alone someone "better".
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I don't think it's fair to MMA when people say that + Show Spoiler +he won just because MVP didn't play like himself. Did losing the first game affect him that much and made him feel mortal? And that's why MMA won and he surely deserved that.
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On October 22 2011 16:08 MattO1337 wrote:
IMMVP = MachineKing
MKP = MarineKing
SlayerSMMA= MarauderKing
IMMVP = IMMechking. get it? I'm Meching? LOlz!
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MMA beat MVP in two Bo5s in the GSPA as well, not sure if this was a fluke at all
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On October 22 2011 16:20 red4ce wrote:Did you? Game 1 MVP fails to scout MMA's proxies, dies Game 2 MVP gets his siege tanks caught unsieged, dies Game 3: BO win Game 4: Some of the worst banshee control I've ever seen from MVP. Game 5: MVP's best game. Too bad he was so behind from MMA's first attack that it ultimately didn't matter. MVP is still the terran king, but he unquestionably was off form in the finals.
lol at your sig. 
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