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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 26 2011 15:06 GMT
#281
Mvp wins GSL this month and I will call him the king.

Bomber I feel... Is better than him, even though he has had bad results for the most part.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
August 26 2011 15:07 GMT
#282
MVP forever and always
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
rigelq
Profile Joined May 2010
United States230 Posts
August 26 2011 15:07 GMT
#283
The one. The only. SlayerS_Boxer
gentile
Profile Joined August 2007
Switzerland594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 15:08:12
August 26 2011 15:07 GMT
#284
BOXER is and WILL ALWAYs BE..stop the blasphemic shit..gg above me, same idea same time! you rock.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 15:09:39
August 26 2011 15:09 GMT
#285
On August 27 2011 00:07 rigelq wrote:
The one. The only. SlayerS_Boxer


You..... are...... my hero.........

Edit: But you know what? After BoxeR's SEXY MLG performance, I really want to see NaDa shine in Raleigh this time
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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aFganFlyTrap
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia212 Posts
August 26 2011 15:10 GMT
#286
On July 26 2011 17:13 hyptonic wrote:
MVP and MarineKing have been in a bit of a slump recently but I'd still say they are at the top with Polt/Bomber/sC in a tier below them



so MVP crushing MLG and taking first place and MKP crushing sase 2-0 in the CPL china finals is a slump? i think you missed the boat by a month or 2 on their "slumps".
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 26 2011 15:11 GMT
#287
MVP always #1.
God Bless
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
August 26 2011 15:12 GMT
#288
MVP is the best right now, but I wouldn't say the king.
There is too many terrans close to him, he needs to be unquestionably the right bet on a Bo3 in order to be the king.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 26 2011 15:16 GMT
#289
As much as I love NaDa, his consistency is great but personally I don't think that his GSTL or his GSL accomplishments amount to being a Terran King yet. I mean he hasn't scored any AKs and he hasn't gone closer than Ro4 in the GSL.
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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
August 26 2011 15:16 GMT
#290
On August 27 2011 00:10 aFganFlyTrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 17:13 hyptonic wrote:
MVP and MarineKing have been in a bit of a slump recently but I'd still say they are at the top with Polt/Bomber/sC in a tier below them



so MVP crushing MLG and taking first place and MKP crushing sase 2-0 in the CPL china finals is a slump? i think you missed the boat by a month or 2 on their "slumps".


LOOOOOOOL. I loved your last sentence about how he missed the boat by a month because he posted it a month ago.
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corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
August 26 2011 15:20 GMT
#291
as out of hand as my mvp fanboyism is, its pretty hard to call him the outright king of terran atm since bomber, puma, mma, etc. are all so ridiculously good and code A/S are both obscenely stacked with mostly great terran players. i'd call mvp the best terran overall, but he isnt far enough ahead of his peers to comfortably claim the title of 'king' in the same way that nestea reigns over the zerg race, or to a lesser extent, mc for protoss.
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Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
August 26 2011 16:19 GMT
#292
Brain: MVP
Heart: MKP
♥ MVP_Keen ♥ oGs.MC ♥ LiquidTLO ♥ mouzThorZain ♥
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
August 26 2011 16:22 GMT
#293
There are hundreds of terran kings, the question is, who is the terran god? ( seriously top tier terrans are so far ahead of the curve, props to them )
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
August 26 2011 16:30 GMT
#294
On August 27 2011 01:22 Chaosvuistje wrote:
There are hundreds of terran kings, the question is, who is the terran god? ( seriously top tier terrans are so far ahead of the curve, props to them )


ye there are so many good terrans.

While other races only have maybe 2(nestea and puzzle, others are very inconsistent ) max top players.

Sucks cause when when they slump they call terran imba :< and since no one else is any good, terran is nerfed.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 26 2011 16:33 GMT
#295
On August 27 2011 00:16 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 00:10 aFganFlyTrap wrote:
On July 26 2011 17:13 hyptonic wrote:
MVP and MarineKing have been in a bit of a slump recently but I'd still say they are at the top with Polt/Bomber/sC in a tier below them



so MVP crushing MLG and taking first place and MKP crushing sase 2-0 in the CPL china finals is a slump? i think you missed the boat by a month or 2 on their "slumps".


LOOOOOOOL. I loved your last sentence about how he missed the boat by a month because he posted it a month ago.


Rofl, ouch. Nice one.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Xayvier
Profile Joined November 2010
United States387 Posts
August 26 2011 16:35 GMT
#296
The thing is bomber has such crazy winrates and I'm just waiting for him to win a gsl!
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
August 26 2011 16:39 GMT
#297
On August 27 2011 01:35 mrKamiya wrote:
The thing is bomber has such crazy winrates and I'm just waiting for him to win a gsl!


Bomber has the skills to be number one but he chokes too often
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
August 26 2011 16:49 GMT
#298
On July 26 2011 17:54 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 17:50 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 26 2011 17:45 Kraznaya wrote:
On July 26 2011 17:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 26 2011 17:32 Kraznaya wrote:
On July 26 2011 17:25 Fionn wrote:
There is no king. If Poltimus had gotten through Bomber and then beaten Byun, the throne would be his. MVP had the throne for a long time, but he's been slumping in the GSL/GSTL for a while. Bomber had his chance to take it by winning the tournament and beating Nestea, but he blew a 2-0 lead in the quarterfinals. SC hasn't won any titles. Nada is very consistent, but has never even been to a finals. MarineKing is slumping hard at the moment. Byun got 3-0'd in his only semifinals. Puma is a weird case; he won NASL, but he's never even qualified for Code A. He beat MKP and Poltimus in the GSTL, but he' still needs to get into the GSL or rack up a ton more foreign titles against top players.

Right now, I would probably say, with the closest chance of taking over the throne:

1) Bomber
2) Poltimus
3) MVP
4) MarineKing
5) Puma
6) Nada
7) MMA
8) Byun
9) SC



What has Bomber done to justify winning the #1 ranking? Sure, he's taken games off all of the rest of them, but he's never actually strung together a respectable run... the closest he got was at Dreamhack and he got stopped by Moon of all people.

(And don't claim the Code A crown over MVP as some kind of championship, the match was basically meaningless in terms of Code S qualification and in terms of GSL rankings, even the champion of Code A is only equal with the bottom rung of Code S.)

He's done more than taken games... he's beaten them in series. Name one other person in the world who has beaten MVP and MC. Code A is a respectable tournament and Bomber had to go through players who were considered to have top 5 TvTs in the world and he did it VERY convincingly while I think Polt's 4-0 games were less convincing because they were essentially won off of preparation and build orders for 2 of those games.


That would be all well and good... except the Code A championship was literally meaningless (it didn't even have the free slot to Code S back then), and Polt's win was for 100,000 dollars. Quality preparation for BoX series is very important when assessing player quality... just compare the repetoire of LeeSsang to Sea or Leta. Pretty sure I'd rather take Polt's win when assessing players. As for players who have beaten MC in series recently, there's quite a few, including Puma, Losira, HongUn and MKP... (MVP hasn't done well enough in GSL groups to really have a long list of Code S quality players playing him in series).


In terms of raw skill level Bomber is better than Polt, and sometimes the amount of prize money just doesn't matter when assessing that. Bomber did have to go through Nestea in the ro32 after all. Anyone else out of the 64 players and he could have made it much deeper. Sometimes you just get unlucky with your draw. Also, my point wasn't that he's capable of an upset over top 5 players, but that he can consistently beat them and is even favored to at this point.


How do you judge raw skill besides hard results? Sure Bomber ran into Nestea in the Ro32... but Nestea lost to TOP, who lost to Polt... and yet Bomber's better than them both in terms of raw skill? Sure, Bomber has shown impressive TvT games, but we're talking about the Terran king, not the King of TvT. Bomber doesn't match up to the top tier of Terrans in terms of his results, which is the only objective way to compare players, and therefore he has no claim to the crown until he does.
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JohnnyBoi
Profile Joined May 2011
United States25 Posts
August 28 2011 18:15 GMT
#299
Puma is the man.
LicH.
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
China235 Posts
August 28 2011 18:23 GMT
#300
On August 27 2011 01:19 Sith Inquisitor wrote:
Brain: MVP
Heart: MKP


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