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Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
July 24 2011 16:58 GMT
#421
I hope the koreans stomp all of the foreigners that are overrated.

I hope that all of the overrated foreigners get stomped.

- Destiny
- Reign
- FXO

SORRY THATS JUST HOW I FEEL
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
July 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#422
Win/Do Well:

White-ra, this guy is awesome
Boxer and DRG
qxc, with his all kill of IM and beating MVP in the gstl, I think qxc has gotten out of his slump!


I agree with the thing about spanishiwa. He is very creative, and pretty good, but he is way overrated still. I'm okay with major, he's good but hes always been like this, immature. I personally don't like Destiny's play that much. He did beat those koreans but that is probably because they have never seen the play he has done. I believe he lost a few other games to foreigners. His play is very entertaining and funny but I just dont think he plays seriously enough to be the best of the best. And yes I do know that he has been practicing a lot lately, but still.
Soowoo AD.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
July 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#423
I want a non korean to win, and i hope spanishiwa gets crushed by a no name player, he's a really nice guy but I want him to lose to shut up the fanboys that consider him one of the best players in the world.
"let your freak flag fly"
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#424
3 To suceed

DRG - How can you not like his play? Almost perfect and domintes.
Destiny - Fantastic Infestor micro
HuK - he's really impressed me lately, MC the 2nd.

3 to fail
IdrA - Grown men don't whine where I come from. It's disgusting.
Alicia - Overrated protoss
Major - scammy
MC for president
VdH
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania78 Posts
July 24 2011 17:02 GMT
#425
I see that most people want the overrated players to fail...so I propose we add a top 3 overrated player list in case it differs from the fail 3 list

Mine would be: MVP, Jinro and Tyler (I'm tired of everyone praising his refined builds when he goes on losing... "What a superb, well-prepared build!!! ...oh, he lost..." I'm not naming Spanishiwa here because he's on my fail list.
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
July 24 2011 17:02 GMT
#426
Win: Idra, Tyler, or Haypro

Lose: All the koreans except Boxer
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
July 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#427
To Win:

1. MVP
2. Naniwa
3. DRG

To Lose:

1. Incontrol
2. Sheth
3. Tyler
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
July 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#428
To do well:
Boxer (The grizzled veteran has been getting way too much shit)
MVP (The guy is an amazing player, but unfortunately a few losses put him way down only because you see so little of him due to the lack of big tournaments)
Choya (The guy works hard for his team as a coach, as a player, and works hard to make sure his team gets food on their plates and rarely ever gets any recognition for what he is other than as a cheesy nub)

To fail:
Fan favorites, outside of my hopes to succeed that is (They get way too much credit when other equally good players like Byun or Polt for ex. just goes unrecognized until they win that is)
Gameplay > Personality
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
July 24 2011 17:03 GMT
#429

MVP - Opposite of Strelok, the most overrated player in the world. He could go out in round 1 of every GSL for the next year, and people would still call him the best player in the world as long as he has one good finish. I really hope MMA and DRG own him up in this tournament.


Judging whether a player is overrated or not is probably the most useless activity than can be done, because it depends 99% on sympathy and a lack of good information.
I guess than the only foreigners that can really say something about a korean's qualities are Artosis and Tasteless and as soon as it comes to comparisons of the koreign vs. foreign scene nobody in the world can make accurate descriptions of skill, talent and all of that stuff.
plasemeious
Profile Joined November 2009
United States244 Posts
July 24 2011 17:05 GMT
#430
On July 24 2011 16:44 aksfjh wrote:
Win/do well:

Boxer - he will always be a hero
Destiny - he has been working hard for months and he's due for an even better showing
Sterling - a relative nobody, but his stream is cool, he's very humble, and he's quite good considering his lack of publicity.

Fail:

Desrow - I don't even know if he's going. He's just a dick.
Major - see above
Machine - the guy has been riding his beta/early SC2 wave for so long. He's also a member of EG, and my respect for them is at an all time low

Fail:
He is the only one I would hope does awful he is a dick like you said and not the Idra kind like BMing for no reason

Do well
Idra
DRG
Destiny(maybe idk just a zerg I wish julyzerg was coming back)
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 24 2011 17:05 GMT
#431
On July 24 2011 23:17 Haggis wrote:
your Spanishwa comments are fairly harsh, I don't think anyone thinks he's the best player in the world....

People enjoy watching him because he uses creative and somewhat crazy builds,

Also his Icefisher build I believe has improved a lot of players play, Am just a gold leaguer myself, but Its done wonders for my play, just by copying some of the fundamentals of it to suit my playstyle.


haha. Even Spanishiwa doesn't do Spanishiwa anymore practicing for MLG.
I think good scouting and reaction while droning is pretty blatant/obvious when playing zerg.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Aresien
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United Kingdom305 Posts
July 24 2011 17:09 GMT
#432
Eeeasy, brood war power!

Want to do well:
-Nony (Tyler...): time to stop the slump and show people why you're so hyped.
-Ret: always loved Ret, especially his streams from Korea when he was sitting in PC bangs ^^.
-Boxer: he's the god damn emperor, a win for him would just be the perfect story.

Want to fail:
-Major: hopefully karma comes around.
-Desrow: don't know a load about him but he seems to act like a dick.
-Koreans who arn't boxer: who wouldn't love to see a load of foreigners winning games?
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
July 24 2011 17:13 GMT
#433
Wow everyone wants to koreans to lose.... its like their the villians of the tournaments and the "good guys" (foreigners) want to beat them.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 17:18:38
July 24 2011 17:13 GMT
#434
To succeed:
Nony - Home team plus an awesome bw player and personality. I've gained a lot from him over the years
Jinro - Home team plus an awesome bw player and personality. I've gained a lot from him over the years
Lz/Machine! I've watched Lz's stream since bw and Machine always seemed like a really funny, friendly guy.

To fail:
Every korean. Its not that I have something against them, its just that it feels like every victory over a korean is a step forward for foreign e-sports (Boxer transcends race)
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 24 2011 17:15 GMT
#435
Win:

Jinro: Because I miss the days when people still feared the chin. Want him back in Code S.

Qxc: He's similar to Socke, a very solid player since the beta, who just hasn't really had many breakthrough performances. With his recent all-kill, however, it seems people are taking notice of this.

Haypro: Never really gets any love. I have to admit, when I see haypro in the lineup I think of him as one who will quickly be eliminated in a disappointing fashion. At one point or another, I feel like every member of Liquid has enjoyed their share of praise, except this guy. He's in the group of death at mlg. I, like many, expect him to get owned. I hope he surprises us all.

Fail:

Drewbie: Is anyone besides me just tired of this guy? Not really his character or anything that irks me, it's just that he's BORING. He comes across as just another undistinguished pro. He's like terran #126. Maybe it's just me, but it just always feels like mlg will stream his matches over something much better. "LOLZ hey guyz! We've got MMA vs. BoxeR going on right now, but instead we're going to bring you a Drewbie match :D. A Drewbie match. Drewbie"

All of the Koreans except for DRG and BoxeR: If a foreigner doesn't win it, I hope one of these two do.

Nobody else in particular

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
July 24 2011 17:26 GMT
#436
Win:

Nony, Upgrade to a zealot vs everyone!
Jinro, I want the Gorilla Terran to be what he was. (Really, rooting for Team Liquid as a whole, Ret, TLO, Haypro and Huk <3)
White-Ra, awesome Protoss and personality.

Fail:

I guess Destiny, Spanishwa and every other streamer hyped like hell without any noteworthy LAN results but I have no problems with the players in question.
If you can chill.. Chill!
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 17:49:59
July 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#437
Want to do well:

- Most terrans basically. I play terran myself and if terrans do well there's obviously more to learn for me.

Want to fail(hard):

- HuK because he's arrogant as hell and has absolutely no reason to be imho. In terms of raw talent I don't think he's even close to being one of the best. The way I see it most of his skill comes from sheer amount of practice and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that but it just doesn't fit to his "I pwn every1 easily" attitude. To top it off there are his extremely premature "Well, I'm the best so I'm probably going to win the whole thing" predictions - that's why I want him to drop out as early as possible from any tournament to change his behaviour. Apart from that he's a pretty likeable fellow.

- IdrA because of his constant balance whining. I've actually grown to like the guy and since I've stopped taking his BM seriously it's very amusing. I also don't mind the occasional balance complaint in moments of rage. What I absolutely can't stand however is his insistence on his race being the weakest, even in completely calm discussions outside of the game.

Edit:

- Boxer too actually. It's an entirely different thing than with the other two though. I know this is going to be considered blasphemy, but I actually think he should quit playing actively. He had his time, he won his titles and he had his moments in the spotlight. Imho he should switch to coaching or do something else representing eSports. I'm also kinda tired of people going totally batshit insane about everything concerning or connected to Boxer.
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
July 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#438
To win :
Jinro- Obivious reasons
Dongreagu- Time to prove yourself outside team league.
Boxer- The emperor should really have a gsl spot
To fail:
MMA- Haven't really impressed me.
Spanishiwa-Overrated
HD- Can't stand him

JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia814 Posts
July 24 2011 17:31 GMT
#439
Win
Liquid guys
FXO guys
Boxer
Incontrol

Lose
hmm well i dont really care who loses as long as my players win :D
.lets get weird
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 24 2011 17:32 GMT
#440
To win:
Boxer- Nuff said. this guy is the Emperor of starcraft, i want him to at least make the top 4
SixJaxMajor- You are the man, fuck what the rest of them says, Major is one of the best terrans that has ever came to the scene, i hope he wins MLG to shut the haters up.
FXOqxc- He's ballin. You've heard of this guy

To loose/Bomb out

vile.Spanishiwa- Okay, there is nothing really special about this guy, its just his openings, kinda like Jinro when he went into the GSL with his passive macro style, but the thing is now almost everybody knows how to react to his type of late gas expand builds.

2 & 3 are for anybody who is ridiculously over rated like Spanishiwa.
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