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zoombini
Profile Joined June 2010
United States67 Posts
July 21 2011 23:52 GMT
#5021
On July 22 2011 08:42 JohnStorm wrote:
It seems like a lot of people don't realize that this is nothing new from Alex Garfield. History is just repeating itself again.

http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/story/43572/

We need a Jason Lake response to this situation!
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5022
On July 22 2011 08:49 EchoZ wrote:
Can someone tell me what is going on in the past 100+ pages and the stream? I am at work and can't view it.


Puma hasnt actually signed with EG yet. And Alex Garfield doesn't feel he has done anything wrong.

Then a lot of stuff about future of esports and the relationship between Korea and the western world.
@Munck
Tomfour
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5023
Alex Garfield seems kind of like a greedy businessman PoS. Watching WoC and he keeps saying how he feels he did things morally/ethically/legally/culturally alright. I don't understand how he is saying that straight faced.

Just because a player isn't under contract doesn't mean you should treat him totally differently in this situation. TSL is probably treating him as best they can, and since he isn't under a contract with them he decides to poach Puma off their team. He himself said he never contacted TSL, how can he justify his actions and say there is (absolutely)no problem with what he did?
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5024
On July 22 2011 08:50 Cite wrote:
This guy is terrible at keeping consistent lol, hes gone from saying they b asically had no intention to recruit him and jhust provided him with a card, to spending hours upon hours with his management securing the budget to provide players like puma this opportunity. To be honest he should probably just stop 'cause hes running circles around himself


have you even been listening? he NEVER said there was no intention to recruit him, why clearly said he handed him a card and let him knew that they were looking to support a few korean players

post like yours just spread more misinformation
Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5025
On July 22 2011 08:51 thatsundowner wrote:
This guy has gotta be among the best at using a ton of words to say absolutely nothing

Hahaha yeah, I'm getting lost here.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5026
On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting


If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is.


I suppose thats the problem.

Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it.

Theres no smoke without fire


EG has better businessmen. That seems to be the problem others have.
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5027
On July 22 2011 08:50 Cite wrote:
This guy is terrible at keeping consistent lol, hes gone from saying they b asically had no intention to recruit him and jhust provided him with a card, to spending hours upon hours with his management securing the budget to provide players like puma this opportunity. To be honest he should probably just stop 'cause hes running circles around himself


Totally not what he said. He was clear from the beginning that he was trying to recruit him. Just saying he wasn't trying to sign him during NASL. Big difference.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5028
On July 22 2011 08:49 JoeSchmoe wrote:
AG is such a good speaker...


I think he should be, considering what his job is.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5029
On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting


If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is.


I suppose thats the problem.

Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it.

Theres no smoke without fire


It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG.


But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now.



Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with.


Yeah EG is so unlucky because the shit keeps getting started on them huh?

No.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5030
Damnit Alex Garfield, let Milkis talk.
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
July 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#5031
On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting


If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is.


I suppose thats the problem.

Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it.

Theres no smoke without fire


It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG.


But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now.



Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with.


Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 21 2011 23:54 GMT
#5032
On July 22 2011 08:53 lol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:51 thatsundowner wrote:
This guy has gotta be among the best at using a ton of words to say absolutely nothing

Hahaha yeah, I'm getting lost here.


Ya I can only hear him talk for about 10 minutes maximum before I have to turn it off to save my sanity. I got the general gist of his story, so I'm done here.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 23:54 GMT
#5033
On July 22 2011 08:53 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting


If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is.


I suppose thats the problem.

Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it.

Theres no smoke without fire


It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG.


But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now.



Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with.


Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?


because they generally seem to be most active in taking these kind of aggressive recruitment? of course there will be backlash.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5034
On July 22 2011 08:53 mnck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:49 EchoZ wrote:
Can someone tell me what is going on in the past 100+ pages and the stream? I am at work and can't view it.


Puma hasnt actually signed with EG yet. And Alex Garfield doesn't feel he has done anything wrong.

Then a lot of stuff about future of esports and the relationship between Korea and the western world.


Thanks!
Dear Sixsmith...
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5035
On July 22 2011 08:53 Tomfour wrote:
Alex Garfield seems kind of like a greedy businessman PoS. Watching WoC and he keeps saying how he feels he did things morally/ethically/legally/culturally alright. I don't understand how he is saying that straight faced.

Just because a player isn't under contract doesn't mean you should treat him totally differently in this situation. TSL is probably treating him as best they can, and since he isn't under a contract with them he decides to poach Puma off their team. He himself said he never contacted TSL, how can he justify his actions and say there is (absolutely)no problem with what he did?


Because there is No problem with what he did.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5036
On July 22 2011 08:53 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting


If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is.


I suppose thats the problem.

Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it.

Theres no smoke without fire


It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG.


But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now.



Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with.


Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?


The same reason the Yankees and the Red Sox get the most coverage on sports center.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5037
On July 22 2011 08:53 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting


If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is.


I suppose thats the problem.

Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it.

Theres no smoke without fire


It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG.


But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now.



Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with.


Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?


EG has the money to buy out players they want.

Fans of certain teams rage about it when it's the players/teams decision to accept the offer.
Cite
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia251 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5038
On July 22 2011 08:52 TaKemE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:50 Cite wrote:
This guy is terrible at keeping consistent lol, hes gone from saying they b asically had no intention to recruit him and jhust provided him with a card, to spending hours upon hours with his management securing the budget to provide players like puma this opportunity. To be honest he should probably just stop 'cause hes running circles around himself


Pls listen, they spend hours to securing the budget for a player LIKE puma.


Please understand this is just PR and spinning the right story with the right words. He is intentionally wording it like that so the two previous posters that pointed out my inabilities will accept his words at face value.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5039
AG defending his side very well. he sure knows how to say the right answers
thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5040
On July 22 2011 08:53 Tomfour wrote:
Just because a player isn't under contract doesn't mean you should treat him totally differently in this situation. TSL is probably treating him as best they can, and since he isn't under a contract with them he decides to poach Puma off their team. He himself said he never contacted TSL, how can he justify his actions and say there is (absolutely)no problem with what he did?


It's like you latched on to one sentence that was spoken and ignored everything else. Puma himself told EG that instead of contacting TSL, EG should let Puma talk to coach Lee.

In retrospect, EG probably should have contacted TSL anyways, but you'd think that the player from Korea would know the proprieties that are involved. So mistakes are both sides.
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