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On July 22 2011 08:42 JohnStorm wrote:It seems like a lot of people don't realize that this is nothing new from Alex Garfield. History is just repeating itself again. http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/story/43572/ We need a Jason Lake response to this situation!
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On July 22 2011 08:49 EchoZ wrote: Can someone tell me what is going on in the past 100+ pages and the stream? I am at work and can't view it.
Puma hasnt actually signed with EG yet. And Alex Garfield doesn't feel he has done anything wrong.
Then a lot of stuff about future of esports and the relationship between Korea and the western world.
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Alex Garfield seems kind of like a greedy businessman PoS. Watching WoC and he keeps saying how he feels he did things morally/ethically/legally/culturally alright. I don't understand how he is saying that straight faced.
Just because a player isn't under contract doesn't mean you should treat him totally differently in this situation. TSL is probably treating him as best they can, and since he isn't under a contract with them he decides to poach Puma off their team. He himself said he never contacted TSL, how can he justify his actions and say there is (absolutely)no problem with what he did?
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On July 22 2011 08:50 Cite wrote: This guy is terrible at keeping consistent lol, hes gone from saying they b asically had no intention to recruit him and jhust provided him with a card, to spending hours upon hours with his management securing the budget to provide players like puma this opportunity. To be honest he should probably just stop 'cause hes running circles around himself
have you even been listening? he NEVER said there was no intention to recruit him, why clearly said he handed him a card and let him knew that they were looking to support a few korean players
post like yours just spread more misinformation
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On July 22 2011 08:51 thatsundowner wrote: This guy has gotta be among the best at using a ton of words to say absolutely nothing Hahaha yeah, I'm getting lost here.
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On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote: So:
EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it
TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting
If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is. I suppose thats the problem. Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it. Theres no smoke without fire
EG has better businessmen. That seems to be the problem others have.
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On July 22 2011 08:50 Cite wrote: This guy is terrible at keeping consistent lol, hes gone from saying they b asically had no intention to recruit him and jhust provided him with a card, to spending hours upon hours with his management securing the budget to provide players like puma this opportunity. To be honest he should probably just stop 'cause hes running circles around himself
Totally not what he said. He was clear from the beginning that he was trying to recruit him. Just saying he wasn't trying to sign him during NASL. Big difference.
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On July 22 2011 08:49 JoeSchmoe wrote: AG is such a good speaker...
I think he should be, considering what his job is.
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On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote: So:
EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it
TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting
If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is. I suppose thats the problem. Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it. Theres no smoke without fire It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG. But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now. Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with.
Yeah EG is so unlucky because the shit keeps getting started on them huh?
No.
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Damnit Alex Garfield, let Milkis talk.
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On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote: So:
EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it
TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting
If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is. I suppose thats the problem. Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it. Theres no smoke without fire It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG. But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now. Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with.
Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?
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On July 22 2011 08:53 lol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:51 thatsundowner wrote: This guy has gotta be among the best at using a ton of words to say absolutely nothing Hahaha yeah, I'm getting lost here.
Ya I can only hear him talk for about 10 minutes maximum before I have to turn it off to save my sanity. I got the general gist of his story, so I'm done here.
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On July 22 2011 08:53 Asymmetric wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote: So:
EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it
TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting
If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is. I suppose thats the problem. Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it. Theres no smoke without fire It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG. But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now. Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with. Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?
because they generally seem to be most active in taking these kind of aggressive recruitment? of course there will be backlash.
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On July 22 2011 08:53 mnck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:49 EchoZ wrote: Can someone tell me what is going on in the past 100+ pages and the stream? I am at work and can't view it. Puma hasnt actually signed with EG yet. And Alex Garfield doesn't feel he has done anything wrong. Then a lot of stuff about future of esports and the relationship between Korea and the western world.
Thanks!
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On July 22 2011 08:53 Tomfour wrote: Alex Garfield seems kind of like a greedy businessman PoS. Watching WoC and he keeps saying how he feels he did things morally/ethically/legally/culturally alright. I don't understand how he is saying that straight faced.
Just because a player isn't under contract doesn't mean you should treat him totally differently in this situation. TSL is probably treating him as best they can, and since he isn't under a contract with them he decides to poach Puma off their team. He himself said he never contacted TSL, how can he justify his actions and say there is (absolutely)no problem with what he did?
Because there is No problem with what he did.
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On July 22 2011 08:53 Asymmetric wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote: So:
EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it
TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting
If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is. I suppose thats the problem. Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it. Theres no smoke without fire It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG. But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now. Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with. Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?
The same reason the Yankees and the Red Sox get the most coverage on sports center.
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On July 22 2011 08:53 Asymmetric wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:52 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:50 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2011 08:49 Asymmetric wrote:On July 22 2011 08:46 Bigpet wrote:On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote: So:
EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it
TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting
If everything that Alex has said is true that this is exactly what the logical conclusion is. I suppose thats the problem. Seems every month EG's got some kind of shitstorm surrounding it. Theres no smoke without fire It's the forum complainers that start the drama shit, not EG. But why EG. It's almost seems to be them for years now. Because people who have no place in the discussion like to give their input on teams business practices they disagree with. Then doesn't answer the question. Why is it always EG?
EG has the money to buy out players they want.
Fans of certain teams rage about it when it's the players/teams decision to accept the offer.
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On July 22 2011 08:52 TaKemE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 08:50 Cite wrote: This guy is terrible at keeping consistent lol, hes gone from saying they b asically had no intention to recruit him and jhust provided him with a card, to spending hours upon hours with his management securing the budget to provide players like puma this opportunity. To be honest he should probably just stop 'cause hes running circles around himself Pls listen, they spend hours to securing the budget for a player LIKE puma.
Please understand this is just PR and spinning the right story with the right words. He is intentionally wording it like that so the two previous posters that pointed out my inabilities will accept his words at face value.
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AG defending his side very well. he sure knows how to say the right answers
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On July 22 2011 08:53 Tomfour wrote: Just because a player isn't under contract doesn't mean you should treat him totally differently in this situation. TSL is probably treating him as best they can, and since he isn't under a contract with them he decides to poach Puma off their team. He himself said he never contacted TSL, how can he justify his actions and say there is (absolutely)no problem with what he did?
It's like you latched on to one sentence that was spoken and ignored everything else. Puma himself told EG that instead of contacting TSL, EG should let Puma talk to coach Lee.
In retrospect, EG probably should have contacted TSL anyways, but you'd think that the player from Korea would know the proprieties that are involved. So mistakes are both sides.
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