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GoldenGun
Profile Joined May 2011
United States49 Posts
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5041
Milkis is getting owned right now by AG, basically.
Get over yourself.
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 00:00:28
July 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#5042
Screw it. Was going to post what Alex is trying to say, but no one is going to read it anyway.
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 23:56:18
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#5043
On July 22 2011 08:53 holy_war wrote:
Damnit Alex Garfield, let Milkis talk.


The problem is it's not Milkis' place nor duty to argue the other side. In an ideal world we'd have a TSL representative on.

Wheat could make a better job of being devil's advocate.
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#5044
On July 22 2011 08:48 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:46 babylon wrote:
This almost sounds like a classic case of miscommunication.

EG hands Puma a card. Puma says he'll talk to coach about it, no worries. Puma talks to TSL coach. TSL coach thinks he's already been signed(?), feels slighted, and releases Puma with a public statement. But EG hasn't really signed Puma? What?


Yup this. Coach Lee fucked over his player publicly by jumping to conclusions.


not exactly, when Alex says Puma isn't signed, he actually means that literally, Puma is not yet at EG's headquarters, and hasn't yet held the pen with which he'll sign his name.

in all other aspects, he's with EG, he's just in transit
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#5045
Milkis is letting the debate get away from the points he has the information to debate. He's not on the same level as the EG representative when it comes to debating on a public platform.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#5046
On July 22 2011 08:55 GoldenGun wrote:
Milkis is getting owned right now by AG, basically.


He doesn't even get to talk. He just cuts in every 20 seconds.
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Cite
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia251 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#5047
On July 22 2011 08:56 EtohEtoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:48 seiferoth10 wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:46 babylon wrote:
This almost sounds like a classic case of miscommunication.

EG hands Puma a card. Puma says he'll talk to coach about it, no worries. Puma talks to TSL coach. TSL coach thinks he's already been signed(?), feels slighted, and releases Puma with a public statement. But EG hasn't really signed Puma? What?


Yup this. Coach Lee fucked over his player publicly by jumping to conclusions.


not exactly, when Alex says Puma isn't signed, he actually means that literally, Puma is not yet at EG's headquarters, and hasn't yet held the pen with which he'll sign his name.

in all other aspects, he's with EG, he's just in transit


This over again a trillion times please, anyone else is stupidly blinded by pretty words
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#5048
Closed the stream, can only listen to his non-stop talking for so long.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#5049
On July 22 2011 08:55 GoldenGun wrote:
Milkis is getting owned right now by AG, basically.


I wouldn't say getting "owned" but obviously AG knows more about running businesses than milkis, hence why milkis is asking questions. How can milkis be "owned" by asking questions?
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5050
On July 22 2011 08:55 GoldenGun wrote:
Milkis is getting owned right now by AG, basically.


Milkis just broke/translated the news regarding this issue. Alex Garfield handles this stuff for a living...
roosten
Profile Joined August 2010
125 Posts
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5051
AG really seems to be setting this up as a culture clash situation, and I'm not sure that that's the most productive way for him to argue his side.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5052
On July 22 2011 08:56 Soleron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:53 holy_war wrote:
Damnit Alex Garfield, let Milkis talk.


The problem is it's not Milkis' place nor duty to argue the other side. In an ideal world we'd have a TSL representative on.

Wheat could make a better job of being devil's advocate.


Pretty much, but Alex isn't allowing much room to Wheat either lol.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2889 Posts
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5053
This guy is basically making the argument for Imperialism, with starcraft 2 as an extended metaphor.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 23:58:32
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5054
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thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5055
On July 22 2011 08:55 Cite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:52 TaKemE wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:50 Cite wrote:
This guy is terrible at keeping consistent lol, hes gone from saying they b asically had no intention to recruit him and jhust provided him with a card, to spending hours upon hours with his management securing the budget to provide players like puma this opportunity. To be honest he should probably just stop 'cause hes running circles around himself


Pls listen, they spend hours to securing the budget for a player LIKE puma.


Please understand this is just PR and spinning the right story with the right words. He is intentionally wording it like that so the two previous posters that pointed out my inabilities will accept his words at face value.


So let me get this straight. You have an opinion on what happened. EG says something that defies that opinion. Instead of changing your opinion, you decide that EG must be lying.

And your evidence is... what?
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5056
--- Nuked ---
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
July 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#5057
Don't be deceived. Do you think it's just coincidence that everything Alex Garfield said about what actually happened sounds favorable to EG's side? Obviously he's not going to say he did anything wrong.

Also, he doesn't know anything about esports. And his argument is not even weak, it's just incorrect.
ArturosII
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia54 Posts
July 21 2011 23:58 GMT
#5058
Alex has made a reasonable statement. He said that he talked with Puma, Puma wanted to talk with the coach, Alex let this happen. He has apologised for handling this wrong and not sending a message to the coach at all. This is all good. He's also defending picking up a Korean player which is also fine. The issue is he should have said some of this stuff as soon as he heard the news. He should have just released a short "I'm sorry, I should have sent a message to the coach" hours ago and most of the complaints wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy but I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
Toriko
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada60 Posts
July 21 2011 23:58 GMT
#5059
AG is defending his side very well because Milkis just wasn't the right person to ask to debate the issue.

Milkis is basically a 3rd party, like the rest of us. And he's terrible to listen to.

Too bad they couldn't invite Coach Lee + translator, or maybe even the GSL commentator
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 23:58 GMT
#5060
On July 22 2011 08:57 zeru wrote:
They need to let milkis talk. This is so damn annoying.


Milkis isn't on to talk business, he is on to give his perspective on the story and cultures.
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