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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
February 19 2012 00:00 GMT
#1461
On February 19 2012 08:32 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 08:21 Talack wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:18 cyclone25 wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:16 hunts wrote:
I'm gonna have to say the oposite of what most of this thread is about. Most foreigners are way overrated and overhyped. You have people like stephano, thorzain, etc... being called "one of the top players in the world" when in reality they wouldn't even cut it in code B. I'm sorry but every foreigner right now, even including the ones who live in korea is overrated and overhyped and is nowhere near as good as everyone thinks they are. Hopefully that changes, I really want to see Idra competing at a code S level again, but as of right now no foreigner is "good."


Stephano has a positive win rate vs the top koreans. He also won 4-0 vs Lucky, a top korean zerg, in the final of a big event. You're just hating on Stephano saying that he;s not even Code B, lol.


How'd he do in the blizzcup?


You can't check it yourself?

Heh did you really not get his point?
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
February 19 2012 00:01 GMT
#1462
On February 19 2012 08:32 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 08:21 Talack wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:18 cyclone25 wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:16 hunts wrote:
I'm gonna have to say the oposite of what most of this thread is about. Most foreigners are way overrated and overhyped. You have people like stephano, thorzain, etc... being called "one of the top players in the world" when in reality they wouldn't even cut it in code B. I'm sorry but every foreigner right now, even including the ones who live in korea is overrated and overhyped and is nowhere near as good as everyone thinks they are. Hopefully that changes, I really want to see Idra competing at a code S level again, but as of right now no foreigner is "good."


Stephano has a positive win rate vs the top koreans. He also won 4-0 vs Lucky, a top korean zerg, in the final of a big event. You're just hating on Stephano saying that he;s not even Code B, lol.


How'd he do in the blizzcup?


You can't check it yourself?

I checked it out myself and I was thoroughly impressed with his positive win rate vs the top koreans.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
February 19 2012 00:09 GMT
#1463
Tassadar
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 19 2012 00:21 GMT
#1464
On February 19 2012 09:01 Forbidden17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 08:32 cyclone25 wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:21 Talack wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:18 cyclone25 wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:16 hunts wrote:
I'm gonna have to say the oposite of what most of this thread is about. Most foreigners are way overrated and overhyped. You have people like stephano, thorzain, etc... being called "one of the top players in the world" when in reality they wouldn't even cut it in code B. I'm sorry but every foreigner right now, even including the ones who live in korea is overrated and overhyped and is nowhere near as good as everyone thinks they are. Hopefully that changes, I really want to see Idra competing at a code S level again, but as of right now no foreigner is "good."


Stephano has a positive win rate vs the top koreans. He also won 4-0 vs Lucky, a top korean zerg, in the final of a big event. You're just hating on Stephano saying that he;s not even Code B, lol.


How'd he do in the blizzcup?


You can't check it yourself?

I checked it out myself and I was thoroughly impressed with his positive win rate vs the top koreans.


I was talking about his overall win rate from all tournaments, not just the results from a random day picked by you ...
bundo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada113 Posts
February 19 2012 00:24 GMT
#1465
Byun. Hes gonna make a comeback and win the gsl this year
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
February 19 2012 00:26 GMT
#1466
ZeNEXLife
jk hes actually bad
I think polt is underrated.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
February 19 2012 00:29 GMT
#1467
On February 19 2012 09:26 llKenZyll wrote:
ZeNEXLife
jk hes actually bad
I think polt is underrated.

I agree about polt, he seems to have kinda fell off of late but I still feel like people underestimate him.
<3 Moonbattles
Skaminator
Profile Joined October 2011
112 Posts
February 19 2012 00:29 GMT
#1468
Taeja

He cleans up the weekly like a boss and pwns a lot of great koreans, still gets no love .

And every1 who says Stephano is underrated is out of his mind. IMO he gets just as much fame as he deserves.
cellblock
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden206 Posts
February 19 2012 00:30 GMT
#1469
Taeja, Byun, Genius
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
February 19 2012 00:34 GMT
#1470
On February 19 2012 09:29 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 09:26 llKenZyll wrote:
ZeNEXLife
jk hes actually bad
I think polt is underrated.

I agree about polt, he seems to have kinda fell off of late but I still feel like people underestimate him.

Lets hope he wins ASUS ^_^
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
February 19 2012 00:36 GMT
#1471
Violet, Incontrol, and TLO. Violet has been getting more exposure lately and im glad. TLO is getting soooo good and if he still goes to korea I expect good things from him. Incontrol is also really good but doesnt get the results he deserves. Hopefully this house starts to get him good results
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 00:43:49
February 19 2012 00:41 GMT
#1472
On February 19 2012 08:59 Neelia wrote:
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On February 19 2012 08:30 Zeon0 wrote:
On February 19 2012 08:06 cyclone25 wrote:
On February 19 2012 07:57 dafunk wrote:
Stephano


I agree with this too. I think Stephano is very underrated right now. People still argue whether he is the best foreigner player or not (LOL).
I believe that he can easily get in a GSL final if he participates this year. Last year the top koreans were just blind countering him (Mvp is a good example), but now he has a more flexible style.
DongRaeGu is the favorite to win this GSL, and Stephano beat him before ...
Stephano is easily a top 3 SC2 player right now.

no, just no

yes, Stephano beat DRG, but DRG did a silly all in. You cant say Steph>DRG based on that game, that would just be ridiculous


Blizzcup is just very bad for measuring Stephano. He beat DRG in an silly game and he beat HerO on a day where HerO played like shit. Then he failed with an all in vs MC and Mvp blindcountered him.

Saying he is Top3 overall is just wrong, because he didnt had the chance to prove himself vs top Koreans very often (as I said Blizzcup was just bad with the bo1s and all ins on both sides). Its a shame he doesnt play MLG, cause there are much more top notch Koreans than at Assembly.


But taking a almost guaranteed top3 at Assembly is just more profitable than trying do fight the best players in the world, where everyone can lose to everyone


He did participate at MLG Orlando and got 18th.

playing the open bracket, losing there to TheSTC and then in Championship Bracket to Boxer. I dont think MLG Open Bracket is a good instrument to measure a player, if I remember correctly Stephano himself said he was incredibly tired.


I want to see Stephano in a 'normal' tournament setting (bo3 group phase or bo3 bracket with a normal amount of games) vs top Koreans. I think MLG next week would be that, sadly Stephano wants to own some European Noobs xD

On February 19 2012 09:29 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 09:26 llKenZyll wrote:
ZeNEXLife
jk hes actually bad
I think polt is underrated.

I agree about polt, he seems to have kinda fell off of late but I still feel like people underestimate him.

going from Code S to Code B is kinda bad, even with the incredible players in GSL.

if he can come back to Code A people will think higher of him, but I personally think he had a good run in the Super Tournament and I dont think he is as good as other Korean Terrans like Mvp, MMA or others
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Brootalbro
Profile Joined February 2012
Korea (South)105 Posts
February 19 2012 00:43 GMT
#1473
Thestc
If I tell you the truth you'll vie for a lie. If I spilt my guts, it would make a mess we can't clean up. Say you'll never leave me 'cause I need you so much. I can't live with myself so stay with me tonight.
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
February 19 2012 00:43 GMT
#1474
Overrated
Polt
Naama
SjoW
Choya
InCa
XiGua
Tassadar

Underrated
Keen
Heart
Sheth
sC
Feast
KiWiKaKi
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 00:46:10
February 19 2012 00:45 GMT
#1475
I agree with most of them, but I cant say anything about Keen and Heart, havent seen much games of them. And I dont wanna comment on sC cause i dont think he is that good (imo he is a cheesy ***) but he had serious medical issuses which could easily be the reason for his bad results.

And I dont know about Kiwikaki. He is creative, but is he really good?^^
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
February 19 2012 00:51 GMT
#1476
On February 19 2012 09:45 Zeon0 wrote:
I agree with most of them, but I cant say anything about Keen and Heart, havent seen much games of them. And I dont wanna comment on sC cause i dont think he is that good (imo he is a cheesy ***) but he had serious medical issuses which could easily be the reason for his bad results.

And I dont know about Kiwikaki. He is creative, but is he really good?^^


you dont think Keen is underrated? his super underrated.. sC is cheesy? hahah no way you are crazy if he was healthy and no injuries i would bet my life he would win a GSL.. thats the thing people think KiWiKaKi is just creative but he takes games off insanely good players i just dont think he dedicates his whole time into SC2 thats why you dont see much results from him
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 19 2012 00:52 GMT
#1477
On February 19 2012 09:43 naux wrote:
Overrated
Polt
Naama
SjoW
Choya
InCa
XiGua
Tassadar

Underrated
Keen
Heart
Sheth
sC
Feast
KiWiKaKi


I don't think Sheth is underrated. He's always been at the same level since the start if SC2. I didn;t saw him improving a lot lately.
Kiwikaki was inactive for a while, not sure how much he practices now. His results were very poor, but he can do better than that.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
February 19 2012 00:53 GMT
#1478
HasHe, Dragon, Clide, and GhostKingPrime. all underrated in my eyes. I believe all 3 could be amazing players. Especially Clide. For some reason though, ever since he went to SlayerS he has gotten worse in my eyes. He recently got knocked out of Code A. Hopefully he will post better results. HasHe and Dragon would both be great if they could be in a team house and practice with other good players 24/7 instead of being forced to ladder to practice. GKP will be doing fine imo when he comes back as Prime is a good team and they have great players that he can practice with. Maybe he could even help MKP with his TvT O.o
ok
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
February 19 2012 01:00 GMT
#1479
On February 19 2012 09:43 naux wrote:
Overrated
Polt

On February 19 2012 09:26 llKenZyll wrote:
ZeNEXLife
jk hes actually bad
I think polt is underrated.

We seem to be at an impass.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
warblob004
Profile Joined January 2011
United States198 Posts
February 19 2012 01:01 GMT
#1480
Combat-ex?? :D
"I have not failed; I've simply found 10,000 ways it won't work." ~Thomas Edison
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