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nougdp
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany144 Posts
September 05 2011 21:30 GMT
#1021
On July 18 2011 03:52 King of Kings wrote:
MVP_Keen


Someone knew it. I hope Keen improves his TvT, then he's got a chance to win a GSL. :>
Superpower
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia212 Posts
September 05 2011 21:34 GMT
#1022
There is definitely alot of talent from the SEA ( south east asia) players like jazbas, mafis, pig and light/bluelight, go on youtube and search up some of their games
Taeja <3
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:03:49
September 05 2011 21:38 GMT
#1023
I'd say grubby, hwangsin, vVvTitan, ISTime or any one of the new up and coming high masters / low gm players that are really coming of age recently. I've watched time and grubby completely roll high level koreans, granted both of their PvT needs a bit of work. However, 38% of players are zerg now according to new polls and all the tosses i mentioned are incredible at pvz. In regards to Titan, he is going to be the next Idra, hard droning, less BM, and a lot more willingness to change than Idra, i see him going far.

EDIT - when i talk about both i mean grubby and ISTime, not Hwangsin. Hwangsin is a beast at everything and he is less unknown and more of lesser player in terms of his team (Gosu) and his winnings aren't amazing but i've seen him practicing hard.
User was warned for too many mimes.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 21:41:46
September 05 2011 21:41 GMT
#1024
GSL semifinals spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +
Now that TOP has made the finals he probably won't be underrated anymore, but before his win against Polt he definitely was. No fanclub until today and look at liquibet and the poll in the sidebar. In all likelihood his skill has been on the same tier of more popular terrans like MMA, Nada, sC, Polt and Byun but never had a breakout moment until now.
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
September 05 2011 21:41 GMT
#1025
-orb-

He's awesome
Zerg delenda est.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
September 05 2011 21:45 GMT
#1026
On September 06 2011 06:34 Superpower wrote:
There is definitely alot of talent from the SEA ( south east asia) players like jazbas, mafis, pig and light/bluelight, go on youtube and search up some of their games

JazBas ftw :D
hi. big fan.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
September 05 2011 21:46 GMT
#1027
On September 06 2011 04:23 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 04:23 ReacH. wrote:
QXC. He's recently found more popularity due to his all-kill in the GSTL, but he's been a complete baller ever since the beta!

I'm also a big fan of Adelscott and TT1 on the Protoss side, and Dimaga for Z.


What do you like in TT1? he is a complete douchebag.

Personality isn't the only thing you rate a progamer on dood.
hi. big fan.
bitt
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1 Post
September 05 2011 21:47 GMT
#1028
ToD the most underrated non korean protoss!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 05 2011 21:47 GMT
#1029
On September 06 2011 06:38 docvoc wrote:
I'd say grubby, hwangsin, vVvTitan, ISTime or any one of the new up and coming high masters / low gm players that are really coming of age recently. I've watched time and grubby completely roll high level koreans, granted both of their PvT needs a bit of work. However, 38% of players are zerg now according to new polls and all the tosses i mentioned are incredible at pvz. In regards to Titan, he is going to be the next Idra, hard droning, less BM, and a lot more willingness to change than Idra, i see him going far.

Titan, hard droning and plays like idra?

WHAT?

I honestly can't think of a zerg that plays LESS like idra than titan.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
September 05 2011 21:47 GMT
#1030
On September 06 2011 04:19 Golgotha wrote:
I think Tzain is underrated


Really? Pretty much everywhere I look (especially on TL), he is considered the best non korean Terran, which fits his skill level and his results.

My pick is a player, who is actually very succesful and widely known, but doesn´t get the respect he deserves: Socke.

Despite not having one big pay day aka major international title yet, he is the 4th highest non korean earner, when it comes to price money (behind White-Ra, HuK and NaNi). This alone should speak volumes about his consistency.

Since MLG Raleigh in August 2010, where he left the first big expression on the world scene with a 3rd place, the guy has delivered in nearly every major lan tournament he attended:

Top 8 in both DH´s
Top 6 in IEM Kiev and Top 4 in IEM Cologne
Top 4 Assembly Winter
Top 6 MLG Dallas 2011

All finishes in the money. The only lans, where he really underperformed were IEM Hannover (still took a 3 hour tie-breaker to stop him from advancing) and the last MLG he attended.

On top of that come several titles and high finishes online, success at lesser known lans like the Gadget Inv. in England and ESL Torneo in Spain and of course his two titles in the German EPS (which itself featured every high level german player and some EU heavywheights like Cloud and Demuslim).

Now with this all in mind, some people want to tell me, that he doesn´t even belong to the Top EU protoss players, that he isn´t on the same level as players like Sase, Hasu or Mana (nothing against them, they are all great, but haven´t more accomplished than Socke)?

He is nearly always despicted as the underdog in match ups against other high level foreigners. A good example is the Shoutcraft Inv. II, where the suprise was great for the casters (the only thing that bothered me in an otherwise great event), when he defeated Nerchio, Sheth and later won the whole thing. I didn´t understand it, because he was actually the most accomplished in the whole line-up.

For over a year now with lots of game changing patches (like the removal of the KA), shifts in the meta game and upcoming and downgoing stars, the guy plays at the highest level outside Korea. He never hit a real slump, has positive win rates in every match up in over 700 games, which due to the fact, that he frequently plays only major lans and invitationals, are against mostly other top players.

For me, he belongs to the ten best non koreans overall and is surely not treated like one.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
September 05 2011 21:49 GMT
#1031
My vote for Destiny
hi. big fan.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#1032
Polt. He's gotten to the GSL semifinals AGAIN, and people are still saying he's less favored than July.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
September 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#1033
On September 06 2011 06:41 red4ce wrote:
GSL semifinals spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +
Now that TOP has made the finals he probably won't be underrated anymore, but before his win against Polt he definitely was. No fanclub until today and look at liquibet and the poll in the sidebar. In all likelihood his skill has been on the same tier of more popular terrans like MMA, Nada, sC, Polt and Byun but never had a breakout moment until now.


Top isn't very good. His a mediocore code s player he got a lucky bracket. He has good macro but his control is lacking. Polt is the complete opposite, bad macro and good control. Neither player should be considered top 5 terrans in korea.
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
September 05 2011 21:56 GMT
#1034
binski is pretty good
binski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States225 Posts
September 05 2011 21:57 GMT
#1035
SiN is pretty good
Marinechan
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 21:58:25
September 05 2011 21:58 GMT
#1036
NSHoSeo_jjakji

One of the best micro'er I've ever seen.
Marinesplit, how do I do it?
Hypoxia
Profile Joined May 2011
United States31 Posts
September 05 2011 22:04 GMT
#1037
Keen, Sase
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
September 05 2011 22:08 GMT
#1038
I would have to suggest Machine. Usually in the shadow of Idra but I think out of all EG he will gain the most and step into the light.
Jandos
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Czech Republic928 Posts
September 05 2011 22:10 GMT
#1039
Predy
Raeph
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany61 Posts
September 05 2011 22:14 GMT
#1040
On September 06 2011 06:47 Sphaero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 04:19 Golgotha wrote:
I think Tzain is underrated


Really? Pretty much everywhere I look (especially on TL), he is considered the best non korean Terran, which fits his skill level and his results.

My pick is a player, who is actually very succesful and widely known, but doesn´t get the respect he deserves: Socke.

Despite not having one big pay day aka major international title yet, he is the 4th highest non korean earner, when it comes to price money (behind White-Ra, HuK and NaNi). This alone should speak volumes about his consistency.

Since MLG Raleigh in August 2010, where he left the first big expression on the world scene with a 3rd place, the guy has delivered in nearly every major lan tournament he attended:

Top 8 in both DH´s
Top 6 in IEM Kiev and Top 4 in IEM Cologne
Top 4 Assembly Winter
Top 6 MLG Dallas 2011

All finishes in the money. The only lans, where he really underperformed were IEM Hannover (still took a 3 hour tie-breaker to stop him from advancing) and the last MLG he attended.

On top of that come several titles and high finishes online, success at lesser known lans like the Gadget Inv. in England and ESL Torneo in Spain and of course his two titles in the German EPS (which itself featured every high level german player and some EU heavywheights like Cloud and Demuslim).

Now with this all in mind, some people want to tell me, that he doesn´t even belong to the Top EU protoss players, that he isn´t on the same level as players like Sase, Hasu or Mana (nothing against them, they are all great, but haven´t more accomplished than Socke)?

He is nearly always despicted as the underdog in match ups against other high level foreigners. A good example is the Shoutcraft Inv. II, where the suprise was great for the casters (the only thing that bothered me in an otherwise great event), when he defeated Nerchio, Sheth and later won the whole thing. I didn´t understand it, because he was actually the most accomplished in the whole line-up.

For over a year now with lots of game changing patches (like the removal of the KA), shifts in the meta game and upcoming and downgoing stars, the guy plays at the highest level outside Korea. He never hit a real slump, has positive win rates in every match up in over 700 games, which due to the fact, that he frequently plays only major lans and invitationals, are against mostly other top players.

For me, he belongs to the ten best non koreans overall and is surely not treated like one.


I share your opionion. I have the feeling that almost nowbody who isn't out of germany is a fan of him and I really don't no why. He is not only a really good and consistend Player but also a very nice guy who speaks better then the most over not native speaker so he has also the chance to talk to his fans.

I hope he can do well in the SCI 3 again so maybe finally he gets some more recognition.
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