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-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
July 16 2011 04:34 GMT
#481
On July 16 2011 13:33 trias_e wrote:
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On July 16 2011 13:32 Karak wrote:
i think a flat is fine and honestly not a bad play as long as you are planning to jam over his cbet on nearly every flop (except a truly horrible one like AKQ monotone or something).


This. Could even flat flop and ship turn if opp's range is weak enough and he is spazzy enough. Depends on opp. If opp is solid postflop then just raise pre.


Nah flatting the flop is pretty bad. Just jam with those stack sizes.
King.Crimson
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 04:36:03
July 16 2011 04:34 GMT
#482
On July 16 2011 13:31 Bao wrote:
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On July 16 2011 13:29 King.Crimson wrote:
Y u no shove TT pre?


i think pfr was utg and he was utg+1 and didnt wanna ship. i didnt see stack sizes though, tuned in just in the middle of the hand


I really hate flatting TT in mtt's. Too many overcards can flop and you have no idea where you're at if they do. Better to play it smart and 3bet/shove pre. Also if you 3bet the UTG raiser, it gives your hand image immense strength, so that helps fold equity too.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 04:34 GMT
#483
I'm saying that more im portantly than the fold post flop, was the fact that he didn't keep aggression in position preflop, since that would set him up better for that flop.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
July 16 2011 04:34 GMT
#484
On July 16 2011 13:33 Zlasher wrote:
Bothers me that they keep calling him inexperienced when he probably has more hands in his life than most of the guys in that table lol


Just think how many more he could have if he also wasn't top NA Protoss when practicing at least 4 hours a day prob more
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
July 16 2011 04:35 GMT
#485
Yeah, IDK what Kiwi was doing flatting pre. What positions were they in, I missed it?
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
July 16 2011 04:35 GMT
#486
so pretty much since I live in US ... sucks for online poker?
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
July 16 2011 04:35 GMT
#487
Goodluck Kiwi!!!
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 16 2011 04:35 GMT
#488
On July 16 2011 13:35 ShooTouts wrote:
so pretty much since I live in US ... sucks for online poker?

doesn't just suck, it is illegal lol
ZuRbii
Profile Joined January 2011
United States58 Posts
July 16 2011 04:36 GMT
#489
Sooooo awesome seeing Kiwi on tv!
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
July 16 2011 04:36 GMT
#490
On July 16 2011 13:33 Zlasher wrote:
Bothers me that they keep calling him inexperienced when he probably has more hands in his life than most of the guys in that table lol

they're not referring to his experience in poker but his experience in live..
to live is to suffer
HomicidaL
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
July 16 2011 04:36 GMT
#491
On July 16 2011 13:35 ShooTouts wrote:
so pretty much since I live in US ... sucks for online poker?

yeah it sucks living in the states, however when you live 10mins away form Alantic City it aint so bad
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
July 16 2011 04:37 GMT
#492
damn hope kiwi does good hes my favorite player.

sucks about the 10/10 hand. i would of folded there too but im not very good at poker, but the way they talked about it i guess it was the wrong move.
trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
July 16 2011 04:37 GMT
#493
On July 16 2011 13:34 Karak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:33 trias_e wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:32 Karak wrote:
i think a flat is fine and honestly not a bad play as long as you are planning to jam over his cbet on nearly every flop (except a truly horrible one like AKQ monotone or something).


This. Could even flat flop and ship turn if opp's range is weak enough and he is spazzy enough. Depends on opp. If opp is solid postflop then just raise pre.


Nah flatting the flop is pretty bad. Just jam with those stack sizes.


Yeah good point, so little behind you will get called by worse if you jam.
Dub_doubt
Profile Joined June 2011
United States86 Posts
July 16 2011 04:37 GMT
#494
On July 16 2011 13:36 HomicidaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:35 ShooTouts wrote:
so pretty much since I live in US ... sucks for online poker?

yeah it sucks living in the states, however when you live 10mins away form Alantic City it aint so bad


Atlantic city is god's blind spot, that place is a dump :/
InsaneColeTrain
Profile Joined March 2011
United States13 Posts
July 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#495
UUUUuuuuHHHHhhhhhhh *goes to break*
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#496
On July 16 2011 13:36 daxile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:33 Zlasher wrote:
Bothers me that they keep calling him inexperienced when he probably has more hands in his life than most of the guys in that table lol

they're not referring to his experience in poker but his experience in live..


I'm pretty sure they were clearly stating his PLAY, not how he reacted in a live setting.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#497
On July 16 2011 13:33 FawkingGoomba wrote:
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On July 16 2011 13:31 ReignFayth wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:31 FawkingGoomba wrote:
Fayth is he still in it?

no i busted day 2

still got 20% of kiwi though


Oh you're not there live? The stream's delayed by 30 minutes so I was wondering if anything happened that we hadn't seen yet.

i booked my flight to come back home right when i busted, didn't feel like sticking around, busting from ME is pretty frustrating, everybody always insta-leave after it ;p
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#498
Go Kiwi!

ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
July 16 2011 04:39 GMT
#499
On July 16 2011 13:34 Karak wrote:
Fayth,

Someone said earlier ITT Kiwi had 100% of himself. Guess that wasn't the case. Did he swap or sell action? What % does he have?

he has ~50% i believe
-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 04:39:28
July 16 2011 04:39 GMT
#500
It's also really hard to pull the trigger in a live tournament, the WSOP ME especially, that late for your entire stack. It's a lot easier for me to sit here at home and say that's an EZ shove than it is to be very deep in a WSOP event and do it. I've been there (not deep in the ME, but deep in other liv WSOP events, sunday mil, etc.). It's a lot of pressure.
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