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Undu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 04:54:05
July 29 2011 04:47 GMT
#101
Ok, big issue here: Please stop doing reruns during "live" casting if they are up as VODs, one exception I am fine with is if it's like main cast for US then one rerun for EU at EU times(and or other time zones). But please stop with all the constant reruns( for adprofit? or whatever). Due to me constantly tuning in to reruns I have stopped watching IPL altogether.



Also, you should try to label it better on TL when you are streaming, like IPL 2 WR/WB Day x and IPL 2 LR/LB Day x / IPL WB Day 2 EU Recast for example. And always try to be in the ON AIR: section as opposed to the Live user streams section.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 13:47:58
August 03 2011 13:46 GMT
#102
edit: nevermind, calendar ftw.
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 14:36:23
August 03 2011 14:32 GMT
#103
bring in some new maps! superouman probably knows a ton of great maps being part of the map-making community. i'm sure he could suggest a few good ones. or just check out the MotM, Iccup or TPW maps
that would give me a reason to watch ipl more often and make it stand out from the large number of tournaments in sc2.
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 03 2011 15:18 GMT
#104
Add Korean qualifiers and interest will increase twofold.
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
August 03 2011 15:49 GMT
#105
Is it just me, or is it not clear what is happening on IPLTV? I knew it was team league yesterday because of a thread here. I have no idea what is going on with IPL2, never being certain when I tune in if it's a IPL2 match, or just a random(?) cast or re-run.
Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
August 03 2011 18:06 GMT
#106

Suggestions

Painuser needs to look into the camera, any good caster does this a lot

Maybe a bit of a dress-code, casual-formal seems to work best

CaptainSmail
Profile Joined April 2011
United States18 Posts
August 03 2011 18:15 GMT
#107
The lack of a schedule is just so so so ridiculous. There needs to be a full schedule, come on IGN!
"I want to take a shot off your belly button, Tasteless!" - Artossis
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
August 03 2011 18:36 GMT
#108
Stop doing reruns. Having it run constantly doesn't mean it's good content. Quality over quanity. Though it's best if you combine both.

Soundproof the casting area, it's not like I'm there to listen to the "sounds of San Fran" mixtape. Although the casters do a wonderful job of masking it with jokes etc.
Team Operations Director for CheckSix Gaming
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
August 03 2011 18:37 GMT
#109
INCLUDE BETTER PLAYERS

aka Koreans lol

it gives the tournament a LOT more prestige as discussed by State of the game. oh hey idra won IPL 1 ...but eh... doesnt really matter b.c. not even close of the best were there.
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
August 03 2011 18:42 GMT
#110
On August 04 2011 03:37 SpecFire wrote:
INCLUDE BETTER PLAYERS

aka Koreans lol

it gives the tournament a LOT more prestige as discussed by State of the game. oh hey idra won IPL 1 ...but eh... doesnt really matter b.c. not even close of the best were there.


I believe they have repeatedly said they are doing it in stages so they do it right. Season 1 was NA only. Season 2 is NA and EU. Season 3 is all regions
Team Operations Director for CheckSix Gaming
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
August 03 2011 18:51 GMT
#111
On August 04 2011 03:37 SpecFire wrote:
INCLUDE BETTER PLAYERS

aka Koreans lol

it gives the tournament a LOT more prestige as discussed by State of the game. oh hey idra won IPL 1 ...but eh... doesnt really matter b.c. not even close of the best were there.


I disagree, not that I'm against seeing Koreans play. But I already have MLG, GSL, NASL, ICCUP.tv. I like having a predominantly NA/EU scene. It becomes especially stale if there is only a couple of Koreans in it and they just dominate everyone else. I like a little variety.

Yes, everyone needs to pick up their game to compete with Korean level. But the infrastructure is only beginning to show up outside of Korea. And even if every team had a house, practice 10hrs a day, etcetera, we're still probably 1-2yrs before matching them.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
August 03 2011 21:11 GMT
#112
It's hard for me to follow IPL for some reason. I think I watched it this season for the first couple of days then lost track of it. When I do see it on, it seems like it's something totally different (IPL tv?) or a re-run. There's like no hype to it; like right now I don't know who's playing who and how far in the bracket the IPL is in. One day I saw incontrol versus isjecho (sp?) and I was confused because I was pretty sure neither was in the IPL. So I figured out it was something totally different from the league itself but with a similar name I guess; it ended up being a boring game and threw me off watching IPL stuff all together. My suggestion is to give it a different name.

Then the hype of the IPL seems very low. With the NASL, I was only hyped during the finals but during the season the hype wasn't really needed. You can always tune in when you want and get to see good players like the koreans playing when you have time. Since the IPL doesn't have the skill pool of other tournaments, they need some sort of hype. I'm just not feeling it, no one really talks a lot about IPL. None of the podcasts and shows like State of the Game ever mentions it at all. You lose a lot of excitement also when everything done in the IPL is NOT LIVE. As far as I know, the tournament has been finished already? It's missing some sort of x-factor to make fans excited about this league. If you know the talent pool is not as good, there has to be something different that makes the league stand out. To me it's sort of like watching a youtube cast but with higher production.


On August 04 2011 03:51 VillageBC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 03:37 SpecFire wrote:
INCLUDE BETTER PLAYERS

aka Koreans lol

it gives the tournament a LOT more prestige as discussed by State of the game. oh hey idra won IPL 1 ...but eh... doesnt really matter b.c. not even close of the best were there.


I disagree, not that I'm against seeing Koreans play. But I already have MLG, GSL, NASL, ICCUP.tv. I like having a predominantly NA/EU scene. It becomes especially stale if there is only a couple of Koreans in it and they just dominate everyone else. I like a little variety.

Yes, everyone needs to pick up their game to compete with Korean level. But the infrastructure is only beginning to show up outside of Korea. And even if every team had a house, practice 10hrs a day, etcetera, we're still probably 1-2yrs before matching them.


Well, your view may be in the minority. I saw code A qualifiers pull in equal number of viewers as IPL. You start to forget the IPL has a large prize pool and the qualifiers are just a qualifier. Even if people don't enjoy Korean domination, allowing them in the tournament allows fans to see how foreigners compare and creates a situation where fans are excited to see a goliath versus david situation.


you live and you learn
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
August 03 2011 21:40 GMT
#113
Well, here's the most basic schedule there is. We start our new content at the same time every day, and that's 00:00 GMT (+00:00). The re-broadcasts always begin at 16:30 GMT (+00:00).
  • Monday: IPL TV
  • Tuesday: IPL Team Arena
  • Wednesday: IPL TV
  • Thursday: IPL 2 Main Event
  • Friday: IPL 2 Main Event
  • Saturday: IPL 2 Main Event
  • Sunday: IPL 2 Main Event


So, Monday and Wednesday are IPL TV. There are roughly two hours of new, live casts of viewer submitted and pro replays, before we begin airing content that you may have seen before either from previous IPL TV shows or IPL 2 Main Event games.

Tuesdays are IPL Team Arena, which is our winner's style king of the hill weekly team showmatch. Those games are cast live until they are completed, then re-aired content.

Thursday through Sunday, again starting at 00:00 GMT (+00:00), are main event games and the calendar has always been available at http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/calendar =)

Hope this clears things up!
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 21:10:51
August 06 2011 21:09 GMT
#114
It has been said already, but I will mention this again, because it's really easy to fix:

You HAVE to get yourselves listed in the "ON AIR" section and NOT in the "Live user streams". If this is only an issue for the EU restream I'm sorry, but that's when I notice it

I - as probably many - don't keep track of schedules and just visit TL to see what's up. So I've missed this many times because I just took a quick glimpse into the "ON AIR" section. I know, it's to a large extent my fault to not looking the event up, but getting the cast listed properly shouldn't be a big deal, no?
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
August 08 2011 01:45 GMT
#115
On August 07 2011 06:09 sleepingdog wrote:
It has been said already, but I will mention this again, because it's really easy to fix:

You HAVE to get yourselves listed in the "ON AIR" section and NOT in the "Live user streams". If this is only an issue for the EU restream I'm sorry, but that's when I notice it

I - as probably many - don't keep track of schedules and just visit TL to see what's up. So I've missed this many times because I just took a quick glimpse into the "ON AIR" section. I know, it's to a large extent my fault to not looking the event up, but getting the cast listed properly shouldn't be a big deal, no?


Yes, we're sorry for this yesterday, this was the only time the EU broadcast did not get its event properly listed, the rest of the time we've been under the On Air section.
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
synkronized
Profile Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 11:16:02
August 08 2011 11:01 GMT
#116
Most of the feedback in the front page covered what I had in mind.

I would say I like the steam punk theme of the IPL as well as season 1's comic book style. Having a specific theme to the overlay and vids adds more character to the tournament, which I definitely appreciate. Compare that to the GSL which, despite their high budget, uses a nauseating "EXTREME!!" high octane design with atrocious rock ballad music which I absolutely despise. It really feels like your overlays are fun and slightly tongue in cheek, which provides a nice flavor compared to the all of other Tourneys which go for a super professional look and wind up feeling a bit sterile at times.

Web site design - It would have helped to make the Season 2 IPL site Steam punk themed like the game overlay in order to provide some visual cohesion. As of now the steam punk theme clashes with the IPL's modern style site design. Neither one's bad mind you, but the lack of a unified aesthetic theme hurts both.

Interviews - They're some of the better interviews I've seen. I like that you use guys who know the game to conduct interviews and I actually find hosting it in that bar/club locale to be pleasant and more laid back. Something about the atmosphere feels more natural than those awkward interviews in cushy chairs on a tv show style stage or the ones right after a player's finished a Best of set.

PS CatsPajamas has done a great job BUT he needs to ditch the chin puff. Chin puffs are foul nasty things, keep the facial hair trimmed short and neat.
wellAdjusted
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
August 08 2011 13:34 GMT
#117
I've found it hard to follow so far. Maybe put more info in the up coming events section. For example GSL has the matchups listed. I'd probably watch more if I knew beforehand who was playing without having to go out of my way to find out.
"Rock is imba, but paper is ok..." - Scissors
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 12 2011 00:51 GMT
#118
Here's what I think is bad about this tournament:
- Too dragged out, why couldn't you broadcast it in 2 weeks or something? No need to drag it out, all the weird filler days are just confusing imo.
- Why so much lag time? I know you want to have good production but a whole month is pretty much, all games even uses the same template so I can't imagine why 2 days or something wouldn't be enough :s Honestly I think it could have been live as well without major problems.
- No Koreans. Seriously.
SaSe fan club manager
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
August 13 2011 00:24 GMT
#119
didn't realize this tournament had already progressed this far =.=
definitely needs way more hype. seems pretty lackluster in terms of prestige.
i see alot of outdated builds/talks, quite the turn off given the pace of the metagame shifts atm.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
August 13 2011 00:34 GMT
#120
-Tournament is extremely dragged out
For some viewers it's extremely intolerable to watch games you know happened several weeks ago, your trying to present it more like a 'sport' almost UFC like, well the truth is unlike sport fans, most gaming fans also PLAY the game and watch these matches to learn the metagame and not just be entertained, it's not exactly fun to watch players lose to strategies that have already been figured out.

-Some of the casting is borderline fake
The casting is fairly top notch, but I cringe when I hear some of the IPL in house casters grossly exaggerate advantages just to claim a comeback when it really wasn't, turns me off.

-Very hard to follow
Due to the length its hard to tell when certain matches are happening and what have already taken place because sometimes IPL tv is broadcasted right after the IPL happens and you don't know if your watching tournament matches or random replays even though its being broadcast under IPL Day X on the Teamliquid side bar.

-Live report threads not having updated results
Sometimes the results arn't updated in the Live Report thread, I'm pretty sure its against the rules to open a Live Report thread if your not going to keep it updated. JOSHY!

Also the steampunk thing is atrocious but that's just an opinion
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