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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 13 2011 20:37 GMT
#801
Well Sheth said on State of the Game that he wants to try again in Korea in the future so maybe there is hope for him yet :D
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
July 13 2011 20:39 GMT
#802
the best part is that the foreigners doesn't need to come to korea. the koreans are willing to travel and make some extra money from foreigners that arn't on the same level as koreans.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
July 13 2011 20:51 GMT
#803
How about people complaining about lack of ambition in "foreigners" get good enough to go to Korea and then do so?

Just a bunch of people complaining when they're haven't even done the work to actually be able to go to Korea.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 13 2011 20:58 GMT
#804
Sheth you better stay in korea or someone else will!!!!

Sad it didn't work out but it's his life and his choices.
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
July 13 2011 22:03 GMT
#805
Watching the videos from the team houses, where it's typical that Korean players sleep on the floor, have multiple guys to one bedroom...I can kinda see how moving from home to that type of environment would be a huge shock to your system.

Who knows how FXO's teamhouse was setup, maybe it was setup to be more foreigner-friendly, but what I'm trying to say is, it probably wasn't any one thing that bothered Sheth enough for him to throw in the towel. It was surely a snowball little things here and there, and finally the homesickness topped it all off, and decision to leave was simply the light at the end of the tunnel.

You work hard, only to see that it's a life not worth living.

So you GG now, before it's too late.
Canada
Xariann
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Italy54 Posts
July 13 2011 22:37 GMT
#806
On July 14 2011 07:03 D_K_night wrote:
Watching the videos from the team houses, where it's typical that Korean players sleep on the floor, have multiple guys to one bedroom...I can kinda see how moving from home to that type of environment would be a huge shock to your system.

Who knows how FXO's teamhouse was setup, maybe it was setup to be more foreigner-friendly, but what I'm trying to say is, it probably wasn't any one thing that bothered Sheth enough for him to throw in the towel. It was surely a snowball little things here and there, and finally the homesickness topped it all off, and decision to leave was simply the light at the end of the tunnel.

You work hard, only to see that it's a life not worth living.

So you GG now, before it's too late.


Yeah that actually makes a lot of sense. I hope we'll get to see him in "our" tournaments then, such as Dreamhack and MLG, and possibly next NASL. I actually didn't check the info on the second season, it's been so busy for me in the last few days that I feel I need to take a deep breath.

Every time I watch some tournament with friends, I think we all pretty much root for him when we see him.

We like Sheth!
"Roach + Immortal are pretty good against Stalkers" EG.IdrA, MLG Columbus 2011
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 13 2011 22:42 GMT
#807
On July 14 2011 07:37 Xariann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 07:03 D_K_night wrote:
Watching the videos from the team houses, where it's typical that Korean players sleep on the floor, have multiple guys to one bedroom...I can kinda see how moving from home to that type of environment would be a huge shock to your system.

Who knows how FXO's teamhouse was setup, maybe it was setup to be more foreigner-friendly, but what I'm trying to say is, it probably wasn't any one thing that bothered Sheth enough for him to throw in the towel. It was surely a snowball little things here and there, and finally the homesickness topped it all off, and decision to leave was simply the light at the end of the tunnel.

You work hard, only to see that it's a life not worth living.

So you GG now, before it's too late.


Yeah that actually makes a lot of sense. I hope we'll get to see him in "our" tournaments then, such as Dreamhack and MLG, and possibly next NASL. I actually didn't check the info on the second season, it's been so busy for me in the last few days that I feel I need to take a deep breath.

Every time I watch some tournament with friends, I think we all pretty much root for him when we see him.

We like Sheth!

You mean the tournaments where Koreans now go an win everything (usually top3 spots that give most money)
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
July 14 2011 00:27 GMT
#808
I think FXO should think seriously at Sheth's complaints and consider creating a team house. I know they have a FXO mansion but how viable is it since its not located near Soul? Also this goes on GOM's shoulders for not finding a bigger place to house FXO. They should have done everything in their power to accomodate FXO comfortably.
unholykiller
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
July 14 2011 13:29 GMT
#809
That is totally understandable. Its not worth suffering through if you dont think it will help you. I wanna see you tearing up some upcoming tournys. <3 and also i miss seeing on the stream :D <33333333333
IMMvc
Profile Joined July 2011
1 Post
July 14 2011 15:14 GMT
#810
No victory without sacrifice...
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
July 15 2011 05:41 GMT
#811
I read pretty much every post in this entire thread, including Sheth's explainations.
This whole thing is pretty laughable.

1) I wanted to install rosetta stone but they didn't have CDROM drives (when you buy rosetta stone online you download it, if you bought a retail copy you can still download the media files and use your key on the sleeve)

2) I wanted to go home after the GSTL but learned due to flight restrictions I would have to experience Korea an additional two weeks. This is unacceptable.

3) Korea is for people who are about 5 foot 1 inch and roughly 98lbs dripping wet

All being said, it's completely obvious to anyone paying attention to this that Sheth offered to sleep over your house, but then called his mom and asked for her to come pick him up. He knows it's a dick move, but he's doing it anyways.

You put faith in people, and then they bring their personal problems to work. Time was, shame would keep this behavior in check. Seems like shame has been nerfed over the past couple decades
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
July 15 2011 05:47 GMT
#812
On July 14 2011 09:27 onedayclose wrote:
I think FXO should think seriously at Sheth's complaints and consider creating a team house. I know they have a FXO mansion but how viable is it since its not located near Soul? Also this goes on GOM's shoulders for not finding a bigger place to house FXO. They should have done everything in their power to accomodate FXO comfortably.


GOM has had this house since long before FXO moved into it. It was made for invidiual foreigners to come over and compete in the GSL, not for whole teams to. FXO was aware of what they were getting into when they decided to go, it's not GOM's fault at all.
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FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
July 15 2011 13:58 GMT
#813
On July 11 2011 16:33 Destiny wrote:
Sheth not honoring team contract to play in GSTL?

Y U DESTROYING E-SPORTS, BRO?


Nearly 40 pages ago now, but im still laughing

Im sure Sheth thought it though properly before making his decision, hopefully it's all turn out good for him!
GinjaNinja.661 EU I'd like to thank my sh*t keyyboard for always messing up my 'Y's
brxnd0n
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
July 15 2011 14:06 GMT
#814
Cant wait for sheth to be back in the states. I missed watching his stream regularly xD


GL with everything you choose to do Sheth!
abyssGaming
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
July 16 2011 01:48 GMT
#815
I'm not sure if I would stay in korea if I was sheth either. No chance to really win the GSTL games with FXOPENS korean team. also- in terms of general respect and living I'm not sure what the stigma is about weight or being fat but I could see some korean youths being treacherous to sheth on the streets.
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toastnbutter
Profile Joined June 2011
United States62 Posts
July 16 2011 02:00 GMT
#816
On State of the Game, Sheth said his mom actually reads the forums to keep up with what's going on with Sheth. It makes me sad that she might've seen all the negative crap some of you guys wrote about him. Now that's a mom who cares and supports his son for being in e-sports. Could you blame the guy for missing his family?
Argolis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada211 Posts
July 16 2011 02:23 GMT
#817
All you bronze keyboard warriors should go to korea and show Sheth what dedication and hard work really means.
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
July 16 2011 02:37 GMT
#818
Such a shame....
that people are so happy to talk shit about someone who.. you know... actually tried to do something.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
July 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#819
On July 15 2011 14:41 OPL3SA2 wrote:
I read pretty much every post in this entire thread, including Sheth's explainations.
This whole thing is pretty laughable.

1) I wanted to install rosetta stone but they didn't have CDROM drives (when you buy rosetta stone online you download it, if you bought a retail copy you can still download the media files and use your key on the sleeve)

2) I wanted to go home after the GSTL but learned due to flight restrictions I would have to experience Korea an additional two weeks. This is unacceptable.

3) Korea is for people who are about 5 foot 1 inch and roughly 98lbs dripping wet

All being said, it's completely obvious to anyone paying attention to this that Sheth offered to sleep over your house, but then called his mom and asked for her to come pick him up. He knows it's a dick move, but he's doing it anyways.

You put faith in people, and then they bring their personal problems to work. Time was, shame would keep this behavior in check. Seems like shame has been nerfed over the past couple decades


How is it laughable at all? It is Sheth's personal choice to go home for many different reasons which are his own. You can go on and on about what you might have done in his shoes, but the fact of the matter is that he is going back to America for MLG and the like.

1. Sheth's issues with Rosetta Stone were completely legitimate for him. Perhaps he could have downloaded the program off of some external server, but Rosetta Stone is an expensive investment regardless. I'm sure that if Sheth wants to go to Korea for any great length of time he would like to learn about the culture and immerse himself in the Korean lifestyle. Language is the barrier which bars him from doing this.

2. With MLG Anaheim coming up, Sheth wanted to be able to spend time with his family before playing over in America. Certainly he could have stayed in Korea for the remainder of that time, but it is understandable why he took the early flight home rather than wait. After all there were other conditions which he was not particularly happy with at the time as well, and besides, MLG is tiring in and of itself. Nothing like some family time to prepare yourself for it.

3. That is a pretty silly statement. Sheth explained that he enjoyed Korea, but some of the living conditions weren't for him. Maybe some people do not like to be cramped together in a small room, no?

And what is all this about shame and other crap? Sheth did stay in Korea for the majority of his prescribed travel time. Sure he did not stay and watch the rest of his team play in the GSTL, but that was his choice. Get over it. It sure does annoy me when some people make these hardcore posts detailing exactly what should happen without putting themselves in their target's shoes. Be a bit more lenient. After all, I believe Sheth said that he would like to go to Korea again after he has had a bit more time to prepare himself for the experience.

And as for all that crap about sleeping over and what not, it's more like Sheth came over to your house for five days out of the week and then requested to go home for the last two so that he could see his family for a couple days before going back to school....
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
gosu86
Profile Joined June 2011
208 Posts
July 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#820
On July 16 2011 11:58 [5th]Sybaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 14:41 OPL3SA2 wrote:
I read pretty much every post in this entire thread, including Sheth's explainations.
This whole thing is pretty laughable.

1) I wanted to install rosetta stone but they didn't have CDROM drives (when you buy rosetta stone online you download it, if you bought a retail copy you can still download the media files and use your key on the sleeve)

2) I wanted to go home after the GSTL but learned due to flight restrictions I would have to experience Korea an additional two weeks. This is unacceptable.

3) Korea is for people who are about 5 foot 1 inch and roughly 98lbs dripping wet

All being said, it's completely obvious to anyone paying attention to this that Sheth offered to sleep over your house, but then called his mom and asked for her to come pick him up. He knows it's a dick move, but he's doing it anyways.

You put faith in people, and then they bring their personal problems to work. Time was, shame would keep this behavior in check. Seems like shame has been nerfed over the past couple decades


How is it laughable at all? It is Sheth's personal choice to go home for many different reasons which are his own. You can go on and on about what you might have done in his shoes, but the fact of the matter is that he is going back to America for MLG and the like.

1. Sheth's issues with Rosetta Stone were completely legitimate for him. Perhaps he could have downloaded the program off of some external server, but Rosetta Stone is an expensive investment regardless. I'm sure that if Sheth wants to go to Korea for any great length of time he would like to learn about the culture and immerse himself in the Korean lifestyle. Language is the barrier which bars him from doing this.

2. With MLG Anaheim coming up, Sheth wanted to be able to spend time with his family before playing over in America. Certainly he could have stayed in Korea for the remainder of that time, but it is understandable why he took the early flight home rather than wait. After all there were other conditions which he was not particularly happy with at the time as well, and besides, MLG is tiring in and of itself. Nothing like some family time to prepare yourself for it.

3. That is a pretty silly statement. Sheth explained that he enjoyed Korea, but some of the living conditions weren't for him. Maybe some people do not like to be cramped together in a small room, no?

And what is all this about shame and other crap? Sheth did stay in Korea for the majority of his prescribed travel time. Sure he did not stay and watch the rest of his team play in the GSTL, but that was his choice. Get over it. It sure does annoy me when some people make these hardcore posts detailing exactly what should happen without putting themselves in their target's shoes. Be a bit more lenient. After all, I believe Sheth said that he would like to go to Korea again after he has had a bit more time to prepare himself for the experience.

And as for all that crap about sleeping over and what not, it's more like Sheth came over to your house for five days out of the week and then requested to go home for the last two so that he could see his family for a couple days before going back to school....


i don't really care for reason 2 and 3 but reason 1 come on thats ridiculous lol
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