EPTThe reason I hate you is cause I won't be able to watch and steal your builds so... in order to win me back... I order you to update your site will all new replays!!!! :D
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GSL wildcard tourney Sheth forfeits Ryung advances - Page 5
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Konsume
Canada466 Posts
The reason I hate you is cause I won't be able to watch and steal your builds so... in order to win me back... I order you to update your site will all new replays!!!! :D ♥♥ | ||
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On July 05 2011 17:18 snafoo wrote: What are you talking about? The guy was saying you can make more money outside Korea by competing in online tournaments, and I pointed out that these online tournaments he talks about have been dominated by Koreans recently who have won them thus disproving that there is more money to be made by living in the US/outside Korea. Sure, it's probably harder to play in them compared to playing in them from the US due to the latency, but it's not impossible to win at all. Very few pros (next to none) rely on tournament winnings to make money. Most do it through a team salary or streaming or both. | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
THE GREATH SHETH? THE LAPBOARDER HAS RETURNED! SECURE THE WALLS! I stayed up to watch you the other week and it was quite worth it  GG's and Sheth Fighting! | ||
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videogames
United States103 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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videogames
United States103 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:44 GreEny K wrote: Hope Ryung get's it! GL He already has... | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On July 05 2011 16:58 Sheth wrote: Do you hate Korean players who come to play temporarily in USA or Europe because the foreign tournament invited them? Let me give you an example, Losira took 2nd in the last MLG. He has enough points to be seeded and play in the "Group stages -- Comparitive to Code A" and now if he doesn't get an invite and no1 pays him to stay in the US, would you be mad that he chose to stay in his home country? Would you say how dare Losira not take it seriously? AND how did I not take it seriously? I hate that comment, considering i played and treated it as seriously as possible. I agree you played very well it wasnt the part you played that you didnt take seriously i was cheering for you the whole way man, yelling jumping up and screaming as you decimated san Im just as big of a sheth fan as the next guy. I am just a little dissapointed that you werent planning on going all the way with it i guess. Im not saying get into code s and stay in korea for half a year, thats a huge commitment but at least TRY in the wildcard tournament and see what happens. By not taking it seriously, i by no means meant your games you played great i meant the fact that it seems like you just gave up and didnt want the second chance it seems that you werent planning on trying to take a serious run at the GSL considering even if you made it into code s you dont know if you would have stayed, i would call that not taking it seriously especially in comparison to other GSL players. (I dont think there is a single other foreigner whos competed in the gsl before that would have declined the wild card tournament) For every other foreigner competing their goal was Code S it seems as if yours was lets just see how i do in code a and then go home regardless (again you werent really clear about weather you would have stayed if you made it into code s or not but it seems you were leaning more towards going home either way)You said there was a possibility of you staying if you made it into code s. Why not try out for the wildcard tournament then. It seems like you were just like " ah fuck it" from an outsiders point of view especially a fans its very easy to see how we would be dissapointed , you were planning on competing in code a to try and get a spot in code s and maybe compete for a month (or at least you said there is a possibility that would have happened) then yoou get knocked out 1 round before qualifying for the up and down matches and they give you a second chance with the wildcard tournament and you pass it up. I just dont get what has changed in the past few days like obviously if you made it to the round of 8 you would have played in the up and downs for a shot at code s. Clearly your fans are going to be dissapointed when it seems your attitude is "meh w/e i wanna go home" to getting a second chance at the most competitive tournament in the world (with the largest prize pool) Many other players would have JUMPED at that chance , do you think naniwa or thorzain would have declined had they been given a second chance at code s? I highly doubt it and your fans expect nothing less out of you. I respect your decisions but i just dont see why your surprised that you have dissapointed fans out there. Also regarding the losira thing, thats a terrible terrible comparison and i can bet you if MLG was somehow a similair format to GSL (wich it isnt and the prize pool is also ridiculously smaller , gsl gives out twice as much money to their round of 32 code s players then MLG does in their whole tournament) and they said , "hey losira you want to stick around for another week to see if you can make it into a tournament to win 50k next month? oh and we will give you a place to stay for free" your telling me you dont think him or any other proffesional korean gamer wouldnt jump at the chance? Especially considering they wouldnt be missing any other tournaments (at least big ones) by doing so? I dunno man i think thats a stretch like MR. Chae has said if the roles were reversed and GSL was in say LA you can bet your buttons you would see players like Nestea and Losira travelling their to follow their dreams and their passions. I think your understating the dedication of some of these korean players. And going back to MLG for a chance to win 5k with nothing payed for isnt really a sound decision. In korea you guys have the gom house to stay at indefinitely and your team is supporting you out there seems like you got it pretty good man. Also i know you have to go to the NASL finals next week so maybe that played into your decisions im surprised you didnt mention it as one of your reasons though because i think alot more people would have understood if you just said that, im just realising it now in fact. FXO still has more games after the NASL finals though so i assume you are travelling back to korea afterwards? I really hope you go back and give it another shot, but will you ever even get an opportunity like this again? Especially with a second chance, i doubt it. | ||
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On July 06 2011 17:41 whaty0uwant wrote: Come awn luvsic Its already over, Ryung won Thats why the title says Ryung advances, there wasnt enough room to type "Ryung advances to the up and downs" unfortunately | ||
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BrahCJ
Australia659 Posts
If you've ever recieved a promotion that calls you away from your home and family, or if you've ever been told you can't study "that" course in your home state, you will know what Sheth had to weigh up here. Without the preperation that Sheth mentioned earlier, its pretty hard to put your life on indefinate hold, while you "wait and see" if you get Code S or not. Particularly when eSports in NA is simply exploding. Speaking financially, why any foreigner would want to be in Korea now without being a PRIME (top 8 in the world) player is beyond me. So much expense, time, and risk, for such little reward. Let Sheth make the decision. He doesn't diserve any bullshit backlash from any of you. He hasn't made you any promises, and you don't have a right to expect anything from him. Same bullcrap shitstorm happened when IdrA left Korea. I don' t know why you think you have the right to tell these people, who feed in a lot of their time, effort, and money, what to do/where to go. | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:04 two.watup wrote: Wasn't there already a thread for this that wasn't spoiled in the title? Its not like you can watch it so i dont see whats "spoiler" about it. I mean you can either read it here or on the gom site, no where to watch it though. | ||
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Swwww
Switzerland812 Posts
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W2
United States1177 Posts
On July 06 2011 17:48 BrahCJ wrote: I am very confused at the angle people are choosing to take here. If you've ever recieved a promotion that calls you away from your home and family, or if you've ever been told you can't study "that" course in your home state, you will know what Sheth had to weigh up here. Without the preperation that Sheth mentioned earlier, its pretty hard to put your life on indefinate hold, while you "wait and see" if you get Code S or not. Particularly when eSports in NA is simply exploding. Speaking financially, why any foreigner would want to be in Korea now without being a PRIME (top 8 in the world) player is beyond me. So much expense, time, and risk, for such little reward. Let Sheth make the decision. He doesn't diserve any bullshit backlash from any of you. He hasn't made you any promises, and you don't have a right to expect anything from him. Same bullcrap shitstorm happened when IdrA left Korea. I don' t know why you think you have the right to tell these people, who feed in a lot of their time, effort, and money, what to do/where to go. Actually people were excited about IdrA coming back to the US and many embraced it. In this case I think the people causing the shitstorm are actually Sheth's fans, since they want to see him make it big, and winning GSL is exactly that. For regular people like me, I don't really care whether he stays or withdraws, he won't be winning it anyway. | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On July 06 2011 17:55 W2 wrote: Actually people were excited about IdrA coming back to the US and many embraced it. In this case I think the people causing the shitstorm are actually Sheth's fans, since they want to see him make it big, and winning GSL is exactly that. For regular people like me, I don't really care whether he stays or withdraws, he won't be winning it anyway. I agree, I think people were just under the assumption that he was planning on taking a shot at code s and were surprised when he passed up an opportunity at a second chance (considering how many players would die to have a chance at that) obviously its his choice but i think if it was more clear that he would have been going home either way then there wouldnt have been surprised fans out there. I think alot of people just expected he would be going into it with the same dedicatioin as naniwa or thorzain or any other foreigner who has or will be participating in code a seem to have (they both are going there to try and get into code s, not to just participate in code a and leave) its an easy assumption to make considering the attitudes of pretty much everyone else has towards code a which is that it is a means to get into code s and participate in the most competitive sc2 tournament on the planet. | ||
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