I will also say, its pretty low that even considering I'm taking the time to explain this, and I still have people saying basically "you're lieing!!!" or "why would you take someone else's code a spot". You know its NOT my decision. Its GOM's. If you have a problem with who they choose, why don't you complain to them.
If you didn't even know 100% if you were going to stay (saying you might stay if you got Code S) how would GOM? Either way I enjoyed your games and I like you on stream, it just seems like you are very indecisive about what you actually want your goals as a player and person to be, and there is nothing wrong with that.
I will also say, its pretty low that even considering I'm taking the time to explain this, and I still have people saying basically "you're lieing!!!" or "why would you take someone else's code a spot". You know its NOT my decision. Its GOM's. If you have a problem with who they choose, why don't you complain to them.
If you didn't even know 100% if you were going to stay (saying you might stay if you got Code S) how would GOM? Either way I enjoyed your games and I like you on stream, it just seems like you are very indecisive about what you actually want your goals as a player and person to be, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Oh Duravi, you don't understand the situation. I shoudln't have to explain every single detail to you. What I said there was something along the lines of if I'd gotten code S I might have stayed, you took this as "you told gom you might stay omg!" However what I actually said HERE was if I made code S I might have changed my mind. I told Josh (My boss who applied for Code A for me) that I would only be staying for 1 month. My goals as a player and a person to be aren't indecisive. I just wasn't sure if I would have put forth a crazy effort to stay in code S if I'd made it. Who knows what would have happened, I don't know, I've never been code S.
Its amazing how you can take what I say and turn it into something like "Sheth lied to GSL or Sheth doesn't know what hes doing!" When in actuality this has all been planned out for me since before I went to Korea. My only "Fault" was in not telling the foreign community my entire intentions and plans at Korea before I went. But then again I shouldn't have to.
Really sad that Sheth won't be playing more, but not surprised. He has been clear from the start that he has no real intentions to stay in korea indefinitely. If he just breezed through code A I'm sure he might reconsider, but as is, his choice is quite understandable.
Its amazing how you can take what I say and turn it into something like "Sheth lied to GSL or Sheth doesn't know what hes doing!" When in actuality this has all been planned out for me since before I went to Korea. My only "Fault" was in not telling the foreign community my entire intentions and plans at Korea before I went. But then again I shouldn't have to.
Fair enough, apologies on the speculation. We have so few foreigners in korea I think I think I probably focus too much on it and was dissapointed to hear you wouldn't be back. Good luck on your return!
^ Seriously, everyone here raging against Sheth should really be raging against GOM. It seems like Sheth was totally upfront about what he wanted/expected, but GOM knew of his popularity within the foreign scene and wanted to showcase him to pull in more viewers.
I will also say, its pretty low that even considering I'm taking the time to explain this, and I still have people saying basically "you're lieing!!!" or "why would you take someone else's code a spot". You know its NOT my decision. Its GOM's. If you have a problem with who they choose, why don't you complain to them.
If you didn't even know 100% if you were going to stay (saying you might stay if you got Code S) how would GOM? Either way I enjoyed your games and I like you on stream, it just seems like you are very indecisive about what you actually want your goals as a player and person to be, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Oh Duravi, you don't understand the situation. I shoudln't have to explain every single detail to you. What I said there was something along the lines of if I'd gotten code S I might have stayed, you took this as "you told gom you might stay omg!" However what I actually said HERE was if I made code S I might have changed my mind. I told Josh (My boss who applied for Code A for me) that I would only be staying for 1 month. My goals as a player and a person to be aren't indecisive. I just wasn't sure if I would have put forth a crazy effort to stay in code S if I'd made it. Who knows what would have happened, I don't know, I've never been code S.
Its amazing how you can take what I say and turn it into something like "Sheth lied to GSL or Sheth doesn't know what hes doing!" When in actuality this has all been planned out for me since before I went to Korea. My only "Fault" was in not telling the foreign community my entire intentions and plans at Korea before I went. But then again I shouldn't have to.
Don't worry about it Sheth. There'll always be people who criticise without thinking. Your reasoning here seems perfectly fair to me, and I like to think the majority of TL would say the same.
I will also say, its pretty low that even considering I'm taking the time to explain this, and I still have people saying basically "you're lieing!!!" or "why would you take someone else's code a spot". You know its NOT my decision. Its GOM's. If you have a problem with who they choose, why don't you complain to them.
If you didn't even know 100% if you were going to stay (saying you might stay if you got Code S) how would GOM? Either way I enjoyed your games and I like you on stream, it just seems like you are very indecisive about what you actually want your goals as a player and person to be, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Oh Duravi, you don't understand the situation. I shoudln't have to explain every single detail to you. What I said there was something along the lines of if I'd gotten code S I might have stayed, you took this as "you told gom you might stay omg!" However what I actually said HERE was if I made code S I might have changed my mind. I told Josh (My boss who applied for Code A for me) that I would only be staying for 1 month. My goals as a player and a person to be aren't indecisive. I just wasn't sure if I would have put forth a crazy effort to stay in code S if I'd made it. Who knows what would have happened, I don't know, I've never been code S.
Its amazing how you can take what I say and turn it into something like "Sheth lied to GSL or Sheth doesn't know what hes doing!" When in actuality this has all been planned out for me since before I went to Korea. My only "Fault" was in not telling the foreign community my entire intentions and plans at Korea before I went. But then again I shouldn't have to.
With the situation laid out as it is, ultimately the choice to give code A to lies with the teammanager. If Josh knew all facts and details and he decided to apply you to code A its his responsibility. And i understand you talking to your fans, but talk and inform don't try to reason with them. And that includes me being a fan aswell We choose to follow your performance based upon your game skill and personality, we as a group are heavily uninformed of your life situation to even decide what is wrong and what is right. So we shut up and admire your play
I for one would just like to say thank you to you for making the effort to go over to Korea in the first place and showing us some amazing games. My housemates and I have had an awesome time cheering you on in Code A. So much emotion!
I'll certainly be watching your games in whatever tournament they happen to be in the future. Although I would love to see you back in Korea at some point down the line after the GSTL, as long as you keep playing SC2 I will be happy!
To the people in this thread - please learn to respect another's decisions. Especially when they have taken the time to explain them to you humbly, and honestly.
I will also say, its pretty low that even considering I'm taking the time to explain this, and I still have people saying basically "you're lieing!!!" or "why would you take someone else's code a spot". You know its NOT my decision. Its GOM's. If you have a problem with who they choose, why don't you complain to them.
If you didn't even know 100% if you were going to stay (saying you might stay if you got Code S) how would GOM? Either way I enjoyed your games and I like you on stream, it just seems like you are very indecisive about what you actually want your goals as a player and person to be, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Oh Duravi, you don't understand the situation. I shoudln't have to explain every single detail to you. What I said there was something along the lines of if I'd gotten code S I might have stayed, you took this as "you told gom you might stay omg!" However what I actually said HERE was if I made code S I might have changed my mind. I told Josh (My boss who applied for Code A for me) that I would only be staying for 1 month. My goals as a player and a person to be aren't indecisive. I just wasn't sure if I would have put forth a crazy effort to stay in code S if I'd made it. Who knows what would have happened, I don't know, I've never been code S.
Its amazing how you can take what I say and turn it into something like "Sheth lied to GSL or Sheth doesn't know what hes doing!" When in actuality this has all been planned out for me since before I went to Korea. My only "Fault" was in not telling the foreign community my entire intentions and plans at Korea before I went. But then again I shouldn't have to.
Dood, you're worrying about people on forums nitpicking and giving their opinions on what you should do from their couch. Not worth it tbh.
You did a good job, you gained experience, and hopefully next time you'll be even more prepared. Kudos yo.
Dood, you're worrying about people on forums nitpicking and giving their opinions on what you should do from their couch. Not worth it tbh.
Yes I agreed even though I was the one who made a critical post, he was right and I was just speculating/nitpicking about stuff I didn't know, sorry! (and props to sheth for answering anyways)
Dood, you're worrying about people on forums nitpicking and giving their opinions on what you should do from their couch. Not worth it tbh.
Yes I agreed even though I was the one who made a critical post, he was right and I was just speculating/nitpicking about stuff I didn't know, sorry! (and props to sheth for answering anyways)
Thats a surprisingly welcome and unexpected post. TL-members will keep on surpising me.. Very nice Duravi.
please give sheth a break. He is one of very few foreigners who accepted the challenge that playing SC2 in korea is. Of course I want to see him staying/playing there longer, but if he has other plans right now, than thats how it is.
Instead of letting your negative emotions out, you should thank players like sheth for their effort and encourage him as well as other foreigners, who might read this thread, to take part in the GSL (again). fxo/huk/jinro fighting!
It occurs to me that having Sheth join the GSL was a gamble for a lot of people. For all we know, GSL is glad Sheth didn't make it into Code S... it's likely there was some undisclosed politicing involved in this whole process, both from GSL and FXO. In the end, everyone got what they wanted, and we (the fans) got some excellent games out of the deal.
Making a living as a Pro-SC2 player isn't easy, and sometimes you're only given bad choices. Sheth earned a couple of good choices, and had to pick one that met his long-term goals. Please stop criticizing him for looking longer term than one season in Korea.