EPTThe Official Live On Three Thread - Page 112
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Josh111
United States239 Posts
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Rezudox
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http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreeEpisode129/LiveOnThreeEpisode129.mp3 | ||
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AC3
Canada337 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OLKiG.jpg) Wheat bustin out the popcorn hahaha | ||
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thuracine
United States582 Posts
On August 23 2012 10:51 dabom88 wrote: I need to start watching more OSL, didn't even know about this until Wheat mentioned it. That was awesome!! have to love mc | ||
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Josh111
United States239 Posts
On August 23 2012 13:28 Rezudox wrote: Mp3 for Live on Three Episode 129: http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreeEpisode129/LiveOnThreeEpisode129.mp3 Tytyty! | ||
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Fabozi
Slovakia336 Posts
On August 23 2012 13:36 AC3 wrote: Oh man, Scoots digging into Slasher starting at 1:59. Priceless. Glad someone is calling out Slasher on his "Stephano->EG pretty much 100%" article without confirmation from the team or the player. Great episode as always gentlemen! Wheat bustin out the popcorn hahaha So you are okay with official announcements only? Slasher should quit his job right there if it was by your rules. | ||
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Slasher
United States1095 Posts
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On August 23 2012 22:09 Slasher wrote: When reporting on eSports, I look to traditional Sports media as my examples rather than non-sports journalism. Sports media traditionally, in all sports both US and Worldwide, use anonymous sources to verify trades and player signings. This includes all major media outlets a la ESPN, CBS Sports, FOX Sports, etc. When I have the opportunity to write 'a team executive', I do, and although still anonymous, an 'executive' is not a low level position, it is someone with authority within the organization. You can see this type of reporting throughout the sports sphere on a daily basis both on their sites, and through their Twitter's. I have also discussed eSports reporting of this same nature with friends of mine from ESPN and CBS Sports, and have found this to be of sound nature. I also stand by my sources at all times. If things go wrong, I will gladly take the heat, as it only hurts my reputation, and my outlet's reputation. i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it | ||
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
On August 23 2012 22:12 sertman wrote: i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it He's one of them EG and he is probably leveraging his "this isn't certain yet" point on a somewhat uneducated audience. This is what it sounds like at least, I haven't listened to the show yet. | ||
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Rezudox
207 Posts
On August 23 2012 22:12 sertman wrote: i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it I think the point Scoots was trying to make is that we have plenty of tabloid journalists in the world of professional gaming. He believes Slasher should hold himself to a higher standard because he is in a good position to do so. At least thats what I got from it. | ||
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McDrizzle
United States131 Posts
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On August 23 2012 23:09 Rezudox wrote: I think the point Scoots was trying to make is that we have plenty of tabloid journalists in the world of professional gaming. He believes Slasher should hold himself to a higher standard because he is in a good position to do so. At least thats what I got from it. anonymous sources isn't tabloid journalism. journalism as an industry is heavily dependent on people speaking anonymously. asking someone to reveal their source is asking the journalist to commit a heavy breach of trust to the source. you think if slasher gave up his sources anyone would tell him anything? nope. so what good is slasher then? what scoots was asking was unreasonable, and another case of EG being locked into their own perspective without seeing the bigger picture. | ||
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
On August 24 2012 02:57 sertman wrote: anonymous sources isn't tabloid journalism. journalism as an industry is heavily dependent on people speaking anonymously. asking someone to reveal their source is asking the journalist to commit a heavy breach of trust to the source. you think if slasher gave up his sources anyone would tell him anything? nope. so what good is slasher then? what scoots was asking was unreasonable, and another case of EG being locked into their own perspective without seeing the bigger picture. did we watch the same show? Scoots just didn't like that Slasher said that Stephano is 100% going to EG (done deal), instead of Stephano is 99% going to EG, because EG nor Stephano didn't tell him. I don't think Scoots was even interested in who this source really is. | ||
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Rezudox
207 Posts
On August 24 2012 02:57 sertman wrote: anonymous sources isn't tabloid journalism. journalism as an industry is heavily dependent on people speaking anonymously. asking someone to reveal their source is asking the journalist to commit a heavy breach of trust to the source. you think if slasher gave up his sources anyone would tell him anything? nope. so what good is slasher then? what scoots was asking was unreasonable, and another case of EG being locked into their own perspective without seeing the bigger picture. While I accept the need to keep sources secret Scoot's arguement was that Slasher's source could not have "known" as they were not a directly involved party. This mysterious "team executive" source, is in fact, a competitor to EG. Is it really responsible to use a competitors hearsay? | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 23 2012 22:09 Slasher wrote: When reporting on eSports, I look to traditional Sports media as my examples rather than non-sports journalism. Sports media traditionally, in all sports both US and Worldwide, use anonymous sources to verify trades and player signings. This includes all major media outlets a la ESPN, CBS Sports, FOX Sports, etc. When I have the opportunity to write 'a team executive', I do, and although still anonymous, an 'executive' is not a low level position, it is someone with authority within the organization. You can see this type of reporting throughout the sports sphere on a daily basis both on their sites, and through their Twitter's. I have also discussed eSports reporting of this same nature with friends of mine from ESPN and CBS Sports, and have found this to be of sound nature. I also stand by my sources at all times. If things go wrong, I will gladly take the heat, as it only hurts my reputation, and my outlet's reputation. I wrote that in the other thread, and I'm really glad you've echoed it. However, anonymous sources should be avoided at all costs. That traditional sports journalists do it isn't a good enough selling point to me; people like Peter King also spend thousands of words talking about coffee, football and 'that thing they read in the New York Times' in what's ostensibly a football piece. Their use basically comes down to the writer saying 'trust me'. And yeah, I trust you, but I'd trust you more if I knew who was so adamant that this was happening. That's especially true since (apparently) it wasn't anyone affiliated with the player or with EG. I don't know. It's not like this is a particularly big deal in the long run. We're not talking about outing undercover agents or infiltrating the Mafia or anything. I just hope journalists press their sources for identification unless there's a really, really good reason not to. Not wanting to be embarrassed isn't a good enough reason to my mind. | ||
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Flippin1337
Denmark20 Posts
Link: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/327933219 | ||
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Thurken
961 Posts
Sirscoots said that this announcement benefits reddit and TL the most but I think it benefits EG the most. Everyone is talking about EG and Stephano and if 1) Stephano goes to EG and EG couldn't state it before september, then it's nice for them since everyone is talking about them. 2) Stephano does not go to EG. It is still nice for them since everyone talk about them about since they officially tried their best not to say anything their image is preserved. In fact it would have been smart for EG to "leak" this information to create a big buzz around them! | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On August 30 2012 10:36 dabom88 wrote: Why is LO3 on and no one talking about it on this topic? Because it's not as much about SC2 so nobody on TL cares, unfortunately. | ||
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