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Josh111
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 02:18:43
August 23 2012 02:18 GMT
#2221
Must hve mp3! Stupid ipad lolol
Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
August 23 2012 04:28 GMT
#2222
Mp3 for Live on Three Episode 129:

http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreeEpisode129/LiveOnThreeEpisode129.mp3

AC3
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 04:40:51
August 23 2012 04:36 GMT
#2223
Oh man, Scoots digging into Slasher starting at 1:59. Priceless. Glad someone is calling out Slasher on his "Stephano->EG pretty much 100%" article without confirmation from the team or the player. Great episode as always gentlemen!

[image loading]

Wheat bustin out the popcorn hahaha
"The idea is to try to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another" -- Richard Feynman
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
August 23 2012 05:19 GMT
#2224
On August 23 2012 10:51 dabom88 wrote:


I need to start watching more OSL, didn't even know about this until Wheat mentioned it.



That was awesome!! have to love mc
Josh111
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
August 23 2012 12:26 GMT
#2225
On August 23 2012 13:28 Rezudox wrote:
Mp3 for Live on Three Episode 129:

http://archive.org/download/LiveOnThreeEpisode129/LiveOnThreeEpisode129.mp3



Tytyty!
Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 12:31:50
August 23 2012 12:30 GMT
#2226
On August 23 2012 13:36 AC3 wrote:
Oh man, Scoots digging into Slasher starting at 1:59. Priceless. Glad someone is calling out Slasher on his "Stephano->EG pretty much 100%" article without confirmation from the team or the player. Great episode as always gentlemen!
Wheat bustin out the popcorn hahaha

So you are okay with official announcements only? Slasher should quit his job right there if it was by your rules.
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
August 23 2012 13:09 GMT
#2227
When reporting on eSports, I look to traditional Sports media as my examples rather than non-sports journalism. Sports media traditionally, in all sports both US and Worldwide, use anonymous sources to verify trades and player signings. This includes all major media outlets a la ESPN, CBS Sports, FOX Sports, etc. When I have the opportunity to write 'a team executive', I do, and although still anonymous, an 'executive' is not a low level position, it is someone with authority within the organization. You can see this type of reporting throughout the sports sphere on a daily basis both on their sites, and through their Twitter's. I have also discussed eSports reporting of this same nature with friends of mine from ESPN and CBS Sports, and have found this to be of sound nature. I also stand by my sources at all times. If things go wrong, I will gladly take the heat, as it only hurts my reputation, and my outlet's reputation.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
August 23 2012 13:12 GMT
#2228
On August 23 2012 22:09 Slasher wrote:
When reporting on eSports, I look to traditional Sports media as my examples rather than non-sports journalism. Sports media traditionally, in all sports both US and Worldwide, use anonymous sources to verify trades and player signings. This includes all major media outlets a la ESPN, CBS Sports, FOX Sports, etc. When I have the opportunity to write 'a team executive', I do, and although still anonymous, an 'executive' is not a low level position, it is someone with authority within the organization. You can see this type of reporting throughout the sports sphere on a daily basis both on their sites, and through their Twitter's. I have also discussed eSports reporting of this same nature with friends of mine from ESPN and CBS Sports, and have found this to be of sound nature. I also stand by my sources at all times. If things go wrong, I will gladly take the heat, as it only hurts my reputation, and my outlet's reputation.


i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 14:00:42
August 23 2012 13:54 GMT
#2229
On August 23 2012 22:12 sertman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 22:09 Slasher wrote:
When reporting on eSports, I look to traditional Sports media as my examples rather than non-sports journalism. Sports media traditionally, in all sports both US and Worldwide, use anonymous sources to verify trades and player signings. This includes all major media outlets a la ESPN, CBS Sports, FOX Sports, etc. When I have the opportunity to write 'a team executive', I do, and although still anonymous, an 'executive' is not a low level position, it is someone with authority within the organization. You can see this type of reporting throughout the sports sphere on a daily basis both on their sites, and through their Twitter's. I have also discussed eSports reporting of this same nature with friends of mine from ESPN and CBS Sports, and have found this to be of sound nature. I also stand by my sources at all times. If things go wrong, I will gladly take the heat, as it only hurts my reputation, and my outlet's reputation.


i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it


He's one of them EG and he is probably leveraging his "this isn't certain yet" point on a somewhat uneducated audience.
This is what it sounds like at least, I haven't listened to the show yet.
Play more Quake.
Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
August 23 2012 14:09 GMT
#2230
On August 23 2012 22:12 sertman wrote:
i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it


I think the point Scoots was trying to make is that we have plenty of tabloid journalists in the world of professional gaming. He believes Slasher should hold himself to a higher standard because he is in a good position to do so. At least thats what I got from it.
McDrizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
United States131 Posts
August 23 2012 14:35 GMT
#2231
I thought scoots just wanted to know who was the credible source. Although asking for Slasher for the source while on the air is kind of unreasonable. In sports the anonymous sources happen although sometimes they say the position in sports talk shows or in articles sometimes. Saying automatically Stephano is going to join EG after saying he wont resign with his team really does put his credibility on the line.
wait what
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
August 23 2012 17:57 GMT
#2232
On August 23 2012 23:09 Rezudox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 22:12 sertman wrote:
i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it


I think the point Scoots was trying to make is that we have plenty of tabloid journalists in the world of professional gaming. He believes Slasher should hold himself to a higher standard because he is in a good position to do so. At least thats what I got from it.


anonymous sources isn't tabloid journalism. journalism as an industry is heavily dependent on people speaking anonymously. asking someone to reveal their source is asking the journalist to commit a heavy breach of trust to the source. you think if slasher gave up his sources anyone would tell him anything? nope. so what good is slasher then? what scoots was asking was unreasonable, and another case of EG being locked into their own perspective without seeing the bigger picture.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
August 23 2012 18:29 GMT
#2233
On August 24 2012 02:57 sertman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 23:09 Rezudox wrote:
On August 23 2012 22:12 sertman wrote:
i agree, this is so unbelievably standard par for the course in sports journalism that i'm surprised scoots got as salty as he did over it


I think the point Scoots was trying to make is that we have plenty of tabloid journalists in the world of professional gaming. He believes Slasher should hold himself to a higher standard because he is in a good position to do so. At least thats what I got from it.


anonymous sources isn't tabloid journalism. journalism as an industry is heavily dependent on people speaking anonymously. asking someone to reveal their source is asking the journalist to commit a heavy breach of trust to the source. you think if slasher gave up his sources anyone would tell him anything? nope. so what good is slasher then? what scoots was asking was unreasonable, and another case of EG being locked into their own perspective without seeing the bigger picture.

did we watch the same show?
Scoots just didn't like that Slasher said that Stephano is 100% going to EG (done deal), instead of Stephano is 99% going to EG, because EG nor Stephano didn't tell him. I don't think Scoots was even interested in who this source really is.
Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
August 23 2012 18:32 GMT
#2234
On August 24 2012 02:57 sertman wrote:
anonymous sources isn't tabloid journalism. journalism as an industry is heavily dependent on people speaking anonymously. asking someone to reveal their source is asking the journalist to commit a heavy breach of trust to the source. you think if slasher gave up his sources anyone would tell him anything? nope. so what good is slasher then? what scoots was asking was unreasonable, and another case of EG being locked into their own perspective without seeing the bigger picture.


While I accept the need to keep sources secret Scoot's arguement was that Slasher's source could not have "known" as they were not a directly involved party. This mysterious "team executive" source, is in fact, a competitor to EG. Is it really responsible to use a competitors hearsay?
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 23 2012 18:42 GMT
#2235
On August 23 2012 22:09 Slasher wrote:
When reporting on eSports, I look to traditional Sports media as my examples rather than non-sports journalism. Sports media traditionally, in all sports both US and Worldwide, use anonymous sources to verify trades and player signings. This includes all major media outlets a la ESPN, CBS Sports, FOX Sports, etc. When I have the opportunity to write 'a team executive', I do, and although still anonymous, an 'executive' is not a low level position, it is someone with authority within the organization. You can see this type of reporting throughout the sports sphere on a daily basis both on their sites, and through their Twitter's. I have also discussed eSports reporting of this same nature with friends of mine from ESPN and CBS Sports, and have found this to be of sound nature. I also stand by my sources at all times. If things go wrong, I will gladly take the heat, as it only hurts my reputation, and my outlet's reputation.


I wrote that in the other thread, and I'm really glad you've echoed it.

However, anonymous sources should be avoided at all costs. That traditional sports journalists do it isn't a good enough selling point to me; people like Peter King also spend thousands of words talking about coffee, football and 'that thing they read in the New York Times' in what's ostensibly a football piece. Their use basically comes down to the writer saying 'trust me'. And yeah, I trust you, but I'd trust you more if I knew who was so adamant that this was happening. That's especially true since (apparently) it wasn't anyone affiliated with the player or with EG.

I don't know. It's not like this is a particularly big deal in the long run. We're not talking about outing undercover agents or infiltrating the Mafia or anything. I just hope journalists press their sources for identification unless there's a really, really good reason not to. Not wanting to be embarrassed isn't a good enough reason to my mind.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Flippin1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark20 Posts
August 27 2012 18:28 GMT
#2236
Hey i just watched some VODs and i came to Live on Three 127 i was wondering if anybody new the first song before the real talking begins? I realised that it was Cobra Starship - You make me feel. But i can't find the remix since it is a remix of the song. Thanks.

Link: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/327933219
hihiihih
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
August 28 2012 21:07 GMT
#2237
I was also interested by the argument between Slasher and Scoots, but there is one point that surprises me.
Sirscoots said that this announcement benefits reddit and TL the most but I think it benefits EG the most. Everyone is talking about EG and Stephano and if
1) Stephano goes to EG and EG couldn't state it before september, then it's nice for them since everyone is talking about them.
2) Stephano does not go to EG. It is still nice for them since everyone talk about them about since they officially tried their best not to say anything their image is preserved.

In fact it would have been smart for EG to "leak" this information to create a big buzz around them!
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 30 2012 01:36 GMT
#2238
Why is LO3 on and no one talking about it on this topic?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#2239
Even as a starcraft fan who doesnt really follow the LoL or Dota scene i really enjoyed tonights episode. Great job. Particularily liked hearing about team mentalities from puppy.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
August 30 2012 03:16 GMT
#2240
On August 30 2012 10:36 dabom88 wrote:
Why is LO3 on and no one talking about it on this topic?


Because it's not as much about SC2 so nobody on TL cares, unfortunately.
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