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It is highly recommended that your read this entire thread - at least until page 10. If you make uninformed opinions that have been answered by the thread, col management or Destiny, you will be banned.
blotrees
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
June 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#541
I wonder were Destiny will go from here. Im sure he is really disappointed because of the close relationship he has with catz. )= Just cant imagine destiny beign on any other team its weird.
i make marine - MKP
P0ckets
Profile Joined January 2011
United States430 Posts
June 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#542
Destiny would be perfect for Reign or Vile I believe. Those teams have a few stars each but could both really use another one, and being the avid stream Destiny is, it will really boost their brands.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
June 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#543
coL. doesnt need destiny, and destiny doesnt need coL.
Punkahollic
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 02:07:30
June 23 2011 02:03 GMT
#544
Well there goes my only interest in Complexity gaming. I'm a Destiny fan first and foremost, then the team. Complexity loses a part of its fan base with this, but they'll live (they still have Catz and Drewbie, and they rock) But I liked ROOT (and Complexity i guess?...well...not really) but without Destiny...I just dont care anymore :/

Anyone else miss ROOT?...
aut0mati0n
Profile Joined May 2011
United States97 Posts
June 23 2011 02:04 GMT
#545
On June 23 2011 11:00 Marcus420 wrote:
coL. doesnt need destiny, and destiny doesnt need coL.

There's truth to this statement.

I think I was least pleased with the coL press release, which seemed one sided against Destiny, whereas a simple 'differing ideals, parting ways' statement would have been more beneficial to both parties and lessened the overall trolling and BM.
southmc
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2 Posts
June 23 2011 02:06 GMT
#546
On June 23 2011 08:03 Fluffdaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 07:46 southmc wrote:
On June 23 2011 07:13 Fluffdaddy wrote:
Am I to believe the words of a company who has run a legit gaming team for 10 years, or should I go with the guy who uses racial slurs that disparage my entire race and other terms that insult homosexuals because he thinks its philosophically admirable, or whatever other upper middle class white privilege idea he came up with.

As I said previously, this is a fitting end for both parties.



I'm also black, and you do more to disparage our race with your racially charged comments than I've ever heard this kid destiny do.. While I've never heard Destiny bring race into the equation (and yes, I've heard the language on the stream), you've just injected it in for no apparent reason. I suggest you educate yourself a bit more on context as getting offended at his does a great disservice to those of us who've had the words used against them in a much more harmful manner. And best of luck to you "Fluffdaddy"...



It is way off topic, but let me just say that the notion that it is okay to use racist or homophobic remarks because they are just words comes from a position of middle class white privilege. Its not racism to point that out, because it is true.

In a nut shell, it is easy for someone who is not affected by the words they use because they never experience that hurt themselves. His poor rationalization of using such language comes from a place of privilege, because he is neither a minority or a homosexual, and most likely has never been raped.

My post wasn't racially charged in the slightest. If you would like to understand more about white privilege, especially from the American Middle class, you may private message me. Otherwise, I am dropping it.



No need to PM you, I'll say my piece and be done with it as well.

"the notion that it is okay to use racist or homophobic remarks because they are just words comes from a position of middle class white privilege."

Entertainers such as Jay-Z, Tupac, Eminem, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy and the list goes on and on, certainly do not hail from middle class white privilege. They use the word to entertain their audience, so has destiny. If it's your opinion he can't use it because he's white, well, welcome to racial discrimination friend.

That's really all I have to say on the matter..
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
June 23 2011 02:12 GMT
#547
On June 23 2011 11:06 southmc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 08:03 Fluffdaddy wrote:
On June 23 2011 07:46 southmc wrote:
On June 23 2011 07:13 Fluffdaddy wrote:
Am I to believe the words of a company who has run a legit gaming team for 10 years, or should I go with the guy who uses racial slurs that disparage my entire race and other terms that insult homosexuals because he thinks its philosophically admirable, or whatever other upper middle class white privilege idea he came up with.

As I said previously, this is a fitting end for both parties.



I'm also black, and you do more to disparage our race with your racially charged comments than I've ever heard this kid destiny do.. While I've never heard Destiny bring race into the equation (and yes, I've heard the language on the stream), you've just injected it in for no apparent reason. I suggest you educate yourself a bit more on context as getting offended at his does a great disservice to those of us who've had the words used against them in a much more harmful manner. And best of luck to you "Fluffdaddy"...



It is way off topic, but let me just say that the notion that it is okay to use racist or homophobic remarks because they are just words comes from a position of middle class white privilege. Its not racism to point that out, because it is true.

In a nut shell, it is easy for someone who is not affected by the words they use because they never experience that hurt themselves. His poor rationalization of using such language comes from a place of privilege, because he is neither a minority or a homosexual, and most likely has never been raped.

My post wasn't racially charged in the slightest. If you would like to understand more about white privilege, especially from the American Middle class, you may private message me. Otherwise, I am dropping it.



No need to PM you, I'll say my piece and be done with it as well.

"the notion that it is okay to use racist or homophobic remarks because they are just words comes from a position of middle class white privilege."

Entertainers such as Jay-Z, Tupac, Eminem, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy and the list goes on and on, certainly do not hail from middle class white privilege. They use the word to entertain their audience, so has destiny. If it's your opinion he can't use it because he's white, well, welcome to racial discrimination friend.

That's really all I have to say on the matter..


Smach down!!!!!!!


Props to destiny for sticking to his guns. Some others might have buckled and given up on themselves to pretend to be something they arent.

WP sir.

it's quite funny how unpopular CoL has remained for like half a decade now , Hope loveable catz drewbie will help out with turning that around ^^
fontana
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil24 Posts
June 23 2011 02:17 GMT
#548
destiny get out!!
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
June 23 2011 02:21 GMT
#549
Gl to both Destiny and Complexity gaming. With Catz and crew not having to worry as much about the financial ends of the game and being able to dedicate more time to improving, I hope to see them really shine in the future.

I have been watching destiny for a while now (like november or so) and he has improved greatly since the beginning. After being picked up by Root, Destiny learned a lot from Catz and the other Root members and as such he is now a "Good player" as opposed to a "fair player that gets his audience solely on his personality". I would like to see him start practicing with, and learning from the top tier Z players (Foreigners obv) and go from a good player to a tournament threat. While most of us wouldn't stand a chance against a top GM player in any setting, We would expect a pro player (which I would constitute destiny as a pro player) to win. I would imagine that Vile or Reign or VP or VT would be happy to have destiny on their roster, I don't know what team I would actually call a good fit.

tl;dr Best of luck to both parties, hope to see great success all around.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
June 23 2011 02:21 GMT
#550
SB2 HWAITING.

There's really not much to see here. Parted ways and it's better for both sides. The OP seems a little douchy though.
Baller Fanclub || CheAse Fanclub || Scarlett Fanclub || LJD FIGHTING!
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
June 23 2011 02:22 GMT
#551
Can't say I'm surprised. He is a controversial person and he doesn't have the results to be untouchable.
I still wish him good luck wherever his way may take him.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 23 2011 02:24 GMT
#552
On June 23 2011 05:40 Coldplum wrote:
This is going to destroy complexity's shot at playing competitively

Hahahaha... no.
Destiny's stream may be fun to watch but he has never been considered a real ace within ROOT or CoL.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 23 2011 02:28 GMT
#553
I agree with the posters saying that this isn't a big surprise, but I wish the best for him and hope he continues going to LAN tournaments.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
June 23 2011 02:29 GMT
#554
new free agent on the market. quite the roster mix ups we've had the past couple weeks. do you think anyone will want to pick up destiny despite his popular out spoken personality? could it actually be hurting him instead of helping him?


why do people think that Teams give a shit about personality... IdrA is going to be my prime example here. Everyone didn't like him and people were messaging scoots too "kick idra out of eg for being a asshole." Winning is all that matters and in that reguard destiny has a little ways to goo till a serious team will pick him up (which too me looks like hes fine with that)

Best of luck to you destiny.
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Rilo
Profile Joined September 2010
10 Posts
June 23 2011 02:34 GMT
#555
Keep on fightin' Steve! You don't need a team to be a super-awesome-sick-nerd-baller. Look at White.Ra for example
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
June 23 2011 02:35 GMT
#556
Sigh, I miss ROOT. They had such a strong roster, and it's a shame to see it divvied up between coL and other areas.
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
June 23 2011 02:36 GMT
#557
I can draw similarities to the top designer from DIOR who was axed in half a day due to him making anti-Semitic and "I love Hitler" remarks to a journalist. (not that I mean they are comparable remarks, just things that are said that are controversial in nature)

Did he make DIOR a lot of money and DIOR lost a big talent? Yeah

Was what he said appropriate even outside of work? No

I make money for my employer in my job. Can I shout racist remarks inside the workplace? No. Can I say it outside? No, I can't.

Because of my career and professionalism, my actions are associated with something other than myself e.g. my company. Sooner or later, when you get into the real world and when money and sponsors and image are things you need to really consider, you realize it's not all about me, me ,me.

Welcome to the real world.
Homosax
Profile Joined May 2011
20 Posts
June 23 2011 02:36 GMT
#558
It's the snarky comments like the ones in this thread that make me not want to post here.

Good on Steve for admitting to what he did, I'm a bit puzzled by Col's second paragraph, but it's not much of a big deal. Col didn't say anything specific, they could have said worse, but didn't. What gets me are the people in this thread talking crap.

Destiny might not be a tournament winner, but he's been getting progressively better. This isn't a biased opinion, it's fact. Awhile back it was, "Destiny isn't even in GM, hasn't won any tournaments" etc, now it's "Destiny hasn't won any tournaments." He's gotten loads better, it seems he has really bad luck in tournaments, but I'm sure there will be a day he gets far and I can't wait to see the same people in this thread snarking it up some more.

I don't think Destiny needs a team, really. It'd be cool to see him take one on, though.
HyperLimen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 07:04:51
June 23 2011 02:43 GMT
#559


User was temp banned for this post.
TO THE BANK! - stephano
MattTBK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada51 Posts
June 23 2011 02:49 GMT
#560
On June 23 2011 11:43 HyperLimen wrote:
Honestly... who didn't see this coming ?

Everyone that puts Destiny on a pedestal is so blind. He constantly makes racist jokes and makes fun of black people on top of all of his other completely ignorant rants he habitually goes on.

I challenge any of his fans to take a look at him and objectively evaluate his character. He is an uneducated college dropout with an illegitimate child; moreover, he is a MUSIC MAJOR dropout. That makes him the equivalent of the demographic that he constantly berates (at the most) and uses racial epithets towards... assuming that you want to apply stereotypes like Destiny does.

The only reason that anyone would be a fan of this ignorant hate monger is because they appreciate him for voicing their own closeted bigotry.

Any team that would sign this embarrassment to the community is a disgrace. Good job on Complexity's part for putting a footprint on his ignorant hind quarters.

Maybe this will have a positive affect on him and he will start actually raising his child.

Personally, I find it hilarious that some people view him as a martyr for his own personal beliefs... no matter how misguided and unenlightened they may be. Any rational human being would discern his behavior as stubborn and immature.

He openly admits to signing a contract under false pretenses and yet, somehow, people still support him. I wish I was alive centuries ago where a person's word and signature actually meant something.


You mean the same time where you would have to say this to his face, and not hide behind the anonymity of an internet forum. I wish i was alive whenever people stop making baseless assumptions about someone's character and their beliefs off of petty details such as word choice.

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