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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 16 2011 23:25 GMT
#41
I can already see where this is going. 5 pages consisting of a smooth 60/40% blend of people saying this is an inaccurate sign of hacking and the other half congratulating the OP on a wonderful find.

Abandon all content, ye who post here.
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FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 23:28:32
June 16 2011 23:28 GMT
#42
Blizzard should just have the Starcraft process take random low-res screen shots during matches and upload them at the end of matches, have software analyze the screen shots for fog of war, and report all those that fail.
Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
June 16 2011 23:29 GMT
#43
Please explain to me how exactly getting to GM league with a maphack to get stream viewers who can then watch you fail because you cant have your maphack on while streaming makes any sense at all?
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 16 2011 23:30 GMT
#44
I've had this happen plenty of times and I'm pretty sure it's just a ui glitch and not indicative of hacking...
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
June 16 2011 23:31 GMT
#45
On June 17 2011 08:29 Iksf wrote:
Please explain to me how exactly getting to GM league with a maphack to get stream viewers who can then watch you fail because you cant have your maphack on while streaming makes any sense at all?


It doesn't. WBC and the OP are the only 2 who are convinced butteryllama is a map hacker. Nothing to see here; move along.
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 16 2011 23:33 GMT
#46
On June 17 2011 08:16 Butteryllama wrote:
I'm glad I read this thread early on so I could make a statement to put an end to this absurd shit-storm.

Though it might (or might not, I actually don't know) be true that if someone is using a particular map hack there is a something that pops up at the beginning of a replay, it is certainly not the case that this for sure means there is a map hack. I've never used a map hack in my life, yet ONEWBC was accusing me so, based on some info that he apparently thinks is conclusive. However, I wasn't hacking, so I know with 100% certainty that this 'method' is far from full proof. I would appreciate if people would wait to find out if something is actually real and provides substantiating evidence before tossing around serious slanders. For people reading this DO NOT believe that I or anybody else was hacking BASED ON THIS EVIDENCE ALONE.
If the community wants my archive of auto-saved replays to check, I would provide them. In fact, I find it particularly amusing that I of all people am accused of this, as nearly 100% of my mistakes are game-knowledge and scouting mistakes as opposed to execution mistakes (I'll just arrogantly come out and say I have amazing mechanics, far better than ONEWBC will ever have; it's all the other aspects of my play that get me in trouble).

Seriously though, please have some actual evidence before making such a tall claim.
~Buttery



There we go. Innocent until proven guilty. Buttery seems like a standup guy who does stuff for the community and I have absolutely no clue who this ONEWBC dude is other than him spamming forums with this method. This thread really should be closed with a mod edit that the OP is full of shit.
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MapleFractal
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada307 Posts
June 16 2011 23:34 GMT
#47
Absolute rubbish, provide the community with something concrete or crawl back under your bridge. Pure speculation and hate because you lost to someone better then you.
its called a Tuque damnit!
inzaneone
Profile Joined December 2010
United States18 Posts
June 16 2011 23:35 GMT
#48
I was watching Buttery stream when WBC called him a map hacker they had just played a game on the ladder. Buttery had some good scouting information on him and had a very favorable battle. then after that game they meet up again on the ladder WBC told buttery that Buttery was a map hacker for his friend told him that he was one. Buttery ended up losing that second game he made some bad decisions and didn't win. I don't have the replays of the games since i was watching it on stream so if they do get posted both games we can end this slander once and for all.
Haegr9599
Profile Joined April 2011
United States210 Posts
June 16 2011 23:35 GMT
#49
Lol, well this managed to go to a shit storm in less than like 10 minutes =O

Well anyways, general consesnsus is, besides WBC and OP, that this really is not a valid way to detect maphackers and that butteryllama is NOT a hap hacker... everybody can move along now lol
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
June 16 2011 23:37 GMT
#50
This happends to me whenever I load a replay basically. I must be playing 100% hackers then.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
June 16 2011 23:53 GMT
#51
I didnt even understand the OP and how the hack is supposed to work. Ive never seen that picture in picture on any replay.

For the avarage player it wont matter much if you come across a maphacker once in a while. If you get matched vs him then hes around your skill when hes hacking so it will probably be a good game anyway. I guess if you base your play on sneaky cheesy stuff it can be annoying tho :p
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
June 17 2011 00:13 GMT
#52
Unless someone can provide conclusive proof that is method of detection is 100% reliable then it is completely out of order to be using it to accuse anyone of hacking.
hoor3x
Profile Joined September 2010
United States100 Posts
June 17 2011 00:17 GMT
#53
Get off llama's dick. He doesn't cheat he's almost always streaming. Get some more proof before you post bullshit about people you don't know that could potentially screw them over or better yet learn how to take a loss without blaming someone else for it.
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
June 17 2011 00:23 GMT
#54
On June 17 2011 08:28 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:
Blizzard should just have the Starcraft process take random low-res screen shots during matches and upload them at the end of matches, have software analyze the screen shots for fog of war, and report all those that fail.

Ugly hacker kids would find a workaround no matter what. :-d

I guess the only thing to do is to not take ladder too seriously. Use ladder as a practice ground, some times you lose, some times you lose to hacker -- doesn't matter ^^
Playgu
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
June 17 2011 00:25 GMT
#55
dude, I've been playing with butterry wayyy before there were masters/GM. He's always been nice enough to give me practice games even though there's the level difference.

He's not hacking dude. You should see what he does for the community he's in. He's been offering free coaching for his clan eP for the longest time, and only recently started charging s few bucks for it. As well as streaming with commentary, and answering viewer questions.

Nice guy all-round.
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
June 17 2011 00:28 GMT
#56
A replay flashing because of a person using a third party software using client-side information?

Pretty sure whoever came up with the concept is wrong.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ECA.BruTATroN
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States282 Posts
June 17 2011 00:29 GMT
#57
Well before anything else gets said about this, i have been ButteryLlama's manager for about a year now and i know more information then anyone else on regards of this. If you do not know ButteryLlama then you have no say in this. Before i defend ButteryLlama i would like to state some facts.
1) ButteryLlama is a standout guy and is one of the most realistic minded individuals i have ever come across.
2) Not only does he stream live he also talks about mechanics and how scouting is very important.
3) He taught a E-Sports class at Depauw University and voluntered his own time to students in teaching/learning starcraft 2.
4) He offers free coaching to clan mates on the weekend because he loves our community.
5) He won the Lafayette Symphony's Keller Award when he was a junior at Depauw University.
you can find the article here: http://www.depauw.edu/acad/articles/?ID=20555
6) He is a Blackbelt in Hapkido
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7) He and his band just recently recorded a album that will be released shortly
8) He just attended MLG columbus where he made it pretty far into the loser brackets.
9) He works hard and is a freak when it comes to training.
10) Watch his stream, and you will no longer have any doubts. www.justin.tv/butteryllama

Now with all that being said that really means nothing about hacking. But considering he earned everything he accomplished in his life and that his personality is just fantastic. I find this thread to be a joke but at the same time a good thing, because ButteryLlama is one of the best people i have met in my life and everyone should know about him, not because of this thread but because hes the reason that we all play this game, hes a dreamer, but yet realistic, and he is just a joy to be around. Clan eP will always support ButteryLlama no matter what is true or not.
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baeracaed
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States604 Posts
June 17 2011 00:32 GMT
#58
On June 17 2011 08:37 meRz wrote:
This happends to me whenever I load a replay basically. I must be playing 100% hackers then.


Same here.
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ArtemisKnives
Profile Joined March 2010
United States210 Posts
June 17 2011 00:32 GMT
#59
omg. I've seen replays do this all the time and I was SOOOO suspicious that they'd been cheating when they played me. Wow
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baeracaed
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States604 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 00:34:51
June 17 2011 00:34 GMT
#60
On June 17 2011 09:32 Frozne wrote:
omg. I've seen replays do this all the time and I was SOOOO suspicious that they'd been cheating when they played me. Wow


You're reading the posts in the thread saying some people get this pretty much every time they open a replay right?
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