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SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
May 24 2011 17:14 GMT
#61
On May 25 2011 02:12 Kevan wrote:
TLO, Thorzain and Sjow are awesome, the others are good too except for Lalush, he is such a badkid


Hes bad but hes good

Anyways id rather see DDE than Sheth or Fenix, i think that atm hes twice as good as those 2.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 24 2011 17:16 GMT
#62
On May 25 2011 01:40 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 01:32 grobo wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:27 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:19 SuperStyle wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:10 Aristodemus wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:05 LesPhoques wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:00 LuckstYle wrote:
ThorZaiN overrated


What makes you say that sir?

To be fair to him, he has only really excelled in the TSL.


Tell me, where did Idra excel at? Hes widely considered the best foreign player yet i fail to see results to confirm it.
edit: I do think Thorzain is awesome, but hes not better than MC or Nani.


1st MLG DC
1st IPL
2nd IEM Cologne
GSL January Ro8
3rd Dreamhack Invitational
GSL Open 2 Ro16
7th MLG Dallas.

He's just had so much more consistancy than Thorzain throughout where as Thorzain basically won and played brilliantly in TSL having done little before and so far not much after it.


TSL just ended like a week ago, what else do you want him to achieve during such a short time?


Since his TSL success he played in the Road to Korea where he lost to Mover (2-0), Lalush (2-1) and Sase (2-0) meaning he didn't make it out of the group stage. He also played in WCG Sweden and didn't qualify as he was too sick to play. He also lost 2-0 to Sase again in the EG Masters Cup this week.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, he's clearly a good player but he's not the best foreigner, he's not even the best in Europe or the best in Sweden.

i'm sure he lost in the road to korea because he was preparing for TSL.
as you said he didnt play wcg sweden because he was sick
He lost to Sase who is like top3 player in Sweden, no big deal really.

i laugh at everyone who says he's overrated because he can't win a 1day tournament. So, can YOU beat MC if you had 2 weeks to prepare? No. a month? no. a year? probably not

thorzain is fucking sick player that excels strategy-wise but also has great mechanics. shut up haters.
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
May 24 2011 17:23 GMT
#63
On May 25 2011 01:13 LuckstYle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 01:10 Aristodemus wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:05 LesPhoques wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:00 LuckstYle wrote:
ThorZaiN overrated


What makes you say that sir?

To be fair to him, he has only really excelled in the TSL.


This, I heard from him BEFORE TSL, but he didnt have any good results that I recognized.
Furthermore, he take a HUGE advantage from long prep with builds etc, not THAT good in a cup system.

Just my opinion


Other players have just as much right to take that "huge" advantage and prep builds, it's how tournaments works, if people don't do it then that's their fault and ThorZain was simply smarter.
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#64
On May 25 2011 02:16 PredY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 01:40 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:32 grobo wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:27 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:19 SuperStyle wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:10 Aristodemus wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:05 LesPhoques wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:00 LuckstYle wrote:
ThorZaiN overrated


What makes you say that sir?

To be fair to him, he has only really excelled in the TSL.


Tell me, where did Idra excel at? Hes widely considered the best foreign player yet i fail to see results to confirm it.
edit: I do think Thorzain is awesome, but hes not better than MC or Nani.


1st MLG DC
1st IPL
2nd IEM Cologne
GSL January Ro8
3rd Dreamhack Invitational
GSL Open 2 Ro16
7th MLG Dallas.

He's just had so much more consistancy than Thorzain throughout where as Thorzain basically won and played brilliantly in TSL having done little before and so far not much after it.


TSL just ended like a week ago, what else do you want him to achieve during such a short time?


Since his TSL success he played in the Road to Korea where he lost to Mover (2-0), Lalush (2-1) and Sase (2-0) meaning he didn't make it out of the group stage. He also played in WCG Sweden and didn't qualify as he was too sick to play. He also lost 2-0 to Sase again in the EG Masters Cup this week.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, he's clearly a good player but he's not the best foreigner, he's not even the best in Europe or the best in Sweden.

i'm sure he lost in the road to korea because he was preparing for TSL.
as you said he didnt play wcg sweden because he was sick
He lost to Sase who is like top3 player in Sweden, no big deal really.

i laugh at everyone who says he's overrated because he can't win a 1day tournament. So, can YOU beat MC if you had 2 weeks to prepare? No. a month? no. a year? probably not

thorzain is fucking sick player that excels strategy-wise but also has great mechanics. shut up haters.


Thorzain's a good player, I'm not suggesting he's not. But he's not as good as MC and still has a lot to prove.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
May 24 2011 17:32 GMT
#65
On May 25 2011 02:27 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 02:16 PredY wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:40 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:32 grobo wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:27 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:19 SuperStyle wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:10 Aristodemus wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:05 LesPhoques wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:00 LuckstYle wrote:
ThorZaiN overrated


What makes you say that sir?

To be fair to him, he has only really excelled in the TSL.


Tell me, where did Idra excel at? Hes widely considered the best foreign player yet i fail to see results to confirm it.
edit: I do think Thorzain is awesome, but hes not better than MC or Nani.


1st MLG DC
1st IPL
2nd IEM Cologne
GSL January Ro8
3rd Dreamhack Invitational
GSL Open 2 Ro16
7th MLG Dallas.

He's just had so much more consistancy than Thorzain throughout where as Thorzain basically won and played brilliantly in TSL having done little before and so far not much after it.


TSL just ended like a week ago, what else do you want him to achieve during such a short time?


Since his TSL success he played in the Road to Korea where he lost to Mover (2-0), Lalush (2-1) and Sase (2-0) meaning he didn't make it out of the group stage. He also played in WCG Sweden and didn't qualify as he was too sick to play. He also lost 2-0 to Sase again in the EG Masters Cup this week.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, he's clearly a good player but he's not the best foreigner, he's not even the best in Europe or the best in Sweden.

i'm sure he lost in the road to korea because he was preparing for TSL.
as you said he didnt play wcg sweden because he was sick
He lost to Sase who is like top3 player in Sweden, no big deal really.

i laugh at everyone who says he's overrated because he can't win a 1day tournament. So, can YOU beat MC if you had 2 weeks to prepare? No. a month? no. a year? probably not

thorzain is fucking sick player that excels strategy-wise but also has great mechanics. shut up haters.


Thorzain's a good player, I'm not suggesting he's not. But he's not as good as MC and still has a lot to prove.

well of course. there's not many as good as mc
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
May 24 2011 17:36 GMT
#66
If Dreamhack wants to maximize viewers they shoudl really invite more from the US. I'm sure the last spots are for Americans though.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 24 2011 17:37 GMT
#67
There are so many good players! I'm glad to see Brat_OK will be able to make it (at least I hope so.. D and I hope he does well... but there are so many good players there who I hope do well, so..... :-/
ambriglia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
May 24 2011 17:38 GMT
#68
Nestea? Why hasn't he been invited yet? 2 time GSL Code S Champion says alot...
pwn n00bs
crabz
Profile Joined May 2011
227 Posts
May 24 2011 17:51 GMT
#69
On May 25 2011 01:47 razy wrote:
Dear God please make so Bratok has no more visa issue's this time.

Amen.

+1
bratok is insanely good wish he could play more big lans ~~
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
May 24 2011 18:22 GMT
#70
On May 25 2011 02:36 Coolwhip wrote:
If Dreamhack wants to maximize viewers they shoudl really invite more from the US. I'm sure the last spots are for Americans though.

Its a shame to not invite more talented players though dont you think? Thats my opinion. I would say Idra, Kiwi and Huk only. Select i class as korean.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
May 24 2011 18:29 GMT
#71
On May 25 2011 01:29 Gurgl wrote:
Show nested quote +
Tell me, where did Idra excel at? Hes widely considered the best foreign player yet i fail to see results to confirm it.
edit: I do think Thorzain is awesome, but hes not better than MC or Nani.


I agree with everything except that Idra is widely considered the best foreigner, because as you say he has done nothing to prove that.

If play 4 consecutive GSL season, be a code S player, win one MLG and win the IGN proleague is nothing for you.....
Gurgl
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden308 Posts
May 24 2011 19:05 GMT
#72
On May 25 2011 03:29 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 01:29 Gurgl wrote:
Tell me, where did Idra excel at? Hes widely considered the best foreign player yet i fail to see results to confirm it.
edit: I do think Thorzain is awesome, but hes not better than MC or Nani.


I agree with everything except that Idra is widely considered the best foreigner, because as you say he has done nothing to prove that.

If play 4 consecutive GSL season, be a code S player, win one MLG and win the IGN proleague is nothing for you.....


That doesn´t prove that he is the best foreigner. Jinro has done better than Idra in GSL and won an MLG, Naniwa dominated the last MLG and got second in TSL. I dont think anyone has done enough to be considered the best foreigner, Idra is among the best but he has to do alot more to be widely considered the best foreigner.

If any player goes and wins both MLG and Dreamhack then they would probably be widely considered the best but it really takes something extreme like that to be crowned the best.
Ser3nitynow
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden89 Posts
May 24 2011 19:08 GMT
#73
I hope they get Select as Na invite
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 24 2011 19:12 GMT
#74
On May 25 2011 02:27 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 02:16 PredY wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:40 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:32 grobo wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:27 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:19 SuperStyle wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:10 Aristodemus wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:05 LesPhoques wrote:
On May 25 2011 01:00 LuckstYle wrote:
ThorZaiN overrated


What makes you say that sir?

To be fair to him, he has only really excelled in the TSL.


Tell me, where did Idra excel at? Hes widely considered the best foreign player yet i fail to see results to confirm it.
edit: I do think Thorzain is awesome, but hes not better than MC or Nani.


1st MLG DC
1st IPL
2nd IEM Cologne
GSL January Ro8
3rd Dreamhack Invitational
GSL Open 2 Ro16
7th MLG Dallas.

He's just had so much more consistancy than Thorzain throughout where as Thorzain basically won and played brilliantly in TSL having done little before and so far not much after it.


TSL just ended like a week ago, what else do you want him to achieve during such a short time?


Since his TSL success he played in the Road to Korea where he lost to Mover (2-0), Lalush (2-1) and Sase (2-0) meaning he didn't make it out of the group stage. He also played in WCG Sweden and didn't qualify as he was too sick to play. He also lost 2-0 to Sase again in the EG Masters Cup this week.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, he's clearly a good player but he's not the best foreigner, he's not even the best in Europe or the best in Sweden.

i'm sure he lost in the road to korea because he was preparing for TSL.
as you said he didnt play wcg sweden because he was sick
He lost to Sase who is like top3 player in Sweden, no big deal really.

i laugh at everyone who says he's overrated because he can't win a 1day tournament. So, can YOU beat MC if you had 2 weeks to prepare? No. a month? no. a year? probably not

thorzain is fucking sick player that excels strategy-wise but also has great mechanics. shut up haters.


Thorzain's a good player, I'm not suggesting he's not. But he's not as good as MC and still has a lot to prove.


Wow you are controversial...
Banelings are too cute to blow up
trancey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany729 Posts
May 24 2011 20:13 GMT
#75
well done Dreamhack!
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 24 2011 20:13 GMT
#76
Thorzain vs mc PLEASE.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
May 24 2011 20:15 GMT
#77
On May 25 2011 02:51 crabz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 01:47 razy wrote:
Dear God please make so Bratok has no more visa issue's this time.

Amen.

+1
bratok is insanely good wish he could play more big lans ~~


Me too! BRAT_OK will have as good of a shot as anyone to win this LAN assuming he can obtain a visa. Otherwise, MC & White-Ra are the favorites. I can't wait until the player list is fully announced and finalized, because this should be one of the most exciting tourneys of the year.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 24 2011 20:15 GMT
#78
This thread just made my head want to explode. Good invites good tournament. Can't Wait!
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Hufy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada55 Posts
May 24 2011 20:22 GMT
#79
bratok fighting
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 24 2011 20:28 GMT
#80
On May 25 2011 02:36 Coolwhip wrote:
If Dreamhack wants to maximize viewers they shoudl really invite more from the US. I'm sure the last spots are for Americans though.

Who would you invite though?

The NA players I think should be invited: Idra, Select, Kiwikaki, Huk (if he isnt busy with GSL).

I don't think there are other NA players who would be a strong contender here.
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