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rebusrabis
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark4 Posts
May 25 2011 12:18 GMT
#541
sometimes i wonder what blizzard spends all their funds on. cus' it sure as hell isn't being spend on competent programmers to fix sc2!
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
May 25 2011 12:30 GMT
#542
On May 25 2011 21:18 rebusrabis wrote:
sometimes i wonder what blizzard spends all their funds on. cus' it sure as hell isn't being spend on competent programmers to fix sc2!

It is not so much the time it takes them to fix these sorts of things but the lack of communication they are often guilty of when it comes to notifying their paying public.

I don't care if something takes a long time to fix as long as they keep us informed regularly. It is a shame this doesn't occur as well as it could.
Keeyla
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom4 Posts
May 25 2011 14:11 GMT
#543
On May 25 2011 21:11 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 20:43 Silverion wrote:
Seems TLO has been demoted a few minutes ago in his streaming to Master league, so maybe even with all the bugs the promotion/demotion system is already working.

You can't get demoted from GM while playing. The only reason for being demoted from GM is not playing. (Or a new season starts.) So even if you lose 100 games, you won't get demoted.


Really? I thought if your unused bonus pool reaches 180 you can get demoted. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2452060

So if you don't win enough games to use your bonus pool can you actually get demoted out of GM?
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
May 25 2011 14:12 GMT
#544
On May 25 2011 23:11 Keeyla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 21:11 blackone wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:43 Silverion wrote:
Seems TLO has been demoted a few minutes ago in his streaming to Master league, so maybe even with all the bugs the promotion/demotion system is already working.

You can't get demoted from GM while playing. The only reason for being demoted from GM is not playing. (Or a new season starts.) So even if you lose 100 games, you won't get demoted.


Really? I thought if your unused bonus pool reaches 180 you can get demoted. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2452060

So if you don't win enough games to use your bonus pool can you actually get demoted out of GM?

Correct.
xyious
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany38 Posts
May 25 2011 14:30 GMT
#545
good programmers are quite hard to find, but i do think that blizzard has quite a few of them. bugs are usually very hard to track down, especially bugs like these (try finding a typo in a chunk of code that's about as long as war and peace, for example). and then there's the whole problem of fixing bugs without introducing new ones. the programming thing is a whole is quite complicated.
either way, patience is a virtue, it will be fixed eventually.
http://xyious.com
pig-dude
Profile Joined March 2011
United States170 Posts
May 25 2011 15:20 GMT
#546
On May 25 2011 23:30 xyious wrote:
good programmers are quite hard to find, but i do think that blizzard has quite a few of them. bugs are usually very hard to track down, especially bugs like these (try finding a typo in a chunk of code that's about as long as war and peace, for example). and then there's the whole problem of fixing bugs without introducing new ones. the programming thing is a whole is quite complicated.
either way, patience is a virtue, it will be fixed eventually.

You don't need to read all of the code, just the diffs, and with decent version control, committing process, and tests, it's not so hard to figure out when a bug was introduced.
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
May 25 2011 15:25 GMT
#547
On May 25 2011 23:11 Keeyla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 21:11 blackone wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:43 Silverion wrote:
Seems TLO has been demoted a few minutes ago in his streaming to Master league, so maybe even with all the bugs the promotion/demotion system is already working.

You can't get demoted from GM while playing. The only reason for being demoted from GM is not playing. (Or a new season starts.) So even if you lose 100 games, you won't get demoted.


Really? I thought if your unused bonus pool reaches 180 you can get demoted. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2452060

So if you don't win enough games to use your bonus pool can you actually get demoted out of GM?



It's not that hard to spend your bonus pool in GM, even if you lose a ton of games, you'll mostly meet Average/High master instead of High Master/GM opponents because of your MMR.

You can have a MMR of an average Gold Player and being in GM (if you had a top 200 MMR when Season 2 came out).
EU Zerg player - Streaming @ http://twitch.tv/shade_cst
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 15:43:45
May 25 2011 15:43 GMT
#548
On May 26 2011 00:25 ShadeOfDraG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 23:11 Keeyla wrote:
On May 25 2011 21:11 blackone wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:43 Silverion wrote:
Seems TLO has been demoted a few minutes ago in his streaming to Master league, so maybe even with all the bugs the promotion/demotion system is already working.

You can't get demoted from GM while playing. The only reason for being demoted from GM is not playing. (Or a new season starts.) So even if you lose 100 games, you won't get demoted.


Really? I thought if your unused bonus pool reaches 180 you can get demoted. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2452060

So if you don't win enough games to use your bonus pool can you actually get demoted out of GM?



It's not that hard to spend your bonus pool in GM, even if you lose a ton of games, you'll mostly meet Average/High master instead of High Master/GM opponents because of your MMR.

You can have a MMR of an average Gold Player and being in GM (if you had a top 200 MMR when Season 2 came out).


You're right, but all of that's moot for the next season, because at the start of every season GM membership is recalculated.

Basically, once you're in GM, you can rest on your laurels... until the next season.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12888 Posts
May 25 2011 16:16 GMT
#549
I got promoted a game ago. beat one plat and won about 65% of other games against gold.
I had around 80% win rate against gold players for the last few days and start playing against high gold and low plat.

I was silver btw. So it's a bit weird that I had to beat some plat in order to reach gold
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Sek-Kuar
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic593 Posts
May 25 2011 16:19 GMT
#550
So, anyone got promoted since 1.3.4?
Scientists finally discovered what's wrong with the female brain: On the left side, there is nothing right, and on the right side, there's nothing left. [http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/213948/1/DJVibrejtr/]
Ghatak
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium13 Posts
May 25 2011 16:19 GMT
#551
Was this on eu or us server?
sicajung
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom297 Posts
May 25 2011 16:20 GMT
#552
On May 26 2011 01:16 ETisME wrote:
I got promoted a game ago. beat one plat and won about 65% of other games against gold.
I had around 80% win rate against gold players for the last few days and start playing against high gold and low plat.

I was silver btw. So it's a bit weird that I had to beat some plat in order to reach gold


Did u get promoted after the patch?? So the ladder locked has been lift up?
Taurent
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada401 Posts
May 25 2011 16:21 GMT
#553
Just got my GM promotion so it looks like its fixed
Maffe
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden133 Posts
May 25 2011 16:21 GMT
#554
On May 26 2011 01:16 ETisME wrote:
I got promoted a game ago. beat one plat and won about 65% of other games against gold.
I had around 80% win rate against gold players for the last few days and start playing against high gold and low plat.

I was silver btw. So it's a bit weird that I had to beat some plat in order to reach gold


What server?

o.O
im this and what is 12
xyious
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany38 Posts
May 25 2011 16:51 GMT
#555
On May 26 2011 00:20 Shahrazad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 23:30 xyious wrote:
good programmers are quite hard to find, but i do think that blizzard has quite a few of them. bugs are usually very hard to track down, especially bugs like these (try finding a typo in a chunk of code that's about as long as war and peace, for example). and then there's the whole problem of fixing bugs without introducing new ones. the programming thing is a whole is quite complicated.
either way, patience is a virtue, it will be fixed eventually.

You don't need to read all of the code, just the diffs, and with decent version control, committing process, and tests, it's not so hard to figure out when a bug was introduced.


while it's easy to see where the bug first became apparent, it's not certain that that's where the bug occurred. it's possible that the bug is quite old and just led to some weird behavior after new code utilized a function.
but i mostly agree with you.
http://xyious.com
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
May 25 2011 16:52 GMT
#556
On May 26 2011 01:21 Taurent wrote:
Just got my GM promotion so it looks like its fixed

Haha really? Nice one congrats Just installed the new patch and people have already told me that its working for them (EU)
Serenity
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 25 2011 16:56 GMT
#557
On May 26 2011 00:43 StRyKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 00:25 ShadeOfDraG wrote:
On May 25 2011 23:11 Keeyla wrote:
On May 25 2011 21:11 blackone wrote:
On May 25 2011 20:43 Silverion wrote:
Seems TLO has been demoted a few minutes ago in his streaming to Master league, so maybe even with all the bugs the promotion/demotion system is already working.

You can't get demoted from GM while playing. The only reason for being demoted from GM is not playing. (Or a new season starts.) So even if you lose 100 games, you won't get demoted.


Really? I thought if your unused bonus pool reaches 180 you can get demoted. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2452060

So if you don't win enough games to use your bonus pool can you actually get demoted out of GM?



It's not that hard to spend your bonus pool in GM, even if you lose a ton of games, you'll mostly meet Average/High master instead of High Master/GM opponents because of your MMR.

You can have a MMR of an average Gold Player and being in GM (if you had a top 200 MMR when Season 2 came out).


You're right, but all of that's moot for the next season, because at the start of every season GM membership is recalculated.

Basically, once you're in GM, you can rest on your laurels... until the next season.

So long as you're constantly playing more games and not, say, taking a break.
salsaPOUND
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia24 Posts
May 25 2011 16:56 GMT
#558
Yep. The nightmare is over. Just got a promotion on SEA.
SlySly
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany62 Posts
May 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#559
Did anyone in EU get promoted? I can't take this no longer... beating high masters on gold
random user
Profile Joined December 2010
85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 17:02:01
May 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#560
There are 187 GMs in NA now, up for 183. So at least some people are being promoted now.

Edit: in NA at least. SEA also went from 180 to 181 so I believe it's working there too.
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