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totally_spy
Profile Joined April 2010
France104 Posts
December 29 2011 18:03 GMT
#741
If I consider the caliber of the top5 players by country and speculate on how well they would do in CodeS/CodeA/CodeB I get this tier list :

Code S
01. Korea - for obvious reasons, + Flash, Jaedong and Bisu may switch to SC2 on day. Scary!

-----------------

Code A
02. Sweden (NaNiwa, SaSe, ThorZaIN, SjoW, MorroW)
03. Ukraine (White-Ra, Kas, Strelok, Dimaga, Bly)
04. China (LoveCD, MacSed, Loner, XiGua, F91)

-----------------
Code B
05. Poland (MaNa, SLiDeR, Tarson, DieStar, Nerchio)
05. Canada (HuK, TT1, KiWiKaKi, Drewbie, SLush)
05. Russia (TitaN, Pomi, Brat_OK, Happy, LiveZerg)

08. USA (Gatored, qxc, TriMaster, IdrA, Sheth)
08. France (ToD, Adelscott, SarenS, Stephano, MoMaN)
08. Germany (HasuObs, Socke, GoOdy, TLO, DarKFoRcE)

11. Finland (elfi, Welmu, Naama, Satiini,??????)

Taiwan, Australia, Netherlands somewhere in code B too.

-----------------

The way I see this list is that countries in a Tier can compete against a country within their Tier.
China may be way higher in the list, not sure at all of their ranking.

My 2 cents on the topic
utrabo
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil17 Posts
December 29 2011 18:05 GMT
#742
On December 30 2011 02:40 QNdie wrote:
I think Sweden wins hands down. I also disagree that Germany is up there. I mean, they are good and all, but have no real star lineup; no one who actually wins a lot of huge shit. I'm extremely biased but I still think that Poland is quite good at SC2!


You are right QNdie, statistically Poland is ahead of Germany. Poland is at 7th while Germany is at 10th. Take a look at the ranking I posted above.
iRon aka bananajuice
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany124 Posts
December 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#743
sweden ukraine germany are the top three in my opinion

poland has also very good players
MKP|MMA|NesTea|Leenock|MC|Stephano|Naama|DongRaeGu|Socke
Slaytilost
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands968 Posts
December 29 2011 18:21 GMT
#744
On December 30 2011 03:03 totally_spy wrote:
If I consider the caliber of the top5 players by country and speculate on how well they would do in CodeS/CodeA/CodeB I get this tier list :

Code S
01. Korea - for obvious reasons, + Flash, Jaedong and Bisu may switch to SC2 on day. Scary!

-----------------

Code A
02. Sweden (NaNiwa, SaSe, ThorZaIN, SjoW, MorroW)
03. Ukraine (White-Ra, Kas, Strelok, Dimaga, Bly)
04. China (LoveCD, MacSed, Loner, XiGua, F91)

-----------------
Code B
05. Poland (MaNa, SLiDeR, Tarson, DieStar, Nerchio)
05. Canada (HuK, TT1, KiWiKaKi, Drewbie, SLush)
05. Russia (TitaN, Pomi, Brat_OK, Happy, LiveZerg)

08. USA (Gatored, qxc, TriMaster, IdrA, Sheth)
08. France (ToD, Adelscott, SarenS, Stephano, MoMaN)
08. Germany (HasuObs, Socke, GoOdy, TLO, DarKFoRcE)

11. Finland (elfi, Welmu, Naama, Satiini,??????)

Taiwan, Australia, Netherlands somewhere in code B too.

-----------------

The way I see this list is that countries in a Tier can compete against a country within their Tier.
China may be way higher in the list, not sure at all of their ranking.

My 2 cents on the topic

Netherlands does have Ret and Grubby, who are a force to be recogned with. Too bad they are alone
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
December 29 2011 18:34 GMT
#745
On May 09 2011 04:14 act.hero wrote:
I also consider SeleCT American, because he lives here, and is the only Korean in the world that can speak fluent english.


fluent is something else in my book
MarcoBrei
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil66 Posts
December 29 2011 18:41 GMT
#746
On December 30 2011 01:57 utrabo wrote:
The five first (source: www.sc2proranks.com )

1. South Korea
2. Sweden
3. Canada
4. USA
5. France

The information is on the "Other Stats" tab on the bottom of the page on the country rank.


I wish some day a Brazilian player appears among the top players. I mean, in any list of top players, top 100, top 1000... For now we are pretty much out of the map.
: P

Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
December 29 2011 18:41 GMT
#747
On May 09 2011 04:02 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nobody thinks France is quite up there ?

Adelscott, Stephano, Moman, Song, Sarens would make quite an ace team...

EDIT : I think Sweden is first, but that France is underrated. We could add Carn, Soju, and Aures.

I agree, I am kind of surprised a few people said US before France. Maybe some people actually believe the joke that stephano is from the US =)
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
December 29 2011 18:47 GMT
#748
Sweden is so clearly the best 'foreigner' country.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
December 29 2011 19:00 GMT
#749
On December 30 2011 03:47 Willzzz wrote:
Sweden is so clearly the best 'foreigner' country.


Preach. I don't think it is close actually. A gap to Ukraine and then a big one to the rest. That is assuming Strelok has been stepping up lately.
One Love
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 19:05:10
December 29 2011 19:04 GMT
#750
On December 30 2011 04:00 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 03:47 Willzzz wrote:
Sweden is so clearly the best 'foreigner' country.


Preach. I don't think it is close actually. A gap to Ukraine and then a big one to the rest. That is assuming Strelok has been stepping up lately.

Agreed, although it's hard to say just exactly how good China is, given how little the outside world seemingly knows about their top players, so they might have a place among the top countries as well.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
December 29 2011 19:07 GMT
#751
On December 30 2011 03:34 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 04:14 act.hero wrote:
I also consider SeleCT American, because he lives here, and is the only Korean in the world that can speak fluent english.


fluent is something else in my book

+ with that logic huk would be considered a korean
Motoorhead
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland67 Posts
December 29 2011 19:18 GMT
#752
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/807/gmpol.png/

I dont know why ppl consider pol so low.
If you never stop - failure is not an option.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 29 2011 19:21 GMT
#753
Haypro is Swedish? :o
DexLy
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden34 Posts
December 29 2011 19:29 GMT
#754
On December 30 2011 04:18 Motoorhead wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/807/gmpol.png/

I dont know why ppl consider pol so low.


It's 'determined' around how good the actual players are and the tournament results, including a few other things.
Looking at a newly opened GM is not the way to do it, especially when all the top players arn't on the same server.
Bratalix
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden34 Posts
December 29 2011 19:38 GMT
#755
On December 30 2011 04:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
Haypro is Swedish? :o


Yes, Haypro is Swedish
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 19:44:15
December 29 2011 19:38 GMT
#756
Sweden most likely, after them Ukraine probably. While the US has a TON of players, Idra is the only one who really stands out .

On December 30 2011 04:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
Haypro is Swedish? :o

Yeah. Something I've noticed is some people on TL like putting their nationality as somewhere they don't actually live for their own reasons lol, typically where they were born or something similar.
Rexking
Profile Joined October 2011
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 19:44:43
December 29 2011 19:42 GMT
#757
I'm going to pick just 2, so it doesn't get out of control.

Sweden and Canada.

I think you guys are getting out of topic. *Non-Korean Nation.
"A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." Bruce Lee.
Ventor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States336 Posts
December 29 2011 19:46 GMT
#758
On December 30 2011 03:03 totally_spy wrote:
If I consider the caliber of the top5 players by country and speculate on how well they would do in CodeS/CodeA/CodeB I get this tier list :

Code S
01. Korea - for obvious reasons, + Flash, Jaedong and Bisu may switch to SC2 on day. Scary!

-----------------

Code A
02. Sweden (NaNiwa, SaSe, ThorZaIN, SjoW, MorroW)
03. Ukraine (White-Ra, Kas, Strelok, Dimaga, Bly)http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft2
04. China (LoveCD, MacSed, Loner, XiGua, F91)

-----------------
Code B
05. Poland (MaNa, SLiDeR, Tarson, DieStar, Nerchio)
05. Canada (HuK, TT1, KiWiKaKi, Drewbie, SLush)
05. Russia (TitaN, Pomi, Brat_OK, Happy, LiveZerg)

08. USA (Gatored, qxc, TriMaster, IdrA, Sheth)
08. France (ToD, Adelscott, SarenS, Stephano, MoMaN)
08. Germany (HasuObs, Socke, GoOdy, TLO, DarKFoRcE)

11. Finland (elfi, Welmu, Naama, Satiini,??????)

Taiwan, Australia, Netherlands somewhere in code B too.

-----------------

The way I see this list is that countries in a Tier can compete against a country within their Tier.
China may be way higher in the list, not sure at all of their ranking.

My 2 cents on the topic


I'm sorry, but you can't group players like that and say they have similar skill. I hate seeing talk about this topic among the community, everyone is so damn bias toward their own continent. Idra, Huk, Thorzain and Naniwa are our top tier foreigners which have put up results. Everyone else is just spectulation; unless they win something, stop talking about "how damn good they are".
oGsMc - EGHuK - White-Ra - SlayerSBoxeR - STBomber Fighting!~
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
December 29 2011 19:51 GMT
#759
On December 30 2011 03:03 totally_spy wrote:
If I consider the caliber of the top5 players by country and speculate on how well they would do in CodeS/CodeA/CodeB I get this tier list :

Code S
01. Korea - for obvious reasons, + Flash, Jaedong and Bisu may switch to SC2 on day. Scary!

-----------------

Code A
02. Sweden (NaNiwa, SaSe, ThorZaIN, SjoW, MorroW)
03. Ukraine (White-Ra, Kas, Strelok, Dimaga, Bly)
04. China (LoveCD, MacSed, Loner, XiGua, F91)

-----------------
Code B
05. Poland (MaNa, SLiDeR, Tarson, DieStar, Nerchio)
05. Canada (HuK, TT1, KiWiKaKi, Drewbie, SLush)
05. Russia (TitaN, Pomi, Brat_OK, Happy, LiveZerg)

08. USA (Gatored, qxc, TriMaster, IdrA, Sheth)
08. France (ToD, Adelscott, SarenS, Stephano, MoMaN)
08. Germany (HasuObs, Socke, GoOdy, TLO, DarKFoRcE)

11. Finland (elfi, Welmu, Naama, Satiini,??????)

Bly Code A level and MaNa, Nerchio HuK

Taiwan, Australia, Netherlands somewhere in code B too.

-----------------

The way I see this list is that countries in a Tier can compete against a country within their Tier.
China may be way higher in the list, not sure at all of their ranking.

My 2 cents on the topic


Bly Code A level? I'd say more than half the players you listed on Code B level are better than him^^ Bly is good obviously, but still come on..
hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
December 29 2011 20:05 GMT
#760
France team ftw

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