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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
August 17 2011 02:16 GMT
#2141
On August 17 2011 11:07 Robonord wrote:
Don't understand why people are surprised. This is how Incontrol is. He will always play the victim, always laugh at people publicly and get called out, then go cry about it on the forums. The more he does this the more it just hurts him, more people will see this behavior and see him for who he really is.

I started out as an Incontrol fan as well way back on early SotGs but after a while I realized what an ass he is (restreaming GSL being the incident that changed my mind) and I stopped supporting him.


Kind of like reddit then, huh? the place where all this senseless Inc bashing started, their SC community is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Half the posts over there are people praising Destiny when he BM's someone and the other half is people shitting all over Inc when he laughs at the wrong time on itg.
We make signature, then defense it.
Ghola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
August 17 2011 02:16 GMT
#2142
On August 17 2011 11:10 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 10:59 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:52 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:40 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:29 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:19 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:15 mcc wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:40 Jibba wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:38 Jankisa wrote:
Really, really, Incontrol is pissed off because someone on forums mentioned that he's doing bad at the moment, and feels free to shit all over and giggle whit Idra over Drewbie (I'm not really he's fan but he's wiped the floor whit both of them on multiple occasions in clan wars).

Also, if he was acting 100% genuine he'd be all over Idra for bashing on his now teamate just few shows ago, but seems like It's ok if he's in EG.

Dear God,

It's the same story with a different player every week. Stay classy, EG.


Excuse me? Want me to explain why publically laying into IdrA on our show would be a bad idea? No, didn't think so. And no, I didn't fucking laugh at Drewbie going to korea I argued there may be damn good reasons why they are sending him.

Yes that is understandable, but how come that Idra is doing it constantly for a long time and nothing changes. Seems like EG is gladly tolerating it, so don't be surprised that other people will do that to you.
Also what makes it classy is the fact that while you rage at people calling you bad, your reaction to Idra being much worse is just laughing at Idra being Idra.


IdrA being a dick doesn't stop my feelings from being hurt when people are dicks to me.. how in your backwards logic does it work that I don't have a right to be upset until I stop idra from being a dick? How does that work? I don't control him. I don't tell him what to do. I've TOLD him I don't like it and I've told him he could do better to do less of it but it's his choice. Just like when I tell the community less negativity would be nice I don't actually get the ability to force them to do it.

It REALLY sucks sitting here getting called a hypocrite cause I hate all the negativity but somehow because someone on my team is negative I don't get to do that.


It would definitely help out on your hypocrite image if you on one of the talkshows said to idra that you disliked him being a dick, and asked him not to talk shit to other people. In every talk show you seem to indirectly defend him some way when the discussion is on idras behaviour. If you have actually (on air) said that Idras behaviour is not acceptable I will apologize for my statement, however I dont think thats the case.


So what? You're saying Incontrol should just publicly bash his own teammate to make himself look better? Sounds like a dick move to me.


Perhaps. But right now he acts like a hypocrite. The alternative is to stop whining, and accept that receiving criticism is fine, which puts you in a position to critisize other people. I would definitely think the last option is the best one. But Incontrol gotta choose something, if he doesn't wanna act like an hypocrite.


He's refraining from doing the exact thing that you said makes idra a dick. If you think that's hypocritical then I don't know what to tell you.

Seriously, there's something wrong with you if you think purposely putting your team mate in a bad light on air for personal gain is in any way appropriate behavior.


Read what I said again. You must have misunderstood it. I never said anything about what the right behaviour should be. I said what he could do if he wanted to stop being a hypocrite.


Doing what you said to do would be being a hypocrite.
xXMetalxxGearXx
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#2143
I sure hope there's discussion about HuK on SotG tonight
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:20:09
August 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#2144
On August 17 2011 11:16 Ghola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 11:10 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:59 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:52 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:40 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:29 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:19 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:15 mcc wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:40 Jibba wrote:
[quote]
It's the same story with a different player every week. Stay classy, EG.


Excuse me? Want me to explain why publically laying into IdrA on our show would be a bad idea? No, didn't think so. And no, I didn't fucking laugh at Drewbie going to korea I argued there may be damn good reasons why they are sending him.

Yes that is understandable, but how come that Idra is doing it constantly for a long time and nothing changes. Seems like EG is gladly tolerating it, so don't be surprised that other people will do that to you.
Also what makes it classy is the fact that while you rage at people calling you bad, your reaction to Idra being much worse is just laughing at Idra being Idra.


IdrA being a dick doesn't stop my feelings from being hurt when people are dicks to me.. how in your backwards logic does it work that I don't have a right to be upset until I stop idra from being a dick? How does that work? I don't control him. I don't tell him what to do. I've TOLD him I don't like it and I've told him he could do better to do less of it but it's his choice. Just like when I tell the community less negativity would be nice I don't actually get the ability to force them to do it.

It REALLY sucks sitting here getting called a hypocrite cause I hate all the negativity but somehow because someone on my team is negative I don't get to do that.


It would definitely help out on your hypocrite image if you on one of the talkshows said to idra that you disliked him being a dick, and asked him not to talk shit to other people. In every talk show you seem to indirectly defend him some way when the discussion is on idras behaviour. If you have actually (on air) said that Idras behaviour is not acceptable I will apologize for my statement, however I dont think thats the case.


So what? You're saying Incontrol should just publicly bash his own teammate to make himself look better? Sounds like a dick move to me.


Perhaps. But right now he acts like a hypocrite. The alternative is to stop whining, and accept that receiving criticism is fine, which puts you in a position to critisize other people. I would definitely think the last option is the best one. But Incontrol gotta choose something, if he doesn't wanna act like an hypocrite.


He's refraining from doing the exact thing that you said makes idra a dick. If you think that's hypocritical then I don't know what to tell you.

Seriously, there's something wrong with you if you think purposely putting your team mate in a bad light on air for personal gain is in any way appropriate behavior.


Read what I said again. You must have misunderstood it. I never said anything about what the right behaviour should be. I said what he could do if he wanted to stop being a hypocrite.


Doing what you said to do would be being a hypocrite.


Why?
Is idra a hypocrite?
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
August 17 2011 02:24 GMT
#2145
On August 17 2011 11:19 xXMetalxxGearXx wrote:
I sure hope there's discussion about HuK on SotG tonight
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JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:33:52
August 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#2146
On August 17 2011 11:03 Duravi wrote:
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On August 17 2011 10:49 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:51 iNcontroL wrote:
I FUCKING SAID IT ISN'T FAIR TO ARGUE THEY CAN SEND SOMEONE ELSE

I never fucking giggled about drewbie going to korea WTF?

Fuck some of you. Fuck you Duravi


A great joke when a prominent figure in the community can just blatantly insult other people is considered acceptable. you think throwing profanity into every other sentence is supposed to somehow reinforces your arguments? or are people supposed to detect the frustration in your voice and sympathize?


He is a community veteran I really don't have a problem with him saying "fuck you" to someone even if it is me. He just needs to learn not everyone is going to agree with everything you do, and cursing at people in a thread just makes you look immature even if you believe you are in the right. Like I said before there is a reason Incontrol gets more hate than Idra, even though Idra is far more inflammatory.


It may be acceptable to you but attaining a veteran status shouldn't exempt you from basic community etiquette. Just like how I disagree with people using post counts to invalidate other people's arguments (aside from the obvious trolls). Can you imagine if everyone on this forum just said "fuck you" to whoever disagreed with them? But seriously I'm reading his recent posts in this thread and I can hardly count the number of times some derivative of the word "fuck" has come up. I agree with your other points though.
Ghola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:30:48
August 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#2147
On August 17 2011 11:19 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 11:16 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:10 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:59 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:52 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:40 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:29 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:19 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:15 mcc wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
[quote]

Excuse me? Want me to explain why publically laying into IdrA on our show would be a bad idea? No, didn't think so. And no, I didn't fucking laugh at Drewbie going to korea I argued there may be damn good reasons why they are sending him.

Yes that is understandable, but how come that Idra is doing it constantly for a long time and nothing changes. Seems like EG is gladly tolerating it, so don't be surprised that other people will do that to you.
Also what makes it classy is the fact that while you rage at people calling you bad, your reaction to Idra being much worse is just laughing at Idra being Idra.


IdrA being a dick doesn't stop my feelings from being hurt when people are dicks to me.. how in your backwards logic does it work that I don't have a right to be upset until I stop idra from being a dick? How does that work? I don't control him. I don't tell him what to do. I've TOLD him I don't like it and I've told him he could do better to do less of it but it's his choice. Just like when I tell the community less negativity would be nice I don't actually get the ability to force them to do it.

It REALLY sucks sitting here getting called a hypocrite cause I hate all the negativity but somehow because someone on my team is negative I don't get to do that.


It would definitely help out on your hypocrite image if you on one of the talkshows said to idra that you disliked him being a dick, and asked him not to talk shit to other people. In every talk show you seem to indirectly defend him some way when the discussion is on idras behaviour. If you have actually (on air) said that Idras behaviour is not acceptable I will apologize for my statement, however I dont think thats the case.


So what? You're saying Incontrol should just publicly bash his own teammate to make himself look better? Sounds like a dick move to me.


Perhaps. But right now he acts like a hypocrite. The alternative is to stop whining, and accept that receiving criticism is fine, which puts you in a position to critisize other people. I would definitely think the last option is the best one. But Incontrol gotta choose something, if he doesn't wanna act like an hypocrite.


He's refraining from doing the exact thing that you said makes idra a dick. If you think that's hypocritical then I don't know what to tell you.

Seriously, there's something wrong with you if you think purposely putting your team mate in a bad light on air for personal gain is in any way appropriate behavior.


Read what I said again. You must have misunderstood it. I never said anything about what the right behaviour should be. I said what he could do if he wanted to stop being a hypocrite.


Doing what you said to do would be being a hypocrite.


Why?
Is idra a hypocrite?


No, neither is Incontrol. These are two different people we're talking about.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
August 17 2011 02:32 GMT
#2148
On August 17 2011 10:59 Ghola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 10:52 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:40 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:29 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:19 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:15 mcc wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:40 Jibba wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:38 Jankisa wrote:
Really, really, Incontrol is pissed off because someone on forums mentioned that he's doing bad at the moment, and feels free to shit all over and giggle whit Idra over Drewbie (I'm not really he's fan but he's wiped the floor whit both of them on multiple occasions in clan wars).

Also, if he was acting 100% genuine he'd be all over Idra for bashing on his now teamate just few shows ago, but seems like It's ok if he's in EG.

Dear God,

It's the same story with a different player every week. Stay classy, EG.


Excuse me? Want me to explain why publically laying into IdrA on our show would be a bad idea? No, didn't think so. And no, I didn't fucking laugh at Drewbie going to korea I argued there may be damn good reasons why they are sending him.

Yes that is understandable, but how come that Idra is doing it constantly for a long time and nothing changes. Seems like EG is gladly tolerating it, so don't be surprised that other people will do that to you.
Also what makes it classy is the fact that while you rage at people calling you bad, your reaction to Idra being much worse is just laughing at Idra being Idra.


IdrA being a dick doesn't stop my feelings from being hurt when people are dicks to me.. how in your backwards logic does it work that I don't have a right to be upset until I stop idra from being a dick? How does that work? I don't control him. I don't tell him what to do. I've TOLD him I don't like it and I've told him he could do better to do less of it but it's his choice. Just like when I tell the community less negativity would be nice I don't actually get the ability to force them to do it.

It REALLY sucks sitting here getting called a hypocrite cause I hate all the negativity but somehow because someone on my team is negative I don't get to do that.


It would definitely help out on your hypocrite image if you on one of the talkshows said to idra that you disliked him being a dick, and asked him not to talk shit to other people. In every talk show you seem to indirectly defend him some way when the discussion is on idras behaviour. If you have actually (on air) said that Idras behaviour is not acceptable I will apologize for my statement, however I dont think thats the case.


So what? You're saying Incontrol should just publicly bash his own teammate to make himself look better? Sounds like a dick move to me.


Perhaps. But right now he acts like a hypocrite. The alternative is to stop whining, and accept that receiving criticism is fine, which puts you in a position to critisize other people. I would definitely think the last option is the best one. But Incontrol gotta choose something, if he doesn't wanna act like an hypocrite.


He's refraining from doing the exact thing that you said makes idra a dick. If you think that's hypocritical then I don't know what to tell you.

Seriously, there's something wrong with you if you think purposely putting your team mate in a bad light on air for personal gain is in any way appropriate behavior.


He is complaining about a general absurd amount of negativity on the forums regarding his skill (which is true), he then goes on to imply that the negativity is hard to deal with (which it must be), yet he is okay when his teammate (and friend presumably) literally laughs out loud when another player (of similar or above skill to incontrol) announces he is going to korea to train. Do you not see the hypocritical nature of claiming that negativity is hard to deal with and that people should get off your case, then saying literally nothing when idra is by far one of the most negative people in regards to the skills of others (if he was not friends/teammates with most of his team he would be saying the same things to them he says to drewbie).


Also, idra must be the worst person to get a lesson from.
"So.... idra.... what do I do if I have to fight a maxed protoss army with my max zerg army?"
"Oh, theres nothing you can do you just die"
"Oh......... ok then"
-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
August 17 2011 02:32 GMT
#2149
can someone point out to me the 'haters'

i have been looking and i really can't find people who just bash incontrol every chance they get (maybe a few attention whores like stark1, don't really care about just one person) aside from stream chat which doesn't count because people in stream chat are actually malicious ravaging cave trolls who found a computer

I think you guys are blowing this out of proportion. He gets some random hate from the incredibly vocal minority but who gives a fuck about them.

"Don't talk about the vocal minority of 'haters' and suddenly they don't exist" -my #1 rule to internet efame

look at IdrA, he has haters, but he doesn't address them, he doesn't even treat them like humans. he has said "i dont give a fuck about what they think" in past interviews / talkshows.

that needs to be youre attitude quite frankly Geoff. It's 90% fans / supporters, 10% idiot obnoxious retards who didn't get hugged enough as a child.
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
August 17 2011 02:33 GMT
#2150
On August 17 2011 11:07 Robonord wrote:
Don't understand why people are surprised. This is how Incontrol is. He will always play the victim, always laugh at people publicly and get called out, then go cry about it on the forums. The more he does this the more it just hurts him, more people will see this behavior and see him for who he really is.

I started out as an Incontrol fan as well way back on early SotGs but after a while I realized what an ass he is (restreaming GSL being the incident that changed my mind) and I stopped supporting him.


Yeah... he banned someone who was trash talking him all over reddit, TL, and on his stream... what a bad guy. Pretty sure if you were in the same position you wouldn't do the exact same thing.
GrandMaster Terran NA Server / Mod @ justin.tv/incontrol
Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:47:24
August 17 2011 02:46 GMT
#2151
On August 17 2011 10:49 Stark1 wrote:
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On August 17 2011 10:43 Jibba wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:39 Stark1 wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:35 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:32 Stark1 wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:27 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:25 nvs. wrote:
Please PM me next time because your red name gives people license to kill when they see you on their side.


Don't you remember your uber sarcastic responses when you were a mod? ^^


Probably part of the reason I am no longer a mod right?

Speaking to someone who currently is a mod they could probably learn from someone who made some mistakes right?

Nah, you are one of my favorite anti-fans.. I'm sure you are just waiting for the next lil thing to spin into a hate message!


Oh look! Another implication that any negative opinions toward you come only from spiteful douchebags! You'd think all that red herring would be good for the brain?


Hey guys for a good joke go to Stark1's profile and click on the "posts" link

of his 73 posts check out how many of them are completely random jabs at me!

Seriously, take a look.



Yup! Many of my posts on TL are me voicing my opinions on matters/people in SC2 that I find objectionable; care to guess why you top my list? Also, nice work on the subtle implication that I can't have an equal opinion due to a low post count.

It had nothing to do with your having a low post count. Probably 1/5th of your posts are about iNc in some way. I'm just going to say drop it, because this current argument is going nowhere.


You got it, chief.

+ Show Spoiler +
Though I would like to point out that post counts being public (and your "rule 6" by extension) can only do harm to forums such as these.


Are you kidding me? How in hell could it possibly hurt these forums. It helps so much to 1. Tell who has been here awhile, very high post count means the guy is generally a good poster because bad ones are usually weeded out before they can get fairly high 2. Allow people to look back and see patterns in someone's posting to see how they really feel and what kind of poster they are. 3. Make people take responsibility for their previous posts and allow them to be called out if they are terrible.

After looking at your post history , one can easily conclude you have some kind of beef with Inc, you have a history of inflammatory and negative posts, and are likely only here to cause trouble. Please stay out of this thread instead of adding to the shitstorm with your senseless bashing of Inc.
"People need to just settle the fuck down!"- Djwheat <3
Ghola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:53:03
August 17 2011 02:48 GMT
#2152
On August 17 2011 11:32 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 10:59 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:52 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:40 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:29 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:19 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:15 mcc wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:40 Jibba wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:38 Jankisa wrote:
Really, really, Incontrol is pissed off because someone on forums mentioned that he's doing bad at the moment, and feels free to shit all over and giggle whit Idra over Drewbie (I'm not really he's fan but he's wiped the floor whit both of them on multiple occasions in clan wars).

Also, if he was acting 100% genuine he'd be all over Idra for bashing on his now teamate just few shows ago, but seems like It's ok if he's in EG.

Dear God,

It's the same story with a different player every week. Stay classy, EG.


Excuse me? Want me to explain why publically laying into IdrA on our show would be a bad idea? No, didn't think so. And no, I didn't fucking laugh at Drewbie going to korea I argued there may be damn good reasons why they are sending him.

Yes that is understandable, but how come that Idra is doing it constantly for a long time and nothing changes. Seems like EG is gladly tolerating it, so don't be surprised that other people will do that to you.
Also what makes it classy is the fact that while you rage at people calling you bad, your reaction to Idra being much worse is just laughing at Idra being Idra.


IdrA being a dick doesn't stop my feelings from being hurt when people are dicks to me.. how in your backwards logic does it work that I don't have a right to be upset until I stop idra from being a dick? How does that work? I don't control him. I don't tell him what to do. I've TOLD him I don't like it and I've told him he could do better to do less of it but it's his choice. Just like when I tell the community less negativity would be nice I don't actually get the ability to force them to do it.

It REALLY sucks sitting here getting called a hypocrite cause I hate all the negativity but somehow because someone on my team is negative I don't get to do that.


It would definitely help out on your hypocrite image if you on one of the talkshows said to idra that you disliked him being a dick, and asked him not to talk shit to other people. In every talk show you seem to indirectly defend him some way when the discussion is on idras behaviour. If you have actually (on air) said that Idras behaviour is not acceptable I will apologize for my statement, however I dont think thats the case.


So what? You're saying Incontrol should just publicly bash his own teammate to make himself look better? Sounds like a dick move to me.


Perhaps. But right now he acts like a hypocrite. The alternative is to stop whining, and accept that receiving criticism is fine, which puts you in a position to critisize other people. I would definitely think the last option is the best one. But Incontrol gotta choose something, if he doesn't wanna act like an hypocrite.


He's refraining from doing the exact thing that you said makes idra a dick. If you think that's hypocritical then I don't know what to tell you.

Seriously, there's something wrong with you if you think purposely putting your team mate in a bad light on air for personal gain is in any way appropriate behavior.


He is complaining about a general absurd amount of negativity on the forums regarding his skill (which is true), he then goes on to imply that the negativity is hard to deal with (which it must be), yet he is okay when his teammate (and friend presumably) literally laughs out loud when another player (of similar or above skill to incontrol) announces he is going to korea to train. Do you not see the hypocritical nature of claiming that negativity is hard to deal with and that people should get off your case, then saying literally nothing when idra is by far one of the most negative people in regards to the skills of others (if he was not friends/teammates with most of his team he would be saying the same things to them he says to drewbie).


Also, idra must be the worst person to get a lesson from.
"So.... idra.... what do I do if I have to fight a maxed protoss army with my max zerg army?"
"Oh, theres nothing you can do you just die"
"Oh......... ok then"


Did you read his posts? Just because he doesn't make a public statement every time idra bm's another player doesn't mean he never talked to idra about it. Incontrol doesn't have control over the shit that Idra says, so I don't see why you hold him accountable for it.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#2153
On August 17 2011 11:48 Ghola wrote:
Did you read his posts? Just because he doesn't make a public statement every time idra bm's another player doesn't mean he never talked to idra about it. Incontrol can't help it if idra decides to insult another player, that's idra's decision.


Right, but that doesn't take away the fact that it is hypocritical to state he hates negativity when he is completely fine with it as long as it is towards other players. Also, the point isn't that incontrol should talk to idra about it, its that incontrol should do what most of his fans (myself included) want him to do and simply ignore the negative people. Its what most pro players do at idras opinion as well.
Tyrellius
Profile Joined February 2011
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 02:56:57
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#2154
NVM! I am from the future!
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
August 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#2155
On August 17 2011 11:48 Ghola wrote:
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On August 17 2011 11:32 MrDudeMan wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:59 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:52 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:40 Ghola wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:29 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:19 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 10:15 mcc wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:40 Jibba wrote:
[quote]
It's the same story with a different player every week. Stay classy, EG.


Excuse me? Want me to explain why publically laying into IdrA on our show would be a bad idea? No, didn't think so. And no, I didn't fucking laugh at Drewbie going to korea I argued there may be damn good reasons why they are sending him.

Yes that is understandable, but how come that Idra is doing it constantly for a long time and nothing changes. Seems like EG is gladly tolerating it, so don't be surprised that other people will do that to you.
Also what makes it classy is the fact that while you rage at people calling you bad, your reaction to Idra being much worse is just laughing at Idra being Idra.


IdrA being a dick doesn't stop my feelings from being hurt when people are dicks to me.. how in your backwards logic does it work that I don't have a right to be upset until I stop idra from being a dick? How does that work? I don't control him. I don't tell him what to do. I've TOLD him I don't like it and I've told him he could do better to do less of it but it's his choice. Just like when I tell the community less negativity would be nice I don't actually get the ability to force them to do it.

It REALLY sucks sitting here getting called a hypocrite cause I hate all the negativity but somehow because someone on my team is negative I don't get to do that.


It would definitely help out on your hypocrite image if you on one of the talkshows said to idra that you disliked him being a dick, and asked him not to talk shit to other people. In every talk show you seem to indirectly defend him some way when the discussion is on idras behaviour. If you have actually (on air) said that Idras behaviour is not acceptable I will apologize for my statement, however I dont think thats the case.


So what? You're saying Incontrol should just publicly bash his own teammate to make himself look better? Sounds like a dick move to me.


Perhaps. But right now he acts like a hypocrite. The alternative is to stop whining, and accept that receiving criticism is fine, which puts you in a position to critisize other people. I would definitely think the last option is the best one. But Incontrol gotta choose something, if he doesn't wanna act like an hypocrite.


He's refraining from doing the exact thing that you said makes idra a dick. If you think that's hypocritical then I don't know what to tell you.

Seriously, there's something wrong with you if you think purposely putting your team mate in a bad light on air for personal gain is in any way appropriate behavior.


He is complaining about a general absurd amount of negativity on the forums regarding his skill (which is true), he then goes on to imply that the negativity is hard to deal with (which it must be), yet he is okay when his teammate (and friend presumably) literally laughs out loud when another player (of similar or above skill to incontrol) announces he is going to korea to train. Do you not see the hypocritical nature of claiming that negativity is hard to deal with and that people should get off your case, then saying literally nothing when idra is by far one of the most negative people in regards to the skills of others (if he was not friends/teammates with most of his team he would be saying the same things to them he says to drewbie).


Also, idra must be the worst person to get a lesson from.
"So.... idra.... what do I do if I have to fight a maxed protoss army with my max zerg army?"
"Oh, theres nothing you can do you just die"
"Oh......... ok then"


Did you read his posts? Just because he doesn't make a public statement every time idra bm's another player doesn't mean he never talked to idra about it. Incontrol can't help it if idra decides to insult another player, that's idra's decision.


It is also people's decision if they want to hold that against him or not. TBH I am getting tired of people whining about players being criticized for their performance or things they say. Have you guys never watched/listened to Jim Rome's show or Dan Patricks'? A lot of people in esports need to just grow a spine, not everyone is going to like you or be your fan. Deal with it.
Ghola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
August 17 2011 02:55 GMT
#2156
On August 17 2011 11:53 MrDudeMan wrote:
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On August 17 2011 11:48 Ghola wrote:
Did you read his posts? Just because he doesn't make a public statement every time idra bm's another player doesn't mean he never talked to idra about it. Incontrol can't help it if idra decides to insult another player, that's idra's decision.


Right, but that doesn't take away the fact that it is hypocritical to state he hates negativity when he is completely fine with it as long as it is towards other players. Also, the point isn't that incontrol should talk to idra about it, its that incontrol should do what most of his fans (myself included) want him to do and simply ignore the negative people. Its what most pro players do at idras opinion as well.


He said he wasn't fine with it. And he said he's talked to idra in private about it. There isn't much else he can do.

But I agree that he should just ignore the trolls.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
August 17 2011 03:00 GMT
#2157
On August 17 2011 09:55 Jinivus wrote:
Incontrol is the 9 year old that talks shit about everybody, then when a single harsh word is said to him, it's straight to the principals office to tell on them and to cry to his mommy. Nice.

iNcontroL is Cartman.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
August 17 2011 03:08 GMT
#2158
On August 17 2011 11:03 Duravi wrote:
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On August 17 2011 10:49 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 17 2011 09:51 iNcontroL wrote:
I FUCKING SAID IT ISN'T FAIR TO ARGUE THEY CAN SEND SOMEONE ELSE

I never fucking giggled about drewbie going to korea WTF?

Fuck some of you. Fuck you Duravi


A great joke when a prominent figure in the community can just blatantly insult other people is considered acceptable. you think throwing profanity into every other sentence is supposed to somehow reinforces your arguments? or are people supposed to detect the frustration in your voice and sympathize?


He is a community veteran I really don't have a problem with him saying "fuck you" to someone even if it is me. He just needs to learn not everyone is going to agree with everything you do, and cursing at people in a thread just makes you look immature even if you believe you are in the right. Like I said before there is a reason Incontrol gets more hate than Idra, even though Idra is far more inflammatory.


Because idra is completely inaccessible to the community on here, or really anywhere. So yeah good point, players shouldn't interact in any way with the community if they plan on having opinions. It's not like it would be awesome to have people like artosis posting opinion pieces, or have idra start posting in the strategy section again. Perfectly fine to deride them at the drop of the hat, then call them immature when for some reason they respond poorly.

For the record I would agree that inc shouldn't bother responding directly to jackasses on the forum just because nothing good would come of it, but I also find it hilarious that you have the gall to give him condescending pointers minutes after jumping to a hasty conclusion that it turns out was completely wrong. I mean, thank god no one cares enough to keep track of every post you've ever made and dissect it. Who knows, you could be in danger of being a hypocrite if you've ever responded to someone getting on your nerves before.
tony4
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada56 Posts
August 17 2011 03:11 GMT
#2159
Idra laughs at anyone not tagged EG who tries to better themselves. His infantile behavior is old, played out and predictable. Drewbie is working hard to get better and we will support him 100%. Idra needs to grow up and grow some balls.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 17 2011 03:11 GMT
#2160
not to throw things off topic, but now adays seems like the word troll is being used to classify anyone that bothers anyone else online, heck even people who give decent criticism are considered trolls.

anyways incontroll you really shouldn't have given idra that opportunity to completely laugh and trash drewbie. "I think we should go to idra for his thoughts." if I had to put money on it, you knew he would be a dick and were aiming at making it a joke, and thus incontroll you look like a dick. (regardless of whatever your personal beliefs may be) -.-
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