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Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
April 22 2011 01:54 GMT
#141
The single caster doesn't bother me too much, reminds me a lot of how football (soccer if you will) is broadcasted over here, several matches per broadcast with just one commentator doing a what people here like to call "play-by-play" commentary, with maybe a more extensive commentary on finals or more high-profile matches. Especially in the earlier stages of the tournament I'd mostly be watching the matches for light entertainment anyway, and this is a pretty good format for that
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Pwnergizer Bunny
Profile Joined July 2010
United States110 Posts
April 22 2011 01:54 GMT
#142
This is very impressive.
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MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
April 22 2011 01:54 GMT
#143
On April 22 2011 10:17 Eppa! wrote:
Having no analytical commentators is pretty annoying.

Only downfall IMO, but I am not complaining. It is a great show to watch.
MileyCyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States285 Posts
April 22 2011 01:54 GMT
#144
The production value is amazing, by any standards.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#145
i love seeing people so excited for a sc2 league, and a new NA league at that
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
April 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#146
For Division 1, 3, 4 and 5 of the NASL, I'll probably tune in for select matches and just look up the results for others, like I said, the NASL has the potential for some really great games.

Also, I can easily just check out the VODs for the IPL at any time for free.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 01:55:43
April 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#147
Honestly I can't take the IPL seriously considering they updated the whole bracket on their website with the full results of the tournaments, so saying that their production values are great is kinda moot since so many people know who won the whole thing because of their massive screwup. Whereas with the nasl thats kinda impossible so its more exciting...

that said the pictures are pretty cool
hihihi
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 01:56:53
April 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#148
Very nice from the IPL, but people trash talking the NASL are seriously getting out of proportion... not even GOM has this kind of production, and it's simple enough why: Rupert Murdoch. If you can't really see the difference that was to be expected between a Rupert Murdoch owned company and seven amateur esports fans, no matter how you try to spin it, what you're saying is that you want the NASL to fail. Unless what you're trying to say is that you want all media billionaires in the world to get into esports. In that case, I'm all ears as to how you're going to do it.

Still, we should keep being nice to the IPL so they spoil us more, that way even GOM may fear going down in the pecking order of the community, 'cause really, half of what keeps GOM up there is Tastosis

Edit: ^^^ You know, some people don't want to know what you just said...
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
April 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#149
...and yet, through all of this awesomeness...I can't help but feel guilty and and sorry for NASL ._.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 22 2011 01:56 GMT
#150
we get free 1080 vods too? this league rocks.
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
April 22 2011 01:56 GMT
#151
stream quality and less down time are the two big pluses over nasl

i understand that NASL has a gigantic prize pool though, and are looking to make some back in stream fees so that's fine.

however, the 30 minute preshow could be fine tuned
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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
April 22 2011 01:56 GMT
#152
Impressive debut day for the IPL indeed, i really like the win animation and end game stats screen.
2 casters would be ideal but wheat and TB are doing a good job soloing it so far.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
April 22 2011 01:56 GMT
#153
This league is so slick, great quality and smooth stream, even from europe ! Neat neat !
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#154
On April 22 2011 10:52 TyPsi5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 10:48 FakePlasticLove wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:47 SKC wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys.

It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting.

IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down.

That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show...


Honestly, this may be a little harsh, but does it really matter? What matters is what is more enjoyable and more succesfull. If NASL chose a system they cant handle and would be more sucessful with another system, it's their fault, and if they would attract more viewers as a smaller league, perhaps they shouldn't have tried to grow that big that fast. Still, they may fix a lot of things and stop looking this bad, so it may be too soon to say it was a mistake.

This. To the viewer, IPL blows NASL out of the water.


blows NASL out of the water? maybe to you..

it got turned off as soon as TB came on..


Heh i had to mute him so i could watch idra but not rage cause of terrible casting.
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FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
April 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#155
IPL's free stream > NASL's paid stream...hmmm
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Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 01:59:08
April 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#156
On April 22 2011 10:52 TyPsi5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 10:48 FakePlasticLove wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:47 SKC wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:
On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys.

It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting.

IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down.

That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show...


Honestly, this may be a little harsh, but does it really matter? What matters is what is more enjoyable and more succesfull. If NASL chose a system they cant handle and would be more sucessful with another system, it's their fault, and if they would attract more viewers as a smaller league, perhaps they shouldn't have tried to grow that big that fast. Still, they may fix a lot of things and stop looking this bad, so it may be too soon to say it was a mistake.

This. To the viewer, IPL blows NASL out of the water.


blows NASL out of the water? maybe to you..

it got turned off as soon as TB came on..


Take a look at the viewer count. TB is loved by many whether he appeals to you personally or not. Wheat is also a great caster and the IPL is so far amazing and noone can deny that it's making the NASL league look terrible especially considering they're trying to charge $25 for their service.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
April 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#157
I think a rule of thumb for solo casting should be unless your last name is plot don't do it.
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resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
April 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#158
On April 22 2011 10:49 Elefanto wrote:
The Ign guy on State of the Game kept word, the production value is astounding.


I was thinking that, he must be so fucking happy right now - because this is a treat to watch.

Casting is excellent, love TB - but because he is an acquired taste it works perfectly to have multiple casters.

Production quality is second only to GSL.

Shows what you can do with good application rather than throwing money and words around.
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SiCkO_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States481 Posts
April 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#159
i just turned on the iPL and was really impressed

what would be great if these two leagues worked with each other like MBC Game and OGN to create a really great system with high quality and great games
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
April 22 2011 01:57 GMT
#160
Production is IGN quality. What would you expect. Beautifully done. The problem is that Total biscuit needs someone substantive with him. It doesn't even have to be a player. Someone of Diggity's caliber would add a lot to the cast. This is a non trivial fault, but overall another great league.
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