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On April 22 2011 10:47 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote:On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show... Honestly, this may be a little harsh, but does it really matter? What matters is what is more enjoyable and more succesfull. If NASL chose a system they cant handle and would be more sucessful with another system, it's their fault, and if they would attract more viewers as a smaller league, perhaps they shouldn't have tried to grow that big that fast. Still, they may fix a lot of things and stop looking this bad, so it may be too soon to say it was a mistake.
This. To the viewer, IPL blows NASL out of the water.
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On April 22 2011 10:44 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:43 Mordiford wrote:On April 22 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote:On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show... Yeah, but once again... WHY? If they had recorded the first set a week in advance, they could have had a week buffer for each set at the NASL, they could have live-casted from replays even and no one would have noticed anything on the viewer end. They would just have had more time to polish and improve their quality. If you're not doing an actual in person, live tournament... then why does any of that shit matter? The community complained enough that NASL wasn't going to be live...
Yeah, but when you're not going to be live, then all the other shit doesn't matter anyways so you might as well discard all of that as well.
If they were going to be completely live, I would understand.
Even then, I'd sort of be a little confused as to what the point was if it's not an in-person tournament.
As it stands, them live-casting... live-games make no difference, they could be casting replays for all it matters...
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The Ign guy on State of the Game kept word, the production value is astounding.
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I was gonna write exactly this! Look at that production quality!
Pretty fricken awesome
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On April 22 2011 10:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Whoa, the "win" animation, backdrop results page, etc. is a very nice touch.
Rotating casters is interesting too!
Oh! They rotated the casters!!
Shweet. I like NASL and IPL equally, but the latter is definitely growing on me.
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NASL is terrible compared to this. I generally hate Brittish accents but this guy is already better than the casters in the NASL. AND stardard quality free stream does not look like hell.
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The fact NASL has "premium content" yet cant match IPL which is free is kind of pathetic.
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oh thats interesting. had the least expectancy from IPL
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Really good production.
Of course I wasn't really expecting much in terms of quality of games, considering this is their first season and the players are mostly invites. But still Select's games were pretty good, since I'm a Select fan myself.
But yeah, they need to get more color commentators (analysts)... Day9 maybe. Wheat on his own is pretty bad actually and TB is kind of annoying, but again with a pair it could be pretty alright.
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On April 22 2011 10:47 Dommk wrote:Can't even fathom why some people would choose one or the other...I just watch which ever has the better games going on. i.e Watching IGN's Stalife vs Kiwikaki then moved onto NASL to watch Whitera vs Sjow, then I'm going to switch back and watch the remaining Idra vs Fenix followed by Aghs vs Catz + Mini vs Vibe So many good games to choose from, if you focus on just one league then it is your loss 
for the casual gamers it isnt even about the players. they want to complain about graphics or casters.
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IGN pro league actually IS that good it justifies a thread rubbing it in. The production and casting have been absolute top notch so far. Haven't heard DjWheat solo cast for quite some time, but he's doing a great job at it. I mean, dual casters are almost always preferable in my book but Wheat shows he can shoulder it all on his own. Solo casting is something TotalBiscuit does more often than not so he's obviously incredibly comfortable with it and it shows. It's delicious.
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I'm really impressed with IPL, this is pretty incredible.
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Aside from the results getting leaked, they're doing a good job. I think they'd benefit from 2 casters per match instead of one but it's not bad at all. Puts NASL to shame.
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On April 22 2011 10:48 FakePlasticLove wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:47 SKC wrote:On April 22 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote:On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show... Honestly, this may be a little harsh, but does it really matter? What matters is what is more enjoyable and more succesfull. If NASL chose a system they cant handle and would be more sucessful with another system, it's their fault, and if they would attract more viewers as a smaller league, perhaps they shouldn't have tried to grow that big that fast. Still, they may fix a lot of things and stop looking this bad, so it may be too soon to say it was a mistake. This. To the viewer, IPL blows NASL out of the water.
blows NASL out of the water? maybe to you..
it got turned off as soon as TB came on..
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On April 22 2011 10:49 Z3kk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Whoa, the "win" animation, backdrop results page, etc. is a very nice touch.
Rotating casters is interesting too! Oh! They rotated the casters!! Shweet. I like NASL and IPL equally, but the latter is definitely growing on me.
Yeah and TB is a badasssssssss
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I wasn't even looking forward to IPL because I didn't know enough about it, so to see how great it is out of the gate I'll be sure to tune in as much as possible.
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Production values are really really high. Can't believe I didn't have to pay to watch this.
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Amazing production!! I likes and may start watching this!! :D
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This is actually pretty slick, they've got some incredible potential here.
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