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On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys.
It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting.
IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down.
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On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down.
You're comparing a game that was recorded a week in advance to live casting.
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Lol this thread title is hilarious; i think this can be used as more of a feedback thread like the NASL one 
So far really impressive from IGN - awesome production value and well executed.
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On April 22 2011 10:37 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. You're comparing a game that was recorded a week in advance to live casting.
Yeah... Nasl isn't live dude >.>
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On April 22 2011 10:37 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. You're comparing a game that was recorded a week in advance to live casting.
Hate to break it to you this way, but....NASL is not live.
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On April 22 2011 10:29 adeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:28 Elefanto wrote:On April 22 2011 10:27 redviper wrote:
How is their stream so good through justin.tv and NASL stream was having so much trouble also on justin.tv? Some have professional ressources / staff, some don't. The IPL is done by volunteers from wellplayed.org (apparently i read this in the IPL thread) You could say they are just as understaffed as NASL is
correct me if I'm wrong but isn't wellplayed the reddit group that did all those invitationals?
and they do have a sizeable staff it looks like from their website and the video they made about who they where
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On April 22 2011 10:35 SlipperySnake wrote:
The only trouble with the league is that the casting is freaking terrible. For me it was just unwatchable, I was able to stand like 5 minutes of Wheat and 30 seconds of TotalBiscuit. They either need to get better casters (probably not the best solution) or get dual casters.
I would tune in to a grunting hobbit casting a match before I ever unmute Gretorp.
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NASL has been amazing in terms of games+ Show Spoiler +Morrow vs TLO and Moon vs Vibe
And just as I said that the stream lags a bit
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On April 22 2011 10:38 Jtn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:37 Doodsmack wrote:On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. You're comparing a game that was recorded a week in advance to live casting. Hate to break it to you this way, but....NASL is not live.
Right, but the casting is recorded while the game is happening, and it's aired only a couple hours later, am I right?
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I don't want to admit it, but I don't particularly like djwheat as a commentator--for some reason, his voice sounds really, really aggravating to me. I agree that he is an awesome caster, hands down--he knows his stuff, keeps the game interesting, and has very good analysis. However, his voice just ruins it for me haha ...it just sounds like he has a runny nose or something, and it almost gives me a headache.
Nonetheless, the tournament is still amazing! I just watch on mute~ So awesome!
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This is how it's done. I like how they're not trying to sell us anything like everyone else. Free HD, flawless stream, bar setting production, mmmmm. Commercials is the way to go to be successful.
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On April 22 2011 10:32 emythrel wrote:
the production is amazing, but they are casting from replays and not live games which helps with quality, the casts are recorded prolly with fraps by the casters and then the production team put on all the sexy gfx.
The NASL has live casters in a studio, players playing live and more analysis, its a completely different ball game production wise to film live in a studio, you simply can't compare the two. IPL is amazing yes, but they aren't working on the same scale as NASL.
Yeah, but because of the way NASL is run, none of those things were really necessary. Casting from live games is cool, but if it's online then does it really make a difference that it's not a live-cast of a replay? The format is basically the same, only they've tightened their time frame at the NASL and given themselves less production and wiggle room. It's still an online tournament, it's still not streamed live, they could literally just be casting from replays and give themselves an additional buffer and nothing would change on the viewer end except they'd have more time to polish their production.
Right now, the NASL has the potential for better games, but the IPL undoubtedly has the better quality production.
I wish the IPL had a strong casting duo though, I am just not a fan of single casting.
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On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys.
When they're on at the same time, and I didn't pay $25 for the NASL VODs, then yes, it is one over the other. And right now, for me, IGN is winning.
I just really have to commend them for putting on such a quality program, absolutely free. What true ballers.
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On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down.
That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show...
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Excellent apart from DJWheat...sorry to say it
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On April 22 2011 10:27 AimForTheBushes wrote:Think alot of you guys are getting blinded by the superior production. All these game today are lopsided and fairly uninteresting matchups. (Aagh? Machine? Vibe?) Can't really get excited for those guys, and it just feels like I'm watching a cast of random games on youtube, only I get pretty graphics in between games. Still better than NASL for me today though, seeing as how I can't even get that stream for some reason. 
That's because it's a test run.
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On April 22 2011 10:40 Meta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. When they're on at the same time, and I didn't pay $25 for the NASL VODs, then yes, it is one over the other. And right now, for me, IGN is winning. I just really have to commend them for putting on such a quality program, absolutely free. What true ballers.
It's "one over the other" in the sense that you can't watch both at the same time. That's obvious. But should we ignore NASL and focus on IGN completely?
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On April 22 2011 10:41 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 10:35 divito wrote:On April 22 2011 10:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Also, it seems like some people in here don't want NASL to succeed. It's not about one over the other, guys. It's not about not wanting NASL to succeed. Everyone wants great matches, features and competition for the hobby that we all enjoy. NASL so far has fell very short of the hype that was around it and what a lot of people were hoping for and expecting. IGN in comparison, for production values and other associated markers, is incredibly above the quality that NASL has put out so far. It just seems like the disparity is great between that which is put out by amateurs trying to be professional, and those that have put in a great deal of time and chose intelligent avenues to go down. That is true, but the thing is, IGN isn't playing these games day by day, IIRC, these games were done 1/2 weeks ago so they had quite a lot of time to prepare... Don't think it is quite fair to compare the production value because NASL only has a day or two to get everything ready for the next show...
Yeah, but once again... WHY?
If they had recorded the first set a week in advance, they could have had a week buffer for each set at the NASL, they could have live-casted from replays even and no one would have noticed anything on the viewer end. They would just have had more time to polish and improve their quality.
If you're not doing an actual in person, live tournament... then why does any of that shit matter?
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