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Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
April 23 2011 05:47 GMT
#861
VODs of Day 2 are up! To find games from previous days, filter by games. This site is still very much a work in progress so the site will improve! Please continue to give us feedback as the site evolves! http://www.ign.com/ipl/videos
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 23 2011 06:05 GMT
#862
On April 23 2011 14:47 Alex.IGN wrote:
VODs of Day 2 are up! To find games from previous days, filter by games. This site is still very much a work in progress so the site will improve! Please continue to give us feedback as the site evolves! http://www.ign.com/ipl/videos


Please, if you're not going to allow downloading the VODs, at least make it possible to load the whole video without having to actually be watching it, because for people with slow connection, you can't watch it directly, and if you leave it loading, it will only load a couple minutes and then stop.

I mean, make it able to press play, start loading, press pause, and then wait untill the whole video is loaded so I can watch without pauses.
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 23 2011 06:12 GMT
#863
On April 23 2011 15:05 Tschis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 14:47 Alex.IGN wrote:
VODs of Day 2 are up! To find games from previous days, filter by games. This site is still very much a work in progress so the site will improve! Please continue to give us feedback as the site evolves! http://www.ign.com/ipl/videos


Please, if you're not going to allow downloading the VODs, at least make it possible to load the whole video without having to actually be watching it, because for people with slow connection, you can't watch it directly, and if you leave it loading, it will only load a couple minutes and then stop.

I mean, make it able to press play, start loading, press pause, and then wait untill the whole video is loaded so I can watch without pauses.


It doesn't do that for you? It loads for me just fine when I pause.
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gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
April 23 2011 06:15 GMT
#864
On April 23 2011 13:51 TheGreenBee wrote:
HD is the worst caster in the mix in my opinion. He just doesn't know what's going on half of the time. The only thing he's good at is act excited.


Ur insane lol. HD is a masters level player, he just lets pain user take the role of analysis because that's how they go. He's a much better player than most commentators lol.
ZeeMan
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia66 Posts
April 23 2011 06:22 GMT
#865
Casting has been pretty good, I had to cringe when TB saw a toss build 4 gates then a nexus, but never mentioned the possibility of the nexus cancel, and only saw it when the 4gate was about to attack.
Zeddicus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States239 Posts
April 23 2011 06:39 GMT
#866
Total Biscuit, I could listen to you cast all day long.
mentallyafk
Profile Joined October 2010
139 Posts
April 23 2011 06:46 GMT
#867
tb is great, but he needs an analytical co-caster
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 07:04:37
April 23 2011 06:48 GMT
#868
On April 23 2011 14:38 Skillz_Man wrote:
Just my thoughts on the casters from a masters level perspective.

TB hypes the battles and I enjoy listening to him, I think he's the only caster that Im feel safe putting on speakers if my family is in the same or adjecent room. Sure he doesn't add too much insight, but he's fun, and well for someone like me... I can analyse the situation, and most of you should be able to two. I feel you guys don't care what game you're watching but rather how good the commentator is. If you watch hockey would you be lost without a commentator too? My advice is learn the game.



hmm it seems your interpretation of the TB criticism is a bit off.. People don't really NEED to be explicitly explained every little nuance of the match...but a those little details should come naturally to a good commentator (why ex-pros make brilliant commentators) so they can highlight what is important thats going on in the game. TB stands out because he either highlights the wrong thing / and if he does get it right it feels really forced and not natural, so he falls back on his annoying antics and observational humor...But yea when people say they want a more knowledgeable caster, its not because people are lost with a bad commentator, a bad commentator is just really, really distracting from the game.
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
April 23 2011 06:52 GMT
#869
On April 23 2011 14:13 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 13:51 TheGreenBee wrote:
HD is the worst caster in the mix in my opinion. He just doesn't know what's going on half of the time. The only thing he's good at is act excited.


You think hd is the least knowledgeable? What are you watching lol


I agree with him. Many times that HD says something, Pain User disagrees and then drops knowledge bombs.

People are saying that TB has no knowledge of the game, but I haven't found that to be the case. He's made plenty of correct predictions, references to pros, and other indicators of a decent understanding of the game. The fact that people find TB's voice annoying or style unappealing isn't the same as him not knowing about the games.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 06:56:10
April 23 2011 06:53 GMT
#870
The casters are pretty good, Dj and the duo Painuser/HD.
The only problem i have with TB is that he is really lacking on the game knowledge department. He doesn't know the current meta game or what's going on with sc2. I don't even know if he still plays the game. Dj always cast games and Pain/HD are master level.
But yeh you really don't need to have a diploma to know the game or need a lot to cast games. I think you just need the current popular strat pros/players are doing and of course information of each player.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
April 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#871
On April 23 2011 13:11 gamecrazy wrote:
IPL has certainly been very impressively executed. The entertainment value, stream quality is excellent. I feel like there wasn't very much transparency with the community on how IPL would select players/etc. However, that aside, its a great thing to watch.


This is kind of what bothers me. A lot of people are being seduced by the IPL's production value, but they haven't demonstrated anything that makes me think that are running anything but a cool invitational with fun graphics.


Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 07:05:42
April 23 2011 06:59 GMT
#872
On April 23 2011 15:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 14:13 Tabbris wrote:
On April 23 2011 13:51 TheGreenBee wrote:
HD is the worst caster in the mix in my opinion. He just doesn't know what's going on half of the time. The only thing he's good at is act excited.


You think hd is the least knowledgeable? What are you watching lol


I agree with him. Many times that HD says something, Pain User disagrees and then drops knowledge bombs.

People are saying that TB has no knowledge of the game, but I haven't found that to be the case. He's made plenty of correct predictions, references to pros, and other indicators of a decent understanding of the game. The fact that people find TB's voice annoying or style unappealing isn't the same as him not knowing about the games.




While I agree with everything you say... I do think you are just lowering the bar by which you judge TB as knowledgeable. Does he know nothing about the game? of course not, you are right. But does he know as much as a good commentator should for a premier starcraft league? I do not believe so. So yea he does get most of the general stuff right. So saying he knows nothing and stuff is indeed wrong. But I wouldn't dismiss the fact that he definitely has a lot to learn before a lot of people take him seriously...
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 07:13:01
April 23 2011 07:10 GMT
#873
On April 23 2011 13:11 gamecrazy wrote:
IPL has certainly been very impressively executed. The entertainment value, stream quality is excellent. I feel like there wasn't very much transparency with the community on how IPL would select players/etc. However, that aside, its a great thing to watch.


Thanks for your positive comments! Your comment about transparency confuses me though, as I feel like it's been a pretty much 'ask me anything' situation with TL and we've gone to great lengths to be as transparent as possible. There was a ton of talk about players at the outset of the announcement, but not lately because it's been covered already.

Further, I posted the following on the main announcement post:

"Q: Why was player <X> or <Y> not involved with this?

A: Unfortunately with a set of 16 players, we had to make hard choices and decisions about who we extended invites to. Some popular players did have conflicts with the scheduling or did not want to participate, and there was not much we could do that about. We feel like we have a strong range of players that have different play styles and will provide entertaining matches. We hope to see the popular players we weren't able to extend an invitation to excel in the IPL 2 qualifiers and participate next season!"

To clarify, we based our invites mostly based on 1) availability 2) community awareness 3) viewership potential 4) skill level and 5) past tournament results, in no particular order. If there's ever something people feel confused about, just ask, or look around. I don't want a false impression that we're not being transparent starting to circulate.

On April 23 2011 15:56 Defacer wrote:
This is kind of what bothers me. A lot of people are being seduced by the IPL's production value, but they haven't demonstrated anything that makes me think that are running anything but a cool invitational with fun graphics.


I'm not actually sure what you mean by this. Demonstrate that we're going to be sticking around, or what exactly is meant? If you can clarify what you mean I will do what I can to put your mind at ease.
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 23 2011 07:11 GMT
#874
On April 22 2011 10:17 Whiplash wrote:
I tuned in to watch it and was instantly impressed. The production quality is INCREDIBLE. This is what the NASL should have been.

I echo this sentiment strongly.

The other thing I have to mention is that DjWheat is actually a really good solo caster, I've never seen him do it before but he can handle it quite well.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
April 23 2011 07:14 GMT
#875
I loved the stream, I watched on the 1080p and not once did it crash or jutter along like other streams and I am in Australia which makes it even more epic that I can watch it in HD smoothly. Seriously, the best stream I ever watched. The audio was crystal clear and they had some fantastic casters on there as well. Cannot wait till tomorrow to watch it again. It was seriously fantastic.

Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
April 23 2011 07:15 GMT
#876
I like it but yeah they should have dual commentators DJ wheat gets lonely

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
April 23 2011 08:21 GMT
#877
On April 23 2011 15:59 Zeri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 15:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 23 2011 14:13 Tabbris wrote:
On April 23 2011 13:51 TheGreenBee wrote:
HD is the worst caster in the mix in my opinion. He just doesn't know what's going on half of the time. The only thing he's good at is act excited.


You think hd is the least knowledgeable? What are you watching lol


I agree with him. Many times that HD says something, Pain User disagrees and then drops knowledge bombs.

People are saying that TB has no knowledge of the game, but I haven't found that to be the case. He's made plenty of correct predictions, references to pros, and other indicators of a decent understanding of the game. The fact that people find TB's voice annoying or style unappealing isn't the same as him not knowing about the games.




While I agree with everything you say... I do think you are just lowering the bar by which you judge TB as knowledgeable. Does he know nothing about the game? of course not, you are right. But does he know as much as a good commentator should for a premier starcraft league? I do not believe so. So yea he does get most of the general stuff right. So saying he knows nothing and stuff is indeed wrong. But I wouldn't dismiss the fact that he definitely has a lot to learn before a lot of people take him seriously...


Fair enough. He certainly has a long way to go before he becomes the knowledge equivalent of a Day[9], Tasteless, or Artosis!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 08:48:18
April 23 2011 08:47 GMT
#878
Obviously the production is top notch and up to par with GSL and Dreamhack Invitational. That's like common knowledge by now. Since IGN is just doing a test run in a whole different format I feel there's no point in comparing anything beyond the games, stream and layout.

Speaking of games, last night's set of games was even better than the first and sported more back and forth action and innovative play. Of course, that's nothing IGN can control but it's always a plus when the games turn out to be amazing as well.

First time hearing the HD/PainUser combo and they've got some great synergy going there. Wheat and TB are obviously good too and perform well as solo casters. The amount of analysis they can provide are sufficient and balanced out by their in-your-face entertainment value. I kind of feel that if you possess more knowledge than them, you don't need it spelled out for you and can enjoy them for the excitement. And in the case you know less about the game, they can still give some decent pointers and alert you of the most essential things. Although, if you care little for entertainment and watch for learning and analysis, then you're probably in the wrong place.


Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
April 23 2011 10:28 GMT
#879
I was gonna watch some vods today but in the middle of vod it freezes and I get stuck in loading thing.Anyone else have same problem?
PS:It was working fine until today.
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 10:42:46
April 23 2011 10:41 GMT
#880
yeah dual casting would be mo fun.. and also i feel its a bit of a shame there are no EU/KOR players but i suppose we already have nasl and tsl for cross realm tournaments..
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