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Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
April 23 2011 04:19 GMT
#841
For me it's going to come down to the players actually playing on that day. For example, tomorrow's IPL lineup/players aren't my favourite, so I'm going to watch MC and Select play tomorrow in the NASL. I'm going to give the NASL $25 just because I can, no I'm not going to watch all the VOD's, I might even watch IPL more than NASL, but the only way for e-sports to grow is for the community contribute. It can't always be free TSL, free IPL, free showmatches forever.
Leoj
Profile Joined January 2010
United States396 Posts
April 23 2011 04:22 GMT
#842
On April 23 2011 13:19 Ruyguy wrote:
For me it's going to come down to the players actually playing on that day. For example, tomorrow's IPL lineup/players aren't my favourite, so I'm going to watch MC and Select play tomorrow in the NASL. I'm going to give the NASL $25 just because I can, no I'm not going to watch all the VOD's, I might even watch IPL more than NASL, but the only way for e-sports to grow is for the community contribute. It can't always be free TSL, free IPL, free showmatches forever.


1. Get tons of viewers for free events
2. Show sponsors advertising opportunity
3. ???
4. Free event forever and make money for org running it
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
April 23 2011 04:22 GMT
#843
On April 23 2011 13:17 radiumz0rz wrote:
I have to say that while the production value is good, I cannot see single casting with DJ Wheat, catspajamas or totalbiscuit to be superior to the NASL.


I would completely agree. It's almost like watching a youtube channel covering a double elim tournament.

T.BonePickens
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States50 Posts
April 23 2011 04:24 GMT
#844
I personally love production of the IGN league. I love the art work and the animations after each win, it adds a nice flare to it. I also find the Korean name introduction of each player to be hilarious. And the end game stats is something that I find interesting.

The only thing I don't like about it, is that it really does not hype the players. It gives very little back story to each person. I feel that is where the NASL is doing better then the IGN. but overall I was extremely pleased with the IGN production

P.S
I prefer dual casters. DJ wheat and Total Biscuit can only be so entertaining solo for so long.
All Greatness begins Small
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46418 Posts
April 23 2011 04:27 GMT
#845
Day 2 was really really good as well!

No big problems, although one game (second game of iNcontroL's, with HD/ PU casting, iirc) wasn't synced properly.

But that was it. Very impressive overall
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Hyst3ria
Profile Joined December 2007
United States167 Posts
April 23 2011 04:28 GMT
#846
Can't believe people are using this thread to rip into the NASL. That's just dumb and doesn't help anyone.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
April 23 2011 04:28 GMT
#847
On April 23 2011 13:19 Ruyguy wrote:
For me it's going to come down to the players actually playing on that day. For example, tomorrow's IPL lineup/players aren't my favourite, so I'm going to watch MC and Select play tomorrow in the NASL. I'm going to give the NASL $25 just because I can, no I'm not going to watch all the VOD's, I might even watch IPL more than NASL, but the only way for e-sports to grow is for the community contribute. It can't always be free TSL, free IPL, free showmatches forever.


yeah i mean no other organization is able to survive off of giving their viewer base free content....
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
April 23 2011 04:29 GMT
#848
Hmmm I have to agree, I love the casters and their ability in the field, but I think dual casting is the way to go in a tournament setting. Just group up some of the casters and it should be all good, shouldn't it be?
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Darkzler
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden58 Posts
April 23 2011 04:36 GMT
#849
I'd say the IGN tournament was awesome! Great players, very nice quality and exceptional casters!
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Scarmath
Profile Joined August 2010
United States60 Posts
April 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#850
On April 23 2011 13:29 EchelonTee wrote:
Hmmm I have to agree, I love the casters and their ability in the field, but I think dual casting is the way to go in a tournament setting. Just group up some of the casters and it should be all good, shouldn't it be?


Because it's casted from a replay, it introduces a synchronization problem.
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gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
April 23 2011 04:40 GMT
#851
Nice job. HD was great at casting. Really didn't like catzpj
dmillz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada270 Posts
April 23 2011 04:43 GMT
#852
Just watched my first VoD, very nice quality, loved the stats at the end and the big "Win" overlay with the player name.
iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
April 23 2011 04:48 GMT
#853
Since this season is a "test run" I would assume that means you are trying out a variety of casters. For the more finished product I believe you should stick with a mix between painuser, HD, and DJ wheat. The other ones are hard on the ears and have little to no game knowledge.
TheGreenBee
Profile Joined February 2011
64 Posts
April 23 2011 04:51 GMT
#854
HD is the worst caster in the mix in my opinion. He just doesn't know what's going on half of the time. The only thing he's good at is act excited.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 23 2011 05:10 GMT
#855
I just clicked on Idra vs Drewbie link, and I got loaded the Idra vs Fenix game.

So there's some kind of mistake there.

Also, the way the stream works is making it impossible for me to watch the games. My net isn't good enough to watch live, and I can't download the VODs, nor I can let it loading because it'll only load a couple minutes and then stop. It needs a constant stream in order to load everything, and as I said, my net isn't good enough.

I know it's not their fault my net sux, but I'm just saying people with bad internet connection won't be able to watch the games. That's sad.
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
April 23 2011 05:13 GMT
#856
On April 23 2011 13:51 TheGreenBee wrote:
HD is the worst caster in the mix in my opinion. He just doesn't know what's going on half of the time. The only thing he's good at is act excited.


You think hd is the least knowledgeable? What are you watching lol
edward.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
47 Posts
April 23 2011 05:19 GMT
#857
On April 23 2011 13:24 T.BonePickens wrote:
I personally love production of the IGN league. I love the art work and the animations after each win, it adds a nice flare to it. I also find the Korean name introduction of each player to be hilarious. And the end game stats is something that I find interesting.

The only thing I don't like about it, is that it really does not hype the players. It gives very little back story to each person. I feel that is where the NASL is doing better then the IGN. but overall I was extremely pleased with the IGN production

P.S
I prefer dual casters. DJ wheat and Total Biscuit can only be so entertaining solo for so long.


Thanks for your comments! Did you get a chance to check out the in-depth interviews we had with players? You can find them on the videos page @ www.ign.com/ipl
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 23 2011 05:29 GMT
#858
My only recommendation is more PainUser!
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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 23 2011 05:33 GMT
#859
I wish to hear anything about the current state of the Stream for bad internet connection users ={
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 23 2011 05:38 GMT
#860
Just my thoughts on the casters from a masters level perspective.

TB hypes the battles and I enjoy listening to him, I think he's the only caster that Im feel safe putting on speakers if my family is in the same or adjecent room. Sure he doesn't add too much insight, but he's fun, and well for someone like me... I can analyse the situation, and most of you should be able to two. I feel you guys don't care what game you're watching but rather how good the commentator is. If you watch hockey would you be lost without a commentator too? My advice is learn the game.

Djwheat - I really really dislike his solo casting. Very often he doesn't know what he's talking about but he's so confident with what he says. Maybe to the casual person it sounds right but when he's saying how someone is ahead, or how he needs to get this... When clearly the player is just stalling for broodlords is bleh. He can do play by play, but his analysis is really far from correct, and it just bugs me when someone is so confident about wrong things constantly - I think djwheat needs to play the game more or just cast with two people.

The Painuser with HD? was a good commentary. They did a solid job, I have no complaints. There's nothing that really stood out, but nothing that was bad , at all... Which alone mKes them better than 95% of the casters. I did like Painusers input even though he was keeping it pretty low level for the casual viewers, they didn't miss anything and I enjoyed the cast.

I haven't payed for the GSL or MLG, or even NASL... But if these guys start doing PPV at a reasonable price I will definitely buy because they offered quality, preparation, and just a smooth stream overall. Definitely hoping other tourneys take the same path as this one.... Especially NASL. Well done guys, surely you deserve more than the 12k viewers you had the last two days!
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