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cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 12:46:21
April 22 2011 12:45 GMT
#621
Love the league and the casters. They offer HD vods for free unlike some people, and in my opinion, their generosity will result in a much more popular league than NASL. The only weak part about this league is that they don't have the quality of players that NASL has, but I'm sure that next season will be much more epic.
THE ANSWER IS 288
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 12:51:31
April 22 2011 12:48 GMT
#622
I watched the vods of IdrA vs. Fenix just now. Is this going to stay free? If it is, there is no reason to watch anything else. GSL + IPL will keep me busy and entertained, I can say these two are the current go to tournaments to watch. On an unrelated note, TB seems to have gotten better casting. At least he had some energy while casting. I am looking forward to more. (especially in the department of 'higher quality' of players)
HyperLimen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 12:51:11
April 22 2011 12:50 GMT
#623
I've watched Sheth Axslav and Idra Fenix so far and its pretty awesome. I just wish there was the usual 2 casters per match, but TotalBiscuit and Wheat did great
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Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
April 22 2011 12:53 GMT
#624
what i enjoyed the most is actually (by far) the overall design
the animations intros and those kind of things
like the short animation if someone wins and the statistics after the match
it just makes the whole thing soooo much more professional
"If you can chill....chill!"
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
April 22 2011 12:53 GMT
#625
I think the VODs should allow you to jump between the different games in the set you are watching. If you click out of the video you have to re-watch or skip the first game. Everything else with the website layout is fantastic!
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
April 22 2011 12:53 GMT
#626
TotalBiscuit <3<3<3
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
April 22 2011 12:56 GMT
#627
Theres really nothing much that i dislike about IPL, it's great so far and i'm really impressed by how you can filter the vods by players/race/commentators. The only thing i would like is perhaps dual commentaries, would make it pretty much perfect.
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
April 22 2011 12:58 GMT
#628
Wow there are even HD vods for free :O
DocHoliday
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 13:08:17
April 22 2011 13:00 GMT
#629
I prefer the NASL, at least for now.

I understand the noob friendly approach of IPL and I like them for that. As was said on State of the Game it's important to bring new people onboard. And I think IPL is taking the right approach to accomplish that goal. They still should use two commentators in my opinion which I think most people prefer (I could be wrong).

The NASL on the other hand does not take that noob friendly approach, and that is what I prefer to see. For now they have the better players (which might be the most important thing) and commentators whose style just suits me better. NASL might be harder to watch for new viewers, but I think that is a good thing. Imagine watching a soccer tournament where the commentator explains the rules every single game. It would be soooooo annoying. So I think for experienced viewers the NASL for now is better. Yes they have audio problems and stuff, but that are problems that are clearly defined and can (and I think will) definately will be solved.

IPL and NASL in my eyes don't totally overlap in what they are trying to do or which type of viewer they are trying to reach. Grossly oversimplified, IPL is more for noobs, NASL more for the experienced viewer, but everyone can watch and enjoy both. So saying one in general is better than the other is unfair in my opinion. Some prefer NASL, some prefer IPL and that is as it should be.

I didn't say much about stream quality because in my opinion that is the least important criteria. Well as long as both streams are above a certain standard. In the end the quality and substance of what is shown on that stream is the deciding factor.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 22 2011 13:00 GMT
#630
On April 22 2011 21:56 RedHelix wrote:
Theres really nothing much that i dislike about IPL, it's great so far and i'm really impressed by how you can filter the vods by players/race/commentators. The only thing i would like is perhaps dual commentaries, would make it pretty much perfect.


Just to reiterate, dual same-room commentators is definitely a very high priority for Season 2, especially when appealing to the Teamliquid demographic.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
April 22 2011 13:01 GMT
#631
goddamnit i missed it yesterday, totally forgot, but afaik the VODs are for free, so iam gonna check em out asap
Psycosquirrel
Profile Joined October 2008
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 13:12:55
April 22 2011 13:03 GMT
#632
I've been a little frustrated by the VOD system. After watching the NASL vods where you can resize the window as much as you want, this fixed size massive window is frustrating. And whenever I try to turn on HD, it tries to open the video in the frame the video is already in, and everything on the corners gets cut off. Id like to see that get improved.

Gotta love TB though. Never have understood the hate for the casters on youtube. Also like the screen they show at the end of each game.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
April 22 2011 13:07 GMT
#633
Yeah maybe I'm stupid but I can't figure out their VOD system either.

Clicked on a match: VOD player loaded
Clicked on HD: VOD player loaded some website inside the VOD player with another VOD player inside it (with another ad)
Watched game 1: VOD player sat there spinning and I had no idea how to get to game 2.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 22 2011 13:08 GMT
#634
Seems like I'll have to check this out one night and stay up for it !
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flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
April 22 2011 13:10 GMT
#635
Production quality of IGN was really top-tier. I will be watching this and GSL. NASL is too amateurish for my taste. Two commentators are better than 1, but seeing as this will be put on priority I'm sure the IGN league will grow to become even better
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 13:15:37
April 22 2011 13:14 GMT
#636
No matter how good the overall production is, you can't really get around the fact that the playerbase/competition in IPL is weak and there are only 3-4 players with a remotely legitimate shot at winning the thing, something you can't say for either the TSL or the NASL, but that's the byproduct of limiting yourself to the NA server.
DocHoliday
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany25 Posts
April 22 2011 13:16 GMT
#637
On April 22 2011 22:10 flipstar wrote:
Production quality of IGN was really top-tier. I will be watching this and GSL. NASL is too amateurish for my taste. Two commentators are better than 1, but seeing as this will be put on priority I'm sure the IGN league will grow to become even better


Can you explain a bit what you mean by "too amateurish"? The stream / audio problems? Because in everything else I think the NASL is very professional.
Psycosquirrel
Profile Joined October 2008
United States161 Posts
April 22 2011 13:16 GMT
#638
On April 22 2011 22:07 R1CH wrote:
Yeah maybe I'm stupid but I can't figure out their VOD system either.

Clicked on a match: VOD player loaded
Clicked on HD: VOD player loaded some website inside the VOD player with another VOD player inside it (with another ad)
Watched game 1: VOD player sat there spinning and I had no idea how to get to game 2.


Judging by comments in the LR thread, no, we're not the only ones. They're really frustrating to navigate. Only way I could get to work was to

1. http://www.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/tournaments/best-of-the-west, and click on desired match
2. Open game one
3. Turn on HD
4. Game 2 should show up in the related videos section of the new page that pops up.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 22 2011 13:17 GMT
#639
On April 22 2011 22:14 Asshat wrote:
No matter how good the overall production is, you can't really get around the fact that the playerbase/competition in IPL is weak and there are only 3-4 players with a remotely legitimate shot at winning the thing, something you can't say for either the TSL or the NASL, but that's the byproduct of limiting yourself to the NA server.


IGN have said Season 1 should be viewed as their Clash of the Titans, a warmup and opportunity to test concepts for Season 2. IPL is not a long tournament and work on Season 2 has already begun.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
SpectralFremen
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia386 Posts
April 22 2011 13:17 GMT
#640
On April 22 2011 20:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 19:26 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 22 2011 18:22 Escapist wrote:
-SNIP-
- Good casting by all casters, but no proper background provided by any of them on who the players are.

-SNIP-

This is so true. If casters would spend some time introducing players during the matches it would make the whole thing so much better (similar to how it is done during football broadcasts or at least how tastosis do it).
Just do a bit of research about them and their play and results and present them in a way that they seem more human and alive. If we ever want to have sc2 grow the game needs to be as much about the competitors as the game itself. The Dreamhack "White-Ra, he cares" was a perfect example of that.
When people watch Barcelona they watch it for the players as much for the results and the game on the field. I think Beckham showed us games are more then just about the game.


This an odd criticism, considering I did go and research the players and provide information about play-style, team affiliation and recent tournament performance. It is not as if it was not done, I think you just wanted more than was given. Which is cool, that's totally doable and there's nothing stopping us doing more research and providing more colour if that's what people want. It was there though, just perhaps not enough of it.


Hey Mate, you did an excellent job on the Vods I've heard. You and the whole production crew should be proud of what you've produced
"And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere"
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