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holynorth
United States590 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:11 ReaperX wrote: Some people really are inconsiderate and immature. Unbelievable. Why am I inconsiderate or immature again? Because I am have a difficult time understanding her? Can't wait to see who we have to replace her. Maybe we will get Doa with Artosis/Tasteless for a little bit. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:22 NovaTheFeared wrote: Considering the community reaction, I would say that is most unlikely. GOM had to start locking every thread with the word Kelly in it because the user base was not pleased and it was swamping their forum with criticism. Agreed. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
She put in a good effort, seemed to do well under pressure and was quite motivated, but the bottom line is, she was hard to understand and came off as not very knowledgeable about the game in a lot of cases. It has literally nothing to do with her gender or race. Some people just aren't suited for certain things no matter how much effort they put in or how nice they are. I don't agree with the people blatantly flaming her and being completely immature about the entire thing, obviously it's wrong to do that. But I also think that the reaction of the people trying to defend her is almost just as bad, trying to tell people with calm, sensible opinions that they're wrong for having an opinion just because it's actually negative for once. People are getting attacked in this thread for having a negative opinion about her, by people who seem to be defending her just for the sake of defending. I hope she continues to cast online as she previously was because there's obviously people who enjoy her casting as well, and when there is a choice in what casters to pick from in an environment like the internet then there's no reason to complain. But on a grand stage like GOM where professionalism is striven for, unfortunately there are better casters to hire. I wish her luck in her future work and whatever else she does. | ||
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
Brace yourself if you think this is immature and unpolite lol. | ||
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mgl0x9
United States256 Posts
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
It's the GSL goddamn it, its not that I don't think kelly one day could be a awesome caster if she puts her heart to it, but she should start with some smaller tourneys and contribute to the community for a few years. I mean Artosis and Tasteless basicly gave their heart and lives to startcraft for over a decade now, and I think it will be hard to find someone who can be compared and tolerated as a help for them. | ||
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
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Selith
United States238 Posts
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Buff345
United States323 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:25 B.I.G. wrote: the way some people treated her really pissed me off. i hope kelly returns because at least it was a bit less of a saucage fest with her. and on top of that, if gom constantly keeps switching casters you'll never get a duo like tastosis because people cant grow used to them... They aren't switching forever. Only until they find the perfect 2. Then they'll cast forever. And ever. | ||
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Diader
United States232 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:05 jayt88 wrote: By people he meant just you, because you are alone in being devoid of logic. The job is meant for people fluent in English, hence you have Artosis and Tasteless (both fluent in English). Pointing out that it is hosted in a non-English speaking country does not even matter, are you saying you can condone pathetic English commentators for the China Olympics or other international events not held in an English speaking country? People are not whining, they are making a point that she is bad or at least not up to par for the job. The criticisms are constant because the problem is constant, if she got better of course they would die down (some trolls will still continue). Last thing, accent is only part of the problem, her diction and pronunciation, failure to connect with co-caster and also occasional lack of knowledge (this factor is not a big issue in my opinion) are majority of the issues that have been pointed out. So don't just choose what you think you can refute and make a fool of yourself. For the record, Kelly IS fluent in English. She just has a Singaporean accent. Like how people in England speak fluent English with a British accent, etc. That makes me wonder, would there be this kind of a backlash to a British caster? Australian? New Yorker? | ||
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AmaZing
Nepal299 Posts
I am hoping we get to see him soon | ||
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Maskedsatyr
Singapore1245 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:34 Selith wrote: Kelly's accent / pronunciation is understandable for the most part (even "funny" pronunciation of words are clearly understandable), but when she gets excited, I can't understand what she is saying. It all sounds like a blur, if you know what I mean. If she can fix that, then there isn't really much left to do other than to develop 'caster sense', if you will, of SC2. This is true at least for me because I'm from the same country but why are we settling for understandable English in the top sc2 league? | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:35 Buff345 wrote: The SC2 community is absolute shit. I've heard that the BW community was awesome and that the team liquid website was soo cool and everyone was so nice. That's just not true. No point in even being on here anymore. Oh well, at least it's an easy way to find streams. Go cry more, some people pay for those streams this is a capitalistic nation we pay for what we want. Its obvious that a very large percentage of people (or just multiple same account posters) did not like/want her at all. For everyone who just says we are all shit, well the truth it hurts but i'm more than happy to keep cyling through casters till GOM finds one that works. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:37 Diader wrote: For the record, Kelly IS fluent in English. She just has a Singaporean accent. Like how people in England speak fluent English with a British accent, etc. That makes me wonder, would there be this kind of a backlash to a British caster? Australian? New Yorker? It depends on how easily understandable it is. It doesn't matter what type of accent it is. Stop trying to call people out on being racist just for having a negative opinion about her. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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Slago
Canada726 Posts
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RoseTempest
Canada196 Posts
On March 10 2011 04:48 rysecake wrote: You're an asshole. People like you made her leave/get fired (whatever happened). This community has been absolute garbage to her. I honestly feel sorry for Kelly. What, people cant express their opinions? It's like any real-life job. You get hired, there's a probationary period where you could get kicked based on your performance, and you see what happens. What happened was that there was an enormous outrage coming from the foreign viewers (not just native english speakers, her accent makes it harder for those from europe/anyone not from singapore to understand), which hopefully led GOM to reconsider their decision. Kelly is obviously an enthusiastic and happy individual, which isn't why they got rid of her, it's because she doesn't fit the job. It's akin to having a quadriplegic applying to a job as a firefighter. The heart and the enthusiasm isn't the issue, its the fact that they can't deliver. | ||
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Khaymus
United States750 Posts
The internet is a shitty place. People act like complete fucks because they can get away with it. Starcraft 1 community was great because we all loved something that very few people did...we all GOT IT. We understood what we loved was a beautiful thing...and didn't bitch about everything. Starcraft 2 has made this game very very popular...and with popularity comes the internet. People on the internet are complete fucks which in turn make anything that is popular have a community of fucks. Screw you internet...another reason to hate you on a daily basis. So glad all of my hobbies have to revolve around this cess pool. | ||
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