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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 09 2011 23:21 GMT
#121
On February 10 2011 02:40 Frack wrote:
a ridiculous question that affects no-one


Ya I agree with this. I don't see why so many people take pride in their region being a better or worse region for SC2. It's all about the individual players, not the countries/continents they are from.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
February 09 2011 23:34 GMT
#122
I'd say you won't feel a diffference unless you are a pro since you simply get matched against equally skilled players. Also the very best players from both servers don't generally have a different skill-level.
BUT EU has no doubt many more players on the top level. So if you would make tournaments with 50% of the best EU players and 50% of the best NA players, it'd be more likely that a EU player wins.

I also agree that Canada>US , and that EU is better in every computer game that I can think of.
I believe that NA is better in console games and they play a lot more console tho?!
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Gool
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina204 Posts
February 09 2011 23:36 GMT
#123
Huk just got 4k points on EU!
Sonictonic
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 23:37:29
February 09 2011 23:36 GMT
#124
Not this shit again, it was enough with the "LOL US BGS BETTER THEN EU LOL BG9 BEST LOL" in WoW.

Its just people trying to wax their epeens by arbitrary saying that the serverpool they play on is harder.

This eyesore of a thread should be closed, all it will do is fuel US vs EU tardness.
Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
February 09 2011 23:53 GMT
#125
From what I've heard I think EU is better, but NA has better protosses?
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Subtlety
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada113 Posts
February 10 2011 01:26 GMT
#126
Unless you are one of the few players in the top 1%, one server being better than the other doesn't mean shit.

The skill level of the Low masters and Diamond below, is roughly the same on both servers, odds are you're going to need to defend some form of all-in.

Not to mention there are alot of EU and NA players that play on both servers, and they are usually in the top on those servers.
scph
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 02:11:29
February 10 2011 02:06 GMT
#127
Ever consider the fact that the cultures of the countries affect the distribution of the better players?

Here's a psychological answer. People play games for different reasons. Americans, imo, are more laid back and don't expect to complete tasks at the highest level unless they have a motive to. There are less competitive players in the pool, which results in a seemingly lower level of competition in the region overall. However, that doesn't mean Americans are inferior, there are a number of excellent American players, even if there are not as many as, say, in Korea.

In contrast, Korean or Asian cultures in general, are significantly different. When an individual attempts something, they are expected to excel in it or be shameful for their failures. This refusal to be less than competent is a motive that often results in the individual's success, hence, why Koreans are so good at the game.

Believing otherwise, for example, that one region just sucks more than the other (most of the comments in here are saying exactly so; "region A" > "region B"), simply shows your ignorance to the cultures of different people in the world and how they view life.

In short, the regions don't matter, you may play against harder opponents in plat in KR who would be Diamond in NA, but if you still lose in the NA server, losing is losing. The only valid argument one can make is that the player competency in ranking is different across all regions.
Sigmur
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland497 Posts
February 10 2011 02:19 GMT
#128
On February 10 2011 08:53 Eeeegor wrote:
From what I've heard I think EU is better, but NA has better protosses?

Dude,I don't want to flame but I can name many awesome EU tosses: WhiteRa,Nani,Mana,Hasu,Adelscott,
NA:Kiwikaki, Incontrol and.. help me. Huk is Korean for me tho ;P
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 10 2011 02:20 GMT
#129
On February 10 2011 11:19 Sigmur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 08:53 Eeeegor wrote:
From what I've heard I think EU is better, but NA has better protosses?

Dude,I don't want to flame but I can name many awesome EU tosses: WhiteRa,Nani,Mana,Hasu,Adelscott,
NA:Kiwikaki, Incontrol and.. help me. Huk is Korean for me tho ;P

You forgot the coolest toss from EU: Socke.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
February 10 2011 02:27 GMT
#130
On February 10 2011 11:19 Sigmur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 08:53 Eeeegor wrote:
From what I've heard I think EU is better, but NA has better protosses?

Dude,I don't want to flame but I can name many awesome EU tosses: WhiteRa,Nani,Mana,Hasu,Adelscott,
NA:Kiwikaki, Incontrol and.. help me. Huk is Korean for me tho ;P


Kiwikaki is on the EU ladder.
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Touch
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada475 Posts
February 10 2011 02:46 GMT
#131
On February 10 2011 04:13 Stratus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 03:02 ccHaZaRd wrote:
canada carries america, usa really need to step it up :D


i apologize i should've said NA is 2 mainly usa and canada.

this is just as ignorant sir so gg.

But think about it 2 countries competing on a ladder compared to 40 you would think it would be a lil more competitive and therefore harder.
Nah, we're carrying you. A simple thank you would suffice.
Sieg
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
February 10 2011 02:47 GMT
#132
EU > NA
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
February 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#133
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TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 05:25:39
February 10 2011 05:24 GMT
#134
and which country actually developed the game......These discussions are not positive for the community and I'm surprised this thread didn't get closed. You can skew the stats whichever way you like but EU = NA neither is any "better". And really who cares, just because you think that there are more talented players on your server doesnt make you any better.
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byce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States98 Posts
February 10 2011 05:28 GMT
#135
I am proud of my fellow Americans for not voting in this poll!
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
February 10 2011 06:07 GMT
#136
How would most people know this?

Most people do not have two accounts, and thus your poll is ridiculously, horribly skewed and inaccurate.
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 10 2011 06:43 GMT
#137
On February 10 2011 14:28 byce wrote:
I am proud of my fellow Americans for not voting in this poll!


Why? Sure it's kind of a silly thing but if you feel strongly one way or another you should vote and post about it. I'm an American that's mid-Master's on both servers and feel EU is little bit tougher, so I voted for EU. It's not like it's worlds harder and the top level players on both servers are pretty much the same skill level, but I'd say for my level of play it was a little harder to get that high on EU.
Sigmur
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland497 Posts
February 11 2011 16:48 GMT
#138
Okay, I think this puts an end to this argument :D

http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/318332-HuK_pretty_sure_Im_the_best_player_here It spoils Huks group at Assembly so watch out!
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
February 11 2011 16:51 GMT
#139
since we know korea is the strongest, that means less points = better so NA is better. simple.
Marines > everything
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#140
We typically tell it like it is and its universally known that most of us NA top200 would like a EU account to practice on. Save for Select the ladder isn't really competitive.
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