all this thread is gonna do is get EU and NA people to bash eachother saying their server is better

however i think at the top level the top americans (huk idra included) can play fine vs the top europeans, i just think that there is a larger amount of top euros atm... making the EU server more difficult

SDream

Brazil896 Posts

February 09 2011 20:47 GMT

#102

The 4k point guys on diamond back at the time was only another proof of divisions offsets, nothing else.

limonovich

England226 Posts

February 09 2011 21:05 GMT

#103

probably eu, due to the aforementioned na console dominance. even if blizz let us see mmr, we still wont know for sure until eu can play na and we see the rankings.

FeyFey

Germany10114 Posts

February 09 2011 21:06 GMT

#104

gathering troll threads are always cool to read hehe. voted eu btw because it will be prolly a while that way, though i hate it being that way. european only servers/communitys are filled with so much more hate when it comes to competition its not even funny anymore.

lkjewq

United States132 Posts

February 09 2011 21:10 GMT

#105

Theoretically speaking... the only way to gain points is by beating more skilled opponents or winning more games than you lose against equally skilled opponents or lesser skilled opponents and since the EU ladder has the highest peaking players, this basically means the people at the top of the EU ladder absolutely demolish the people below them. Whereas the people at the top of the US ladder don't absolutely demolish the people below them as much or they would have a giant gap in points as well.

Neivler

Norway911 Posts

February 09 2011 21:11 GMT

#106

Europe, fiiightiiiing!

I was about to start my own thread on this topic but got beat to it. I thought the EU server was better, but never got it stated by so many up until now. k, thx

bLuR

Canada625 Posts

February 09 2011 21:13 GMT

#107

i play on both ladders, if EU is harder, its not by much. Dunno why everyone from europe is so obsessed with the idea that they MUST be second best lol

Nimic

Norway1360 Posts

February 09 2011 21:15 GMT

#108

On February 10 2011 06:13 bLuR wrote:
i play on both ladders, if EU is harder, its not by much. Dunno why everyone from europe is so obsessed with the idea that they MUST be second best lol

To be fair, this whole discussion was started because an American made the opposite claim in the HuK thread.

I am European, so I'm obviously biased, but it just seems there are more top level players on EU, if not exactly better top level players. And it's impossible to say if it would make any different for me personally, since I'm so far off the top. Odds are I'd be pretty much exactly where I am on the EU server.

phisku

Belgium864 Posts

February 09 2011 21:15 GMT

#109

I think there is more Top player in EU but the general level is the same for both na and eu

Tef

Sweden443 Posts

February 09 2011 21:30 GMT

#110

I think the scene would benefit from rivalry between the continents, so I vote Europe ;-]

Geovu

Estonia1344 Posts

February 09 2011 21:31 GMT

#111

What I got from this thread is basically that, per capita, is that the United States of America has terrible players and everywhere else (Including Canada) is fine.

Figures.

hiyo_bye

United States737 Posts

February 09 2011 21:42 GMT

#112

I voted for NA, because I feel like the poll is biased considering so many people who have posted so far are from the EU.

I need to skew the results in the opposite direction

ChickenLips

2912 Posts

February 09 2011 22:00 GMT

#113

On February 10 2011 05:43 RyanRushia wrote:
all this thread is gonna do is get EU and NA people to bash eachother saying their server is better

however i think at the top level the top americans (huk idra included) can play fine vs the top europeans, i just think that there is a larger amount of top euros atm... making the EU server more difficult

Well everyone seems to pretty much agree that EU > NA

And you cant really count IdrA and HuK as players pertaining to the NA ladder, both play KR ladder full time and have no intentions to return to NA any time soon.

I don't think there is a big difference between the 2 servers, except at the highest level where it is quite ridiculous (seeing as how almost no top NA player ladders)

Deckkie

Netherlands1595 Posts

February 09 2011 22:41 GMT

#114

If you look at sc2ranks you will see that europe is dominatingpoint wise. This could imply several tings.
1. Europe has more high level players
2. There are a few very good players in europe winning a lot of matches just because the level of the plaers just below them are way worse.
3. surely there are other things you can read out of this :p
What I am trying to say: you cant tell much with these stats.

I have to say that atm the European players are doing very well!

p.s. cant wait till I wake up tomorrow morning (23.39 atm) and all the NA players have voted on NA

hellsan631

United States695 Posts

February 09 2011 22:54 GMT

#115

EU pros play a lot on ladder, whilst NA pro's play a lot of custom games.

I would say that its harder to compare the two, even at events, there is jet lag and what not. If we take a look at MLG, the EU players that went didn't do that well. If we take a look at IEM, the NA players didn't do that well.

So while ladder vs ladder, NA lacks. I think its really hard to make a call on the pro scene.

manicshock

Canada741 Posts

February 09 2011 22:57 GMT

#116

On February 10 2011 05:38 Inori wrote:

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No.. that actually just shows how retarded bonus pool system is. Meaty (Naniwa?) got first to 4k diamond on US with like 130 wins or something?

Bonus pool means nothing. Just cut off bonus pool, and he's the first to whatever it was at that point. It literally means nothing except relativity. He's 1.5k compared to other people who are 1.2k vs 4k and 3.7k with a bonus pool of 2.5k. It does mean it's possible to reach a point easier then before, but that makes that point mean less as bonus pool increases.

XothermeK

United Arab Emirates245 Posts

February 09 2011 23:13 GMT

#117

EU, nuff said.

busbarn

Sweden984 Posts

February 09 2011 23:18 GMT

#118

I think you should let the top-players who play on both servers decide on this. It's kind of stupid to try to argue when you don't have experienced it yourself. From what I heard, almost all pro players playing on both says that they're almost equally hard.

Imo let the Assembly/MLG/DH/ESL events show us which continent got better players.