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Klosetmonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway208 Posts
February 09 2011 19:05 GMT
#41
the only thing different in my experience is the meta game, but in terms of skill there are several examples of excellent protoss, terran and zerg players on every server
Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else
esperanto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany357 Posts
February 09 2011 19:05 GMT
#42
I'd be intressted in how many tournaments all in all have been played on EU and NA cause I think this can make a diffence. Apart from the 5 "star pro-gamer" each server has, I think tournaments like Go4SC2 (with 512- to 1024 players) bring a broad amout of gamers in the competetive level. So far (havent had the time yet to look it up) I'd say there were more of these tournaments in EU.
Armsved
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark642 Posts
February 09 2011 19:06 GMT
#43
On February 10 2011 03:33 Stratus wrote:
Eu is 40 countries and NA is 1 you figure it out.


Ok I've been trying to figure it out, but I cant. Could you please explain?
YOOO
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
February 09 2011 19:08 GMT
#44
Look....

lol... there are good players everywhere. More importantly, no matter where you are on the ladder, your playing with people of skill level similar to you. So don't try to justify losing games with a "but people here are better" mentality.

This kind of discussion just feeds all the sore losers... play your game where you are and get better. As long as there are players better than you on the ladder, you still have work to do. Kill this thread already people are just dissing each other now
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
February 09 2011 19:11 GMT
#45
A better question would be:

Why does Sweden produce such good players?
I have a beard. I'm unprofessional.
eXwOn
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada351 Posts
February 09 2011 19:12 GMT
#46
lol... there are good players everywhere. More importantly, no matter where you are on the ladder, your playing with people of skill level similar to you. So don't try to justify losing games with a "but people here are better" mentality.
I disagree. At the tip toppity top you don't always get matched with people of your skill, due to lack of people at your level. This leads to the 3:1 w:l ratios that aren't uncommon.
#2 in the world on the ladders!!! 3.31.11 :D:D:D
Stratus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
February 09 2011 19:13 GMT
#47
On February 10 2011 03:02 ccHaZaRd wrote:
canada carries america, usa really need to step it up :D


i apologize i should've said NA is 2 mainly usa and canada.

this is just as ignorant sir so gg.

But think about it 2 countries competing on a ladder compared to 40 you would think it would be a lil more competitive and therefore harder.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
February 09 2011 19:13 GMT
#48
On February 10 2011 04:12 eXwOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
lol... there are good players everywhere. More importantly, no matter where you are on the ladder, your playing with people of skill level similar to you. So don't try to justify losing games with a "but people here are better" mentality.
I disagree. At the tip toppity top you don't always get matched with people of your skill, due to lack of people at your level. This leads to the 3:1 w:l ratios that aren't uncommon.


How is this not uncommon? There are not many people high on the ladder with higher than 65% win loss.
eXwOn
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada351 Posts
February 09 2011 19:22 GMT
#49
Hmm here's a little idea I had...
Lets assume the top 200 from NA and EU are close in skill. If the overall server playerbase is good enough, the W:L ratios of T200 will be lower, due to higher amounts of precise matchmaking.

Here's the NA:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1797994

And EU:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/554903

this could be flawed, however, due to many factors.

Just a theory.
#2 in the world on the ladders!!! 3.31.11 :D:D:D
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
February 09 2011 19:23 GMT
#50
On February 10 2011 03:19 speedphlux wrote:
Why do we have to turn this into ePenis measuring contest ?
I'm from EU, but most of my favorite players have origins in the NA server - KiwiKaki, Huk, InControl, IdrA, Day[9], Arthritis, Tasteless, djWheat, miniWheat, qxc, Machine and CatZ, just to name a few.
EU players might be better, in some cases, but the names that stand out for me from the EU region are ... TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, DeMuslim, Mondragon and Grubby. And I'm really struggling to figure out more names that I really enjoy watching. Yes, of course, there are Nama, Mana, Mama and Sjow, but ... they're not exactly that sort of attention grabbers as most of the NA players.

So which server is better ? Who cares really ? Both are behind the Korean.

Really no White-ra, Dimaga or Socke ?
Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
February 09 2011 19:25 GMT
#51
For me its EU just cuz of the latency wich makes me lose against noob rushes.
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
February 09 2011 19:26 GMT
#52
On February 10 2011 04:12 eXwOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
lol... there are good players everywhere. More importantly, no matter where you are on the ladder, your playing with people of skill level similar to you. So don't try to justify losing games with a "but people here are better" mentality.
I disagree. At the tip toppity top you don't always get matched with people of your skill, due to lack of people at your level. This leads to the 3:1 w:l ratios that aren't uncommon.


Huk has a 67% ratio as the #1 on EU ladder so it is uncommon.
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 09 2011 19:27 GMT
#53
On February 10 2011 04:11 Striding Strider wrote:
A better question would be:

Why does Sweden produce such good players?


Nerf Sweden Blizz, this is getting ridiculous
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
February 09 2011 19:27 GMT
#54
This thread is awful. Seriously, how can you clearly decide this...
750/750 emotions fully stacked
eXwOn
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada351 Posts
February 09 2011 19:28 GMT
#55
On February 10 2011 04:26 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 04:12 eXwOn wrote:
lol... there are good players everywhere. More importantly, no matter where you are on the ladder, your playing with people of skill level similar to you. So don't try to justify losing games with a "but people here are better" mentality.
I disagree. At the tip toppity top you don't always get matched with people of your skill, due to lack of people at your level. This leads to the 3:1 w:l ratios that aren't uncommon.


Huk has a 67% ratio as the #1 on EU ladder so it is uncommon.

Didn't HuK have a 3:1 ratio on NA though?
#2 in the world on the ladders!!! 3.31.11 :D:D:D
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
February 09 2011 19:35 GMT
#56
Who cares? It's impossible to measure anyway. I think europeans on the pro level are slightly ahead though.
Hipster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States57 Posts
February 09 2011 19:36 GMT
#57
On February 10 2011 03:53 rauk wrote:
i think europe has always had a greater number of high skilled players in every single esports game, not just sc2. pretty much all the good international 1.6 teams, quake, wc3, bw, pk, etc players have been from europe. however, i think in terms of peak skill between europe and the US+canada they're probably about the same, except for 1.6.


quake? bw? come on now :p

pretty much rapha > all and idra/nony in bw.
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
February 09 2011 19:37 GMT
#58
As much as I would like to believe that NA and EU are equal my impression is that EU has better players at the top level.
Boxer, White-Ra, Grubby, Flash fighting!
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
February 09 2011 19:40 GMT
#59
none are more "skilled" they're just more dedicated, Koreans are much more dedicated to the game than europeans or americans, it's not like one location makes people naturally smarter or w/e lol

it's like in poker we said americans were smarter and asians stupid cuz americans>europeans>asians in terms of results
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
February 09 2011 19:40 GMT
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