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Red.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Spain228 Posts
February 06 2011 13:16 GMT
#361
Lets face it, maybe MVP was practicing his macro, yes, but... at the end of the day everyone wants to win games laddering or not laddering... no one loses on purpose for practice in ladder, thats what they do when practicing against their teammates imo. Amazing play by them, the stream was incredibly crowded
"Truth is cold and tough; lies are warm and always give you an excuse"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#362
Great game. But it felt like Idra was always on top in mid-game and late game. But against IMMvp you are never certain to win.
I had a good night of sleep.
feaynnewedd
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany41 Posts
February 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#363
+ Show Spoiler +
No creep spread from Idra late game at all? Looks like he completely lost focus and felt very secure after crushing that initial push... not a good game by him in my opinion after that. But MVP was already so behind that it did not really matter... Well Idra did still play well, but with absolutely NO creep spread I think he forgot about one fundamental Zerg mechanic.
Dinotoss hwaiting!
IamWasted
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5 Posts
February 06 2011 13:21 GMT
#364
That was really awesome, Idra kept Mvp on his toes the whole game seemingly effective and still it was a very close one, when Mvp began all these guerilla drops!
Very entertaining to watch! =D
This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper.
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
February 06 2011 13:35 GMT
#365
On February 06 2011 22:13 Juaks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 08:44 Holdinga wrote:
[image loading]

Made by me =)


It's funny but a bit unfair. That was the only noticeable mistake Artosis did in that long game and you should be thankful Artosis did this shout cast and shared it with the community.



I laughed hard at that pic

But when I watched the POV version, I didn't see the genius Broodlord, so thanks to Artosis, I am now aware derp. Also, when you see 20 marines under FG with 3 infestors nearby, I don't think, at this level, that it's worth watching them die even if it's entertaining. I mean, they ARE GOING to die under fungal.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
February 06 2011 13:36 GMT
#366
On February 06 2011 22:20 feaynnewedd wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
No creep spread from Idra late game at all? Looks like he completely lost focus and felt very secure after crushing that initial push... not a good game by him in my opinion after that. But MVP was already so behind that it did not really matter... Well Idra did still play well, but with absolutely NO creep spread I think he forgot about one fundamental Zerg mechanic.


Oh yes, because harassing two places at once with mutas, another with Broolords, while setting up Infestor traps and defending 2~4drops, ALL AT ONCE is what you call "losing focus".

He needed, like, OVER NINE THOUSAND apm to creep spread while doing this
krews
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1308 Posts
February 06 2011 13:44 GMT
#367
On February 06 2011 21:17 Bobble wrote:
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On February 06 2011 20:10 feanor5 wrote:
great game, nice cast Artosis, but u missed the funal growth (


It's been said before, but the Fungals on the marines doesn't really need to be seen. Yes, it's freaking awesome to see a bunch of marines dying under some green goo, but Artosis is commentating on the match, and rather than watching the marines slowly die under the Fungal Growths, he decided to watch and comment on the sneaky Brood Lord wreaking his economy. Not very entertaining, but it's something he can talk about rather than 'HOLY CRAP, LOOK AT THOSE MARINES JUST ABOUT TO DIE, JUST WAIT FOR THIS FG TO WREAK THEM!'


it needed to be seen. you obviously saw the game live and knew what was going on already.
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
February 06 2011 13:57 GMT
#368
That was awesome IdrA is such a boss
"What is this TeamSupportGroup?" - mahnini.
Andehh
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 14:58:45
February 06 2011 14:01 GMT
#369
My feeling on the game was that MVP wasn't playing his best. His 2-base marine timing only denied his third, once, and didn't even check idra's natural (maybe he scanned). I felt that he could have done lots of damage there.

When MVP started to slow push with tanks he was careless, losing too many tanks and medivacs. He dropped his third late, maybe he was trying to allin after delaying idra's third. It completely failed. After his push fell apart I think he started trying and placed a third and tried to drop his way back into the game.

The rest of the game was a shit fight, Idra just needed a way to win. He was so far ahead when he killed the tank push and saw that he didn't take his third as early as he could have. He knew it, he just need to killing move. But since MVP is terran with his tanks, mules and super efficient marines, it's actually super hard to kill a dying terran.

The supply through-out was misleding, mutalisk and banelings are very expensive per supply, compared to the cheap marines. The game was only seemed close because of this and how hard it is to actually kill a terran. This game just shows how hard it is to win as zerg. Even Artosis laughed when he saw the 40-12 worker count. MVP should have lost earlier. I am crying; I am a zerg player, but this game is ridiculous.

As for Artosis I think he is easily the best SC2 commentator. He's knowledgeable, enthusiastic and hiliarious when he wants to be. He only talked about the game, he refrained from zerg instinct that alot of player have developed. It was entertaining. If I was casting I'd be sympathising with every zerg on the korean ladder and making horrible jokes about terran.
danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 14:42:04
February 06 2011 14:41 GMT
#370
On February 06 2011 22:16 Red. wrote:
Lets face it, maybe MVP was practicing his macro, yes, but... at the end of the day everyone wants to win games laddering or not laddering... no one loses on purpose for practice in ladder, thats what they do when practicing against their teammates imo. Amazing play by them, the stream was incredibly crowded

Seems reasonable to me. Why would one progamer for whom starcraft 2 is his purpose in life at this point in time, who just won convincingly the last GSL and who's already acknowledged as best Terran care about fine tweaking his skill for following competitions?

Ladder rank is way more important than that.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 06 2011 15:14 GMT
#371
great game! thx for casting this artosis
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
February 06 2011 15:19 GMT
#372
On February 06 2011 20:03 Kelekkis wrote:
IMMVP played with like 40 scvs whole game?


He didn't build any planetaries so he was working with a ton of mules from all those OCs at expansions. You don't really need too many SCVs in that situation.
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
February 06 2011 15:19 GMT
#373
On February 06 2011 23:41 danielsan wrote:
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On February 06 2011 22:16 Red. wrote:
Lets face it, maybe MVP was practicing his macro, yes, but... at the end of the day everyone wants to win games laddering or not laddering... no one loses on purpose for practice in ladder, thats what they do when practicing against their teammates imo. Amazing play by them, the stream was incredibly crowded

Seems reasonable to me. Why would one progamer for whom starcraft 2 is his purpose in life at this point in time, who just won convincingly the last GSL and who's already acknowledged as best Terran care about fine tweaking his skill for following competitions?

Ladder rank is way more important than that.


game was over after IdrA crushed MVP like that
losing those tanks early on and the medivacs ............. he was so behind
i am impressed he held on that long ... GG IdrA
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
February 06 2011 15:26 GMT
#374
Awesome awesome game. Thanks Artosis.

Btw does anyone know the song when they sing about Idra, and it's like Eminem feat Dido - Stan?
ggaemo fan
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
February 06 2011 15:30 GMT
#375
On February 07 2011 00:26 valaki wrote:
Awesome awesome game. Thanks Artosis.

Btw does anyone know the song when they sing about Idra, and it's like Eminem feat Dido - Stan?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190481
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
BritishBeef
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom372 Posts
February 06 2011 15:35 GMT
#376
On February 06 2011 21:54 Westy wrote:
Haha, I love how when some random no namer open's a thread with a commentary of this game it gets locked by the admins for "no content".

Then soon as a name like Artosis creates the thread it goes on for 18 pages!

So, is it really the content admins care for? Or just the big names?
Hmmm...



You mean artosis created a thread with content .. the replay casted which no-one else could have since idra doesn't give out replays only sometimes to artosis... I bet if someone had casted idra from his fpvod put some content in wouldn't have been closed either..
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
February 06 2011 15:38 GMT
#377
Wow, sick game man! Nice cast too
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
February 06 2011 15:43 GMT
#378
On February 06 2011 22:20 feaynnewedd wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
No creep spread from Idra late game at all? Looks like he completely lost focus and felt very secure after crushing that initial push... not a good game by him in my opinion after that. But MVP was already so behind that it did not really matter... Well Idra did still play well, but with absolutely NO creep spread I think he forgot about one fundamental Zerg mechanic.

What? You base a good game on creep spread? Creep spread is like number 25 in important things for Zerg to do... it's great it something is going on but otherwise it's not important. Did you not notice the ridiculous amount of midgame harassment and harassment defense Idra was doing?
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Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
February 06 2011 15:51 GMT
#379
Wow insane game, thanks alot!
God is dead.
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
February 06 2011 15:54 GMT
#380
On February 06 2011 10:12 Megaliskuu wrote:
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On February 06 2011 09:16 MCMXVI wrote:
IMMvp is still better than Idra, just because he says GG before he leaves the game, something Idra with 99.8% certainty wouldn't have done


Yup I say gg every game therefore I'm the best player in the world.

Get a fucking clue kid. Idra took down the best sc2 player in the world.


Yeah, he did. However, winning in a tournament setting is vastly different than on the ladder. Not trying to take anything away from idra, he played great.
the UMP says YER OUT
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