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+ Show Spoiler [player list] + 1 스타테일폭격기 (ST_Bomber) 1247 924
2 NEXExcrement 916 753
3 IMMvp 834 517
4 베스킨라빈스 (MarineKingPrime) 259 94
5 oGsTOP 1069 719
6 kAsyufOu 630 519
7 IMLosirA 1287 1061
8 저승사자 140 51 (Mystery shared team account, see below)
9 티에스엘사기수 (TSL_SKS) 853 661
10 NEXPuzzle 939 749
11 IMJunwiPirme 930 546
12 PoltPrime 845 669
13 스타테일안심이 (ST_July) 1170 913
14 스타테일레인보우 (ST_RainbOw) 625 422
15 sCfOu 825 637
16 oGsCezanne 532 382
17 KeenMvP 495 391
18 알리시아 (Alicia) 1296 1138
19 Liberty 614 499
20 티에스엘과일장수 (TSL_FruitDealer) 645 447
20 RyungPrime 942 739
22 동래구프로에쓰 (DongNaeGu_ProS) 570 418
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24 IMGanZi 824 665
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26 한니발프라임 (HannibalPrime) 652 446
27 EGIdrA 519 404
28 oGsHyperdub 772 619
28 HongUnPrime 731 496
30 스타테일바이러스 (ST_Virus) 1433 1159
31 마부라호 (Maburaho) 193 116
31 TankboyPrime 635 521
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34 슬레이어스박서 (SlayerSBoxeR) 753 512
35 티에스엘푸우 (TSL_Pooh) 843 715
36 티에스엘킬러 (TSL_Killer) 636 497
37 스타테일괴물 (ST_Monster) 664 545
38 oGsTheWinD 923 767
39 TwilightfOu 605 496
40 CutefOu 547 448
41 LiquidHuK 613 524
42 엔에스피짝지 (NsP_JjakJi) 825 687
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48 창조의아침 (NewDawn) 626 529
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55 HwangSin 120 64
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59 스타테일어거스트 (ST_August) 265 188
62 Hansei 169 116
63 티에스엘기니피그 (TSL_GuineaPig) 642 522
64 오지에스잉카 (oGsInca) 620 492
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66 슬레이어스짭승우 (SlayerS_NoobSeungWoo) 394 288
67 비담제니스 (BiDamZenith) 643 528
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68 oGsJ 814 725
70 fever 933 791
70 makaprime 730 516
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80 oGsGon 794 553
80 NEXDeer 1031 913
82 NuclearfOu 1050 919
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86 dreamertt 471 365
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88 테란을왜했을까 186 121
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91 BoxeR 980 633
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94 anyproPrime 685 535
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99 NEXReturning 561 494
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104 Shy 273 212
105 ShinefOu 1007 916
105 NEXIceCream 570 501
107 NEXSkit 1632 1517
108 EtdYinhulu 459 375
108 SJY 152 72
110 IMYongHwa 833 697
111 NvCommItment 885 813
112 inorifOu 1382 1291
112 마법소녀 (MagicalGirl?) 964 844
112 반반쓰제니스 (BanBanSsuZenith) 528 424
115 Allin 180 140
116 PoaChers 828 739
117 렉스베스트오브한 (REX_BestOfHan) 441 367
118 oGsTheStC 544 428
119 MarpsPrime 1311 1179
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121 먼나라이웃나라 (FarAndNear) 169 82
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123 맹덕스핀 (BanelingSpin) 181 135
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126 슬레이어스라츠 (SlayerS_Rache) 594 525
127 저그랑께 (ThisIsZerg) 277 163
127 NvMacSed 2111 1957
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131 루이즈프랑소와즈 130 73
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135 IMhorror 1445 1357
136 Destination 509 419
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138 LiquidRet 164 104
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152 lOvaCaCia 818 725
154 ZergKing (Sen) 390 313
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157 코코슈 (KoKoShoo) 145 65
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160 jOystiCk 434 352
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161 WnagMuna 889 804
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168 oGsOnizukA 205 131
168 LuckyfOu 1137 1031
171 Clear 159 69
172 렉스공익근무요원 (REX_PublicServant?) 172 107
173 Justice 182 131
174 리베로프라임 (LiberoPrime) 718 630
175 휴지 (ToiletPaper) 480 330
175 컴박사홍흑형 (DoctorComputerHongHeukHyung) 1049 938
177 IMNalZa 912 827
178 내목숨을거울님에 108 72
179 Bisu 209 156
180 PhoeNix 1071 971
181 Luffy 888 831
181 MinPrime 1585 1476
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184 PanDaAce 454 395
185 mOOnGLaDe 161 123
186 TheBestfOu 863 774
187 SonRistaSG 557 467
187 렉스서현 (REX_SeoHyun) 595 513
189 크롬 (Chrome) 438 368
190 Wacomm 310 232
191 eNvious 190 134
192 TeriuSfOu 825 731
193 SiriusfOu 967 889
194 Haru 179 130
194 FairyMvP 819 706
194 IMSleep 1124 1036
197 PrayfOu 766 685
198 낭천프라임 (NangCheonPrime?) 556 496
199 PartinGfOu 789 727
199 유리포커스 (YuriFocus) 1071 989
Zerg 50 (25.0%) ↓08 (4.0%)
Terran 86 (43.0%) ↑14 (7.0%)
Protoss 63 (31.5%) ↓06 (3.0%)
Random 1 ( 0.5%)
Interesting that on a week where Protoss representation went way up on the NA server, it was Terran representation that skyrocketed on the Korean server.
Among the Koreans at the very top, team distribution is more even than it was last week. We once again have a new smurf who skyrocketed to the top. Some people say that it's  EffOrt, but I should stress that this is not based off of hard information, but just speculation and rumors. It could just as easily be any other top zerg or a shared team account.
On December 16 2010 09:50 TicketoHELL wrote:
for op saying 저승사자 is effort, that's an old rumour that went around months ago
now ppl from playxp are saying 저승사자 is a id a certain team shares with its teammates
for the proof, 저승사자 is listed as a zerg but played terran at the last moment to get that high in ell
Foreigners, once again, had mixed results, maybe a little for better than for worse. Idra continued to rise, from 40 to 27, Huk went up again from 65 to 42, and Ret popped back on the list at 138 after not being on last week. Luffy and Moonglade also appeared on the list after an absence last week, at 181 and 185 respectively. Sen dropped for the 3rd week in a row from 102 to 154, and Haypro disappeared completely, and Jinro is once again not to be found (although having played only 5 ladder games since November 23rd, this is to be expected).
Source: http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/blog/513801#blog
Last Week
I've done all the names I know for sure, trying to figure out the rest. if you know Korean and want to correct me on one of the ones I've marked with a question mark or just translate the ones that have nothing so far, just post em up and I'll edit them in and give you credit~
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go NEXExcrement, that guy is the shit 
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 14 2010 11:14 Wargizmo wrote:go NEXExcrement, that guy is the shit
Poor.
Also, hasn't there been speculation about EffOrt for months now? Is there any more evidence this time than the last?
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United States7481 Posts
On December 14 2010 11:17 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 11:14 Wargizmo wrote:go NEXExcrement, that guy is the shit Poor. Also, hasn't there been speculation about EffOrt for months now? Is there any more evidence this time than the last?
No hard evidence but it's the prevailing opinion among the netizens on playxp from what I can tell. Somebody who reads playxp fairly often would be able to say better.
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Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?
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What's the rumored Effort's name in sc2?
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United States7481 Posts
On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?
That's his name on b.net, so if anybody made the type it was him.
On December 14 2010 11:25 Disastorm wrote:
What's the rumored Effort's name in sc2?
저승사자
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wow 140-51, the alien is back
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does anyone know what Artosis is ranked at? Or even his name? Unless he is ranked wayyy down there, I didn't see an Artosis. ;\
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oh wow i just realized the other day i looked at the korean top of the ladder and saw some dude with nearly 75% win ratio, a significant higher ratio then most of the other top players and was wondering who he was. I guess he was none other than the alien himself.
Someone go get Agent Mulder, all hail the return of the alien!
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On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?
It's a typo by Junwi.
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Obviously Jinro is not on the list because he wasn't laddering in preparation for GSL... He's probably better than the vast majority of the guys in the ladder top 200.
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I was super stoked when random B-team progamers were playing. Then came the brood war legends and I was drooling over them because they were players I grew up admiring. But effort!? The fucker that 3-2ed the god of brood war in the finals just 2 OSLs ago. neo-sAviOr, the #2 zerg in the world and best management style zerg of this era. Woah
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hm.. we have no evidence to support this 저승사자=EffOrt right now. people are just guessing like that because he is extremely good. somebody says he is effort, somebody says it is just team id.
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United States7481 Posts
On December 14 2010 11:52 farseerdk wrote:
Obviously Jinro is not on the list because he wasn't laddering in preparation for GSL... He's probably better than the vast majority of the guys in the ladder top 200.
Yeah he's only played 5 games on ladder (going 4-1) since the November 23rd top 200 list, I'll make that more clear in the OP.
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EFFFFFOFOFOFOFOROOOORORRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Who's with me?
LOL, NEX Excrement? That's hilarious.
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On December 14 2010 11:29 InRainbows wrote:
does anyone know what Artosis is ranked at? Or even his name? Unless he is ranked wayyy down there, I didn't see an Artosis. ;\
im pretty sure him and tasteless both said they smurf on the ladder
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United States7481 Posts
On December 14 2010 11:57 namedplayer wrote:
hm.. we have no evidence to support this 저승사자=EffOrt right now. people are just guessing like that because he is extremely good. it would be great if he is the very guy.
Thanks for the clarification, I've now tried to make it as clear as possible that it's just speculation.
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i think i remember effort joining slayers
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On December 14 2010 11:14 Wargizmo wrote:go NEXExcrement, that guy is the shit
he either 1st or 3rd when Idra played him on stream. Idra rolled him easily.
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Testers getting up there.
Good to see.
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There's not much evidence that 저승사자 is EffOrt. I saw Antoine's post on PlayXP. First reply was "There are rumours that it is former CJ Entus Progamer EffOrt", followed by "It is not EffOrt", "It's probably a shared team ID(account)." Other searches bring up "At one point in time, there was lot of talk about 저승사자 being EffOrt". "It's sAviOr playing with a friend's account (lol)". As pointed out by Antoine it is all speculation and rumours.
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It's actually really cool how Blizzard releases these top 200 lists.
Random smurf accounts showing up in the top 10 makes it exciting, reminds me of following the WC3 ladder back before it got broken.
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tester playing a lot again? this guy needs to get things done for gsl2011 to retain his gosu status!! gogo tester
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On December 14 2010 13:11 dkim wrote:
tester playing a lot again? this guy needs to get things done for gsl2011 to retain his gosu status!! gogo tester
Totally agree, Tester has always had his Gosu status though. People still considered him one of the best if not the best Protoss in the world even after failing to qualify for the GSL twice in a row. FruitDealer still thinks he is the best player in the world and that's saying something. Hope Tester can stop choking, MC's gotten over it, It's time for Tester to aswell.
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If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.
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On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.
IMMvp.
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On December 14 2010 13:28 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill. IMMvp.
MVP was a good player, solid A teamer who was fresh off an OSL top 8 and playing a decent match vs Flash. However, I don't think he was ever considered close to s-class or one of the best terrans, middle of the pack mostly. Effort was pretty consistently the 2nd best zerg in the world behind Jaedong so as good as MVP is, Effort would still be a much bigger name. It's just wild speculation at this point though. MVP definitely did change over so that's something in his favor.
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On December 14 2010 13:32 Anchen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 13:28 FataLe wrote:On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill. IMMvp. MVP was a good player, solid A teamer who was fresh off an OSL top 8 and playing a decent match vs Flash. However, I don't think he was ever considered close to s-class or one of the best terrans, middle of the pack mostly. Effort was pretty consistently the 2nd best zerg in the world behind Jaedong so as good as MVP is, Effort would still be a much bigger name. It's just wild speculation at this point though. MVP definitely did change over so that's something in his favor.
I agree, I don't know much about Brood War.
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On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.
Judging from FD, Nestea and OgsMC's performance. These 3 are BW ex-progamer but they never archieve anything big in BW.
I'd say some one like Stork or Fantasy will sweep the SC2 scene clean if they switch over.
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MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.
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On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.
You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.
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Good to see Huk and IdrA climbing that ladder.
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On December 14 2010 11:46 netherDrake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?
It's a typo by Junwi.
LOL that was hilarious! I can imagine his face after doing the name change only to realize he made a typo LOL
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On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing. You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.
don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually there's only 2 on KR ladder.
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On December 14 2010 15:10 namedplayer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing. You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive. don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually we got only 2 on KR ladder.
Key word, abusive. To negate what you're saying you have to play proactively and Not reactionary. This perfectly describes MKP's style. To some extent it grants immediate success playing proactively, however once people figure your style out you will fall apart. Reactionary players > Proactive players in the long run. For an example of why this style is flawed watch the series between MC and MKP. In one of the games, on Jungle Basin his late-game control was laughable (His ghost play gave me giggles) This is a direct result of being a Proactive player as most of his games don't make late-game and as such he doesn't have the best late-game in the world.
Now back to what I'm saying, His win ratio is based purely on style. You can enjoy a high win ratio by playing like this but once you are figured out, you are done. Which is why most Koreans don't have a high win ratio instead focusing on a more all round style which will work out for them in the long run.
One other thing, games played. When the account has over 1k games played and has the same win ratio then it deserves to be appreciated, other than that you guys really need to get off the MKP bandwagon. He isn't as good as people think.
Note: Playing proactively imostly pertains to Protoss & Terran, though possible with Zerg it goes against the races mechanics is very hard to pull off at a competitive level.
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On December 14 2010 14:59 mrdx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 11:46 netherDrake wrote:On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?
It's a typo by Junwi. LOL that was hilarious! I can imagine his face after doing the name change only to realize he made a typo LOL
Supposedly he made the typo intentionally out of respect for Prime after he was no longer in their clan or something (so said Tastosis during a gsl cast)
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On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing. You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.
thats actually a very good point regarding the supposed to be effort. thats either a zerg player who never gets caught offguard or a player who never loses unless he gets caught off guard.
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On December 14 2010 11:11 Antoine wrote:
[spoiler=player list] Huk went up again from 65 to 42
WOOT GO HUK.
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On December 14 2010 15:34 theqat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 14:59 mrdx wrote:On December 14 2010 11:46 netherDrake wrote:On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?
It's a typo by Junwi. LOL that was hilarious! I can imagine his face after doing the name change only to realize he made a typo LOL Supposedly he made the typo intentionally out of respect for Prime after he was no longer in their clan or something (so said Tastosis during a gsl cast)
To me that doesn't make sense unless he likes the letters P R I M and E in his name.
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seriously did NEXExcrement just pull that name out of his ass?
either that or he has a weird sense of humor
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191 eNvious 190 134
eNvious started playing in the korean server? If so, nice
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i'm gonna lose my shit if that's effort.
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I think the most impressive thing is Idra. After watching his stream he pretty often just surrenders games instantly when seeing who it is and on which map. I saw this happen about four times in a row against a T when he got DQ all the time. He does this alot. He has a very good percentage in the games he actually play =)
(I know that he probably surrenders because he thinks it's impossible to win, but anyways)
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United Arab Emirates492 Posts
Moon (Liberty) @ 19,
THE beast has been awoken!!!
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i'm not gonna scream like a girl until it's confirmed to be Effort.
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On December 14 2010 15:17 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:10 namedplayer wrote:On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing. You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive. don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually we got only 2 on KR ladder. Key word, abusive. To negate what you're saying you have to play proactively and Not reactionary. This perfectly describes MKP's style. To some extent it grants immediate success playing proactively, however once people figure your style out you will fall apart. Reactionary players > Proactive players in the long run. For an example of why this style is flawed watch the series between MC and MKP. In one of the games, on Jungle Basin his late-game control was laughable (His ghost play gave me giggles) This is a direct result of being a Proactive player as most of his games don't make late-game and as such he doesn't have the best late-game in the world. Now back to what I'm saying, His win ratio is based purely on style. You can enjoy a high win ratio by playing like this but once you are figured out, you are done. Which is why most Koreans don't have a high win ratio instead focusing on a more all round style which will work out for them in the long run. One other thing, games played. When the account has over 1k games played and has the same win ratio then it deserves to be appreciated, other than that you guys really need to get off the MKP bandwagon. He isn't as good as people think. Note: Playing proactively imostly pertains to Protoss & Terran, though possible with Zerg it goes against the races mechanics is very hard to pull off at a competitive level.
look at huk's new account and look at idra's account. idra was 6x% when he got less then 200 games...
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Zerg getting absolutely destroyed and Terran owning again... common Blizzard open ur eyes! This is how it's been basically since the game came out, would think they'd figure out how to fix this better by now.
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On December 14 2010 19:19 namedplayer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:17 FataLe wrote:On December 14 2010 15:10 namedplayer wrote:On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing. You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive. don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually we got only 2 on KR ladder. Key word, abusive. To negate what you're saying you have to play proactively and Not reactionary. This perfectly describes MKP's style. To some extent it grants immediate success playing proactively, however once people figure your style out you will fall apart. Reactionary players > Proactive players in the long run. For an example of why this style is flawed watch the series between MC and MKP. In one of the games, on Jungle Basin his late-game control was laughable (His ghost play gave me giggles) This is a direct result of being a Proactive player as most of his games don't make late-game and as such he doesn't have the best late-game in the world. Now back to what I'm saying, His win ratio is based purely on style. You can enjoy a high win ratio by playing like this but once you are figured out, you are done. Which is why most Koreans don't have a high win ratio instead focusing on a more all round style which will work out for them in the long run. One other thing, games played. When the account has over 1k games played and has the same win ratio then it deserves to be appreciated, other than that you guys really need to get off the MKP bandwagon. He isn't as good as people think. Note: Playing proactively imostly pertains to Protoss & Terran, though possible with Zerg it goes against the races mechanics is very hard to pull off at a competitive level. look at huk's new account and look at idra's account. idra was 6x% when he got less then 200 games...
Are you implying I think that reactionary players can't have a winratio over 50%? You're giving me the impression that you don't have a clue of what I'm talking about.
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Hahaha MyLifeforIU!!! such a good ID, if anyone knows IU or has seen the GomTV commercial, then they'd get it
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On December 14 2010 18:28 Gunman_csz wrote:
Moon (Liberty) @ 19,
THE beast has been awoken!!!
He's practicing for his Code A tiebreaker 
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If that's actually Eff0rt my brain will explode. He'll simply dominate the game with his level of pure talent. And that's not just the Entus fanboy talking. :p
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LofSolar is probably Artosis and jOystiCk is probably Tasteless (if both are really smurfing in ladder).
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On December 15 2010 00:35 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 18:28 Gunman_csz wrote:
Moon (Liberty) @ 19,
THE beast has been awoken!!! He's practicing for his Code A tiebreaker
Terran? Is that because he has more games played as T or did he switch back?
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So oGsTheWind hit etd.grrr when laddering on stream today. After the game, i asked in chat if it was 기욤 and thewind said no, so unless he was screwing with me (who knows how likely this is, but I'm discounting it) or was saying it for some other reason (very unlikely given everything else in chat at the moment) then we can say that etd.grrr is not the real grrr.
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Highly, Highly, Highly doubt it is effort. He was quite adamant about doing other things besides gaming, and last I heard he was attending university and doing quite well. There's a high possibility that he may play SC2 a little, but the time it takes to achieve such a high ranking on the ladder is something he both doesn't have and isn't willing to make.
On a more serious not, NEXExcrement sure has his shit together.
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EffOrt playing would make my christmas...seriously..I can only hope
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Nerf Marauder HP or attack, buff zergling attack a little or spine crawlers, done.
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On December 14 2010 16:13 JoeSchmoe wrote:
seriously did NEXExcrement just pull that name out of his ass?
pun intended?
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On December 16 2010 09:31 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Highly, Highly, Highly doubt it is effort. He was quite adamant about doing other things besides gaming, and last I heard he was attending university and doing quite well. There's a high possibility that he may play SC2 a little, but the time it takes to achieve such a high ranking on the ladder is something he both doesn't have and isn't willing to make.
On a more serious not, NEXExcrement sure has his shit together.
Effort is extremely skilled/talented. It's not that hard to learn sc2. Really, if you have a instructor, you need only a few weeks to get to top level. Mechanics and such can be learnt in a few days. Strategies and counters can be learnt in 2 weeks. Effort, on the other hand, has A-Class macro/micro. Don't underestimate a top tier progamer, who just won an OSL against Flash in Mai this year.
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for op saying 저승사자 is effort, that's an old rumour that went around months ago
now ppl from playxp are saying 저승사자 is a id a certain team shares with its teammates
for the proof, 저승사자 is listed as a zerg but played terran at the last moment to get that high in ell
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sad to see zerg down to 25% ~_~
ps i hope the effort rumours are true.
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On December 14 2010 14:09 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill. Judging from FD, Nestea and OgsMC's performance. These 3 are BW ex-progamer but they never archieve anything big in BW. I'd say some one like Stork or Fantasy will sweep the SC2 scene clean if they switch over.
Like Nada and Sangho? Being a BW pro is not everything, really. We've seen all the BW B-teamers outclassing the A-teamers in SC2 - it's a different game.
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On December 16 2010 10:26 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 14:09 Caphe wrote:On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill. Judging from FD, Nestea and OgsMC's performance. These 3 are BW ex-progamer but they never archieve anything big in BW. I'd say some one like Stork or Fantasy will sweep the SC2 scene clean if they switch over. Like Nada and Sangho? Being a BW pro is not everything, really. We've seen all the BW B-teamers outclassing the A-teamers in SC2 - it's a different game.
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.
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Good to see Tester doing well in the ladder lately.
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On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.
Dude, really?
That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports.
Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post.
That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.
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On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy. Dude, really? That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports. Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post. That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.
Err.. GuemChi did try to qualify for season 3... might wanna fix that dude
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On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy. Dude, really? That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports. Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post. That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.
MVP had a worse overall record than SangHo, but MVP had been playing much better since the beginning of November of last year (roughly, sangho's last 6 months of play)
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On December 16 2010 12:03 CanucksJC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy. Dude, really? That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports. Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post. That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it. Err.. GuemChi did try to qualify for season 3... might wanna fix that dude
Nah, he tried to qualify but failed, therefore he isn't a real SC2 player. (just trying to stay on the stupid's level if you know what I'm saying )
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On December 16 2010 12:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 12:03 CanucksJC wrote:On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy. Dude, really? That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports. Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post. That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it. Err.. GuemChi did try to qualify for season 3... might wanna fix that dude Nah, he tried to qualify but failed, therefore he isn't a real SC2 player. (just trying to stay on the stupid's level if you know what I'm saying )
let me restate my post since apparently it was too hard for you to understand: sangho and nada are not as good as fantasy and stork. it is useless to point to sangho/nada as examples of how bw b-teamers > bw a-teamers in starcraft 2 because they are both garbage "a-teamers." that is my refutation of the previous person's post, who directly compared nada/sangho to fantasy and stork, claiming the latter two would get raped in sc2 because "bw b teamers out class bw a teamers because it's a different game."
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so is it confirm?
that the Effort in the ranking is the legend from sc1?
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On December 16 2010 13:18 DarkRise wrote:
so is it confirm?
that the Effort in the ranking is the legend from sc1?
no, it's just an old rumor. in fact it's not him, i should delete it from the list at the top, i guess i'll still leave mention of the rumor in the below paragraphs
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Can we assume Jinro's disappearance is due to the countless hours he would be spending with oGsMC for gsl? or something more sinister?
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On December 16 2010 13:29 bkrow wrote:
Can we assume Jinro's disappearance is due to the countless hours he would be spending with oGsMC for gsl? or something more sinister?
I'm sure he's just doing tons of customs. As I said he only had 5 ladder games in a month, but I would be surprised if that didn't start gonig up again soon due to his elimination from GSL. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't been playing much ladder even after he lost due to helping MC, though.
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Not saying SangHo was as good as Stork or anything, but he had a good reason for falling off the map.
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