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nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
December 16 2010 00:40 GMT
#61
On December 16 2010 09:31 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Highly, Highly, Highly doubt it is effort. He was quite adamant about doing other things besides gaming, and last I heard he was attending university and doing quite well. There's a high possibility that he may play SC2 a little, but the time it takes to achieve such a high ranking on the ladder is something he both doesn't have and isn't willing to make.

On a more serious not, NEXExcrement sure has his shit together.


Effort is extremely skilled/talented. It's not that hard to learn sc2. Really, if you have a instructor, you need only a few weeks to get to top level. Mechanics and such can be learnt in a few days. Strategies and counters can be learnt in 2 weeks. Effort, on the other hand, has A-Class macro/micro. Don't underestimate a top tier progamer, who just won an OSL against Flash in Mai this year.
TicketoHELL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada368 Posts
December 16 2010 00:50 GMT
#62
for op saying 저승사자 is effort, that's an old rumour that went around months ago
now ppl from playxp are saying 저승사자 is a id a certain team shares with its teammates
for the proof, 저승사자 is listed as a zerg but played terran at the last moment to get that high in ell
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 16 2010 01:20 GMT
#63
sad to see zerg down to 25% ~_~

ps i hope the effort rumours are true.
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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
December 16 2010 01:26 GMT
#64
On December 14 2010 14:09 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.

Judging from FD, Nestea and OgsMC's performance. These 3 are BW ex-progamer but they never archieve anything big in BW.
I'd say some one like Stork or Fantasy will sweep the SC2 scene clean if they switch over.


Like Nada and Sangho? Being a BW pro is not everything, really. We've seen all the BW B-teamers outclassing the A-teamers in SC2 - it's a different game.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
December 16 2010 01:28 GMT
#65
On December 16 2010 10:26 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:09 Caphe wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.

Judging from FD, Nestea and OgsMC's performance. These 3 are BW ex-progamer but they never archieve anything big in BW.
I'd say some one like Stork or Fantasy will sweep the SC2 scene clean if they switch over.


Like Nada and Sangho? Being a BW pro is not everything, really. We've seen all the BW B-teamers outclassing the A-teamers in SC2 - it's a different game.


sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
December 16 2010 01:29 GMT
#66
Good to see Tester doing well in the ladder lately.
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
December 16 2010 03:00 GMT
#67
On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.




Dude, really?

That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports.

Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post.

That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.
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CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
December 16 2010 03:03 GMT
#68
On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.




Dude, really?

That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports.

Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post.

That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.

Err.. GuemChi did try to qualify for season 3... might wanna fix that dude
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 03:15:24
December 16 2010 03:12 GMT
#69
On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.




Dude, really?

That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports.

Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post.

That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.

MVP had a worse overall record than SangHo, but MVP had been playing much better since the beginning of November of last year (roughly, sangho's last 6 months of play)
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
December 16 2010 03:13 GMT
#70
On December 16 2010 12:03 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.




Dude, really?

That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports.

Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post.

That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.

Err.. GuemChi did try to qualify for season 3... might wanna fix that dude


Nah, he tried to qualify but failed, therefore he isn't a real SC2 player. (just trying to stay on the stupid's level if you know what I'm saying )
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 04:07:18
December 16 2010 03:54 GMT
#71
On December 16 2010 12:13 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 12:03 CanucksJC wrote:
On December 16 2010 12:00 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On December 16 2010 10:28 rauk wrote:
sangho was an a-teamer on estro. nada hasn't been relevant for a few years. the only real a-teamers that've switched are MVP and guemchi, off the top of my head, and no matter how much of a WL bonjwa GC is they're nowhere near the caliber of stork or fantasy.




Dude, really?

That's Like saying because someone plays soccer for Blackburn and not Arsenal then they aren't a real soccer player. Essentially, the dumbest, most ignorant thing you could say about pro sports.

Also, Sangho has a better BW record than MVP, and guemchi doesn't play. Clearly, you actually don't know what you are talking about and should probably think a little before you post.

That being said, you are correct (and I think a piece of my soul just died because I said that) in saying that none of the BW pros who transferred to SC2 are near the caliber of the superstars in BW currently. However, that's a point that has been discussed to death, and there is no reason to post it.

Err.. GuemChi did try to qualify for season 3... might wanna fix that dude


Nah, he tried to qualify but failed, therefore he isn't a real SC2 player. (just trying to stay on the stupid's level if you know what I'm saying )


let me restate my post since apparently it was too hard for you to understand: sangho and nada are not as good as fantasy and stork. it is useless to point to sangho/nada as examples of how bw b-teamers > bw a-teamers in starcraft 2 because they are both garbage "a-teamers." that is my refutation of the previous person's post, who directly compared nada/sangho to fantasy and stork, claiming the latter two would get raped in sc2 because "bw b teamers out class bw a teamers because it's a different game."
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
December 16 2010 04:15 GMT
#72
Nada a B-teamer?
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DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
December 16 2010 04:18 GMT
#73
so is it confirm?
that the Effort in the ranking is the legend from sc1?
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 16 2010 04:22 GMT
#74
On December 16 2010 13:18 DarkRise wrote:
so is it confirm?
that the Effort in the ranking is the legend from sc1?

no, it's just an old rumor. in fact it's not him, i should delete it from the list at the top, i guess i'll still leave mention of the rumor in the below paragraphs
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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
December 16 2010 04:29 GMT
#75
Can we assume Jinro's disappearance is due to the countless hours he would be spending with oGsMC for gsl? or something more sinister?
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 16 2010 04:32 GMT
#76
On December 16 2010 13:29 bkrow wrote:
Can we assume Jinro's disappearance is due to the countless hours he would be spending with oGsMC for gsl? or something more sinister?

I'm sure he's just doing tons of customs. As I said he only had 5 ladder games in a month, but I would be surprised if that didn't start gonig up again soon due to his elimination from GSL. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't been playing much ladder even after he lost due to helping MC, though.
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Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
December 16 2010 04:50 GMT
#77
Not saying SangHo was as good as Stork or anything, but he had a good reason for falling off the map.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 16 2010 04:57 GMT
#78
43% eh?
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