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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
December 14 2010 03:05 GMT
#21
Testers getting up there.
Good to see.
hi. big fan.
estee
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)449 Posts
December 14 2010 03:09 GMT
#22
There's not much evidence that 저승사자 is EffOrt. I saw Antoine's post on PlayXP. First reply was "There are rumours that it is former CJ Entus Progamer EffOrt", followed by "It is not EffOrt", "It's probably a shared team ID(account)." Other searches bring up "At one point in time, there was lot of talk about 저승사자 being EffOrt". "It's sAviOr playing with a friend's account (lol)". As pointed out by Antoine it is all speculation and rumours.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 14 2010 03:24 GMT
#23
It's actually really cool how Blizzard releases these top 200 lists.

Random smurf accounts showing up in the top 10 makes it exciting, reminds me of following the WC3 ladder back before it got broken.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
December 14 2010 04:11 GMT
#24
tester playing a lot again? this guy needs to get things done for gsl2011 to retain his gosu status!! gogo tester
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
December 14 2010 04:23 GMT
#25
On December 14 2010 13:11 dkim wrote:
tester playing a lot again? this guy needs to get things done for gsl2011 to retain his gosu status!! gogo tester

Totally agree, Tester has always had his Gosu status though. People still considered him one of the best if not the best Protoss in the world even after failing to qualify for the GSL twice in a row. FruitDealer still thinks he is the best player in the world and that's saying something. Hope Tester can stop choking, MC's gotten over it, It's time for Tester to aswell.
hi. big fan.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
December 14 2010 04:26 GMT
#26
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
December 14 2010 04:28 GMT
#27
On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.

IMMvp.
hi. big fan.
Anchen
Profile Joined January 2010
United States31 Posts
December 14 2010 04:32 GMT
#28
On December 14 2010 13:28 FataLe wrote:
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On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.

IMMvp.


MVP was a good player, solid A teamer who was fresh off an OSL top 8 and playing a decent match vs Flash. However, I don't think he was ever considered close to s-class or one of the best terrans, middle of the pack mostly. Effort was pretty consistently the 2nd best zerg in the world behind Jaedong so as good as MVP is, Effort would still be a much bigger name. It's just wild speculation at this point though. MVP definitely did change over so that's something in his favor.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
December 14 2010 04:36 GMT
#29
On December 14 2010 13:32 Anchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 13:28 FataLe wrote:
On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.

IMMvp.


MVP was a good player, solid A teamer who was fresh off an OSL top 8 and playing a decent match vs Flash. However, I don't think he was ever considered close to s-class or one of the best terrans, middle of the pack mostly. Effort was pretty consistently the 2nd best zerg in the world behind Jaedong so as good as MVP is, Effort would still be a much bigger name. It's just wild speculation at this point though. MVP definitely did change over so that's something in his favor.

I agree, I don't know much about Brood War.
hi. big fan.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 14 2010 05:09 GMT
#30
On December 14 2010 13:26 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Effort really does take up SC2 that will be amazing. I really want to see how a top-notch modern BW player would do in SC2, and Effort definitely fits the bill.

Judging from FD, Nestea and OgsMC's performance. These 3 are BW ex-progamer but they never archieve anything big in BW.
I'd say some one like Stork or Fantasy will sweep the SC2 scene clean if they switch over.
Terran
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
December 14 2010 05:40 GMT
#31
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 05:44:43
December 14 2010 05:44 GMT
#32
On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.

You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.
hi. big fan.
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 14 2010 05:47 GMT
#33
Good to see Huk and IdrA climbing that ladder.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
December 14 2010 05:59 GMT
#34
On December 14 2010 11:46 netherDrake wrote:
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On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?


It's a typo by Junwi.

LOL that was hilarious! I can imagine his face after doing the name change only to realize he made a typo LOL
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namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:11:32
December 14 2010 06:10 GMT
#35
On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:
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On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.

You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.


don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually there's only 2 on KR ladder.
You know what I'm talking about
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:42:25
December 14 2010 06:17 GMT
#36
On December 14 2010 15:10 namedplayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:
On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.

You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.


don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually we got only 2 on KR ladder.

Key word, abusive. To negate what you're saying you have to play proactively and Not reactionary. This perfectly describes MKP's style. To some extent it grants immediate success playing proactively, however once people figure your style out you will fall apart. Reactionary players > Proactive players in the long run. For an example of why this style is flawed watch the series between MC and MKP. In one of the games, on Jungle Basin his late-game control was laughable (His ghost play gave me giggles) This is a direct result of being a Proactive player as most of his games don't make late-game and as such he doesn't have the best late-game in the world.

Now back to what I'm saying, His win ratio is based purely on style. You can enjoy a high win ratio by playing like this but once you are figured out, you are done. Which is why most Koreans don't have a high win ratio instead focusing on a more all round style which will work out for them in the long run.

One other thing, games played. When the account has over 1k games played and has the same win ratio then it deserves to be appreciated, other than that you guys really need to get off the MKP bandwagon. He isn't as good as people think.

Note: Playing proactively imostly pertains to Protoss & Terran, though possible with Zerg it goes against the races mechanics is very hard to pull off at a competitive level.
hi. big fan.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
December 14 2010 06:34 GMT
#37
On December 14 2010 14:59 mrdx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 11:46 netherDrake wrote:
On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?


It's a typo by Junwi.

LOL that was hilarious! I can imagine his face after doing the name change only to realize he made a typo LOL


Supposedly he made the typo intentionally out of respect for Prime after he was no longer in their clan or something (so said Tastosis during a gsl cast)
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
December 14 2010 06:37 GMT
#38
On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.

You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.

thats actually a very good point regarding the supposed to be effort. thats either a zerg player who never gets caught offguard or a player who never loses unless he gets caught off guard.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Lockindal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States73 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 06:41:24
December 14 2010 06:41 GMT
#39
On December 14 2010 11:11 Antoine wrote:
[spoiler=player list] Huk went up again from 65 to 42


WOOT GO HUK.

FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 07:03:18
December 14 2010 06:54 GMT
#40
On December 14 2010 15:34 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:59 mrdx wrote:
On December 14 2010 11:46 netherDrake wrote:
On December 14 2010 11:25 PinkPrincess wrote:
Did Junwi really spell his name IMJunwiPirme or did someone make a typo?


It's a typo by Junwi.

LOL that was hilarious! I can imagine his face after doing the name change only to realize he made a typo LOL


Supposedly he made the typo intentionally out of respect for Prime after he was no longer in their clan or something (so said Tastosis during a gsl cast)

To me that doesn't make sense unless he likes the letters P R I M and E in his name.
hi. big fan.
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