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JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
December 14 2010 07:13 GMT
#41
seriously did NEXExcrement just pull that name out of his ass?

either that or he has a weird sense of humor
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
December 14 2010 07:15 GMT
#42
191 eNvious 190 134

eNvious started playing in the korean server? If so, nice
750/750 emotions fully stacked
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
December 14 2010 07:34 GMT
#43
i'm gonna lose my shit if that's effort.
Asagud
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden74 Posts
December 14 2010 09:27 GMT
#44
I think the most impressive thing is Idra. After watching his stream he pretty often just surrenders games instantly when seeing who it is and on which map. I saw this happen about four times in a row against a T when he got DQ all the time. He does this alot. He has a very good percentage in the games he actually play =)

(I know that he probably surrenders because he thinks it's impossible to win, but anyways)
Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
December 14 2010 09:28 GMT
#45
Moon (Liberty) @ 19,
THE beast has been awoken!!!
Began Starcraft journey on 5th May 2009
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
December 14 2010 09:51 GMT
#46
i'm not gonna scream like a girl until it's confirmed to be Effort.

namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 10:20:00
December 14 2010 10:19 GMT
#47
On December 14 2010 15:17 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:10 namedplayer wrote:
On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:
On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.

You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.


don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually we got only 2 on KR ladder.

Key word, abusive. To negate what you're saying you have to play proactively and Not reactionary. This perfectly describes MKP's style. To some extent it grants immediate success playing proactively, however once people figure your style out you will fall apart. Reactionary players > Proactive players in the long run. For an example of why this style is flawed watch the series between MC and MKP. In one of the games, on Jungle Basin his late-game control was laughable (His ghost play gave me giggles) This is a direct result of being a Proactive player as most of his games don't make late-game and as such he doesn't have the best late-game in the world.

Now back to what I'm saying, His win ratio is based purely on style. You can enjoy a high win ratio by playing like this but once you are figured out, you are done. Which is why most Koreans don't have a high win ratio instead focusing on a more all round style which will work out for them in the long run.

One other thing, games played. When the account has over 1k games played and has the same win ratio then it deserves to be appreciated, other than that you guys really need to get off the MKP bandwagon. He isn't as good as people think.

Note: Playing proactively imostly pertains to Protoss & Terran, though possible with Zerg it goes against the races mechanics is very hard to pull off at a competitive level.


look at huk's new account and look at idra's account. idra was 6x% when he got less then 200 games...
You know what I'm talking about
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
December 14 2010 11:11 GMT
#48
Zerg getting absolutely destroyed and Terran owning again... common Blizzard open ur eyes! This is how it's been basically since the game came out, would think they'd figure out how to fix this better by now.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
December 14 2010 13:59 GMT
#49
On December 14 2010 19:19 namedplayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:17 FataLe wrote:
On December 14 2010 15:10 namedplayer wrote:
On December 14 2010 14:44 FataLe wrote:
On December 14 2010 14:40 bearhug wrote:
MK win 259 lost 94, a Win ratio 73.37%. Amazing.

You do realize that if most top Koreans make a new account they will get the around the same win ratio right? Especially if they're playing abusive.


don't underestimate KR ladder.. you have to know how to deal with every kind of timing attack, cheese in order to reach 3000++ with 73% win ratio. not many people can do that. actually we got only 2 on KR ladder.

Key word, abusive. To negate what you're saying you have to play proactively and Not reactionary. This perfectly describes MKP's style. To some extent it grants immediate success playing proactively, however once people figure your style out you will fall apart. Reactionary players > Proactive players in the long run. For an example of why this style is flawed watch the series between MC and MKP. In one of the games, on Jungle Basin his late-game control was laughable (His ghost play gave me giggles) This is a direct result of being a Proactive player as most of his games don't make late-game and as such he doesn't have the best late-game in the world.

Now back to what I'm saying, His win ratio is based purely on style. You can enjoy a high win ratio by playing like this but once you are figured out, you are done. Which is why most Koreans don't have a high win ratio instead focusing on a more all round style which will work out for them in the long run.

One other thing, games played. When the account has over 1k games played and has the same win ratio then it deserves to be appreciated, other than that you guys really need to get off the MKP bandwagon. He isn't as good as people think.

Note: Playing proactively imostly pertains to Protoss & Terran, though possible with Zerg it goes against the races mechanics is very hard to pull off at a competitive level.


look at huk's new account and look at idra's account. idra was 6x% when he got less then 200 games...

Are you implying I think that reactionary players can't have a winratio over 50%? You're giving me the impression that you don't have a clue of what I'm talking about.
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parkLife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada125 Posts
December 14 2010 14:14 GMT
#50
Hahaha MyLifeforIU!!! such a good ID, if anyone knows IU or has seen the GomTV commercial, then they'd get it
In SC1, ZvZ was Rock-Paper-Scissors... unless JaeDong was playing, then it was Rock-Paper-Scissors-JD, and JD beats all of them.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
December 14 2010 15:35 GMT
#51
On December 14 2010 18:28 Gunman_csz wrote:
Moon (Liberty) @ 19,
THE beast has been awoken!!!

He's practicing for his Code A tiebreaker
the farm ends here
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
December 14 2010 15:36 GMT
#52
If that's actually Eff0rt my brain will explode. He'll simply dominate the game with his level of pure talent. And that's not just the Entus fanboy talking. :p
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
December 14 2010 15:43 GMT
#53
LofSolar is probably Artosis and jOystiCk is probably Tasteless (if both are really smurfing in ladder).
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
December 14 2010 15:51 GMT
#54
On December 15 2010 00:35 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 18:28 Gunman_csz wrote:
Moon (Liberty) @ 19,
THE beast has been awoken!!!

He's practicing for his Code A tiebreaker


Terran? Is that because he has more games played as T or did he switch back?
No pain, no gain!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 16 2010 00:19 GMT
#55
So oGsTheWind hit etd.grrr when laddering on stream today. After the game, i asked in chat if it was 기욤 and thewind said no, so unless he was screwing with me (who knows how likely this is, but I'm discounting it) or was saying it for some other reason (very unlikely given everything else in chat at the moment) then we can say that etd.grrr is not the real grrr.
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
December 16 2010 00:31 GMT
#56
Highly, Highly, Highly doubt it is effort. He was quite adamant about doing other things besides gaming, and last I heard he was attending university and doing quite well. There's a high possibility that he may play SC2 a little, but the time it takes to achieve such a high ranking on the ladder is something he both doesn't have and isn't willing to make.

On a more serious not, NEXExcrement sure has his shit together.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 16 2010 00:35 GMT
#57
EffOrt playing would make my christmas...seriously..I can only hope
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
December 16 2010 00:36 GMT
#58
Nerf Marauder HP or attack, buff zergling attack a little or spine crawlers, done.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 16 2010 00:36 GMT
#59
On December 14 2010 16:13 JoeSchmoe wrote:
seriously did NEXExcrement just pull that name out of his ass?



pun intended?
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
December 16 2010 00:40 GMT
#60
I doubt it is EffOrt.
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