Blizzard sues Starcraft II hackers - Page 13

On October 17 2010 06:27 okaygo wrote:
A gunsmith shouldn't be involved in a murder case because somebody used a gun to murder. Just like a coder shouldn't be involved in a hacking case because somebody decided to use a hack. I DO NOT SUPPORT FINANCIAL GAIN off the products, but some of the people named in the complaint only ever released source code to provide some education to those interested in reverse engineering or programming. Do you really think the money Blizzard is spending on lawyers is going to outweigh the money lost to hackers? They might as well spend that money on the hack prevention team to update Warden. You guys cheering obviously know nothing about IP rights or the claims made by Blizzard and how outrageous this is becoming in terms of protecting the end-user, and this wont stop hackers as if you actually read the court case you'd see that plenty of the defendants are John Does and will remain John Does because of the anonymity of the internet. You guys sicken me.

And this lawsuit also means that Blizzard controls KeSPA and all Esports too.

On October 17 2010 07:00 MayorITC wrote:


1. Bad analogy
- Gunsmiths don't sign an agreement in which they state that they will not make guns. The defendants, however, agreed to a contract, which they did not uphold. Furthermore, as someone else already mentioned, gun smiths/vendors are required by law to follow certain protocol when selling guns. The protocol is equivalent to a EULA and if a gun vendor/game purchaser doesn't follow it, then they're responsible.

2. "Some of the people named in the complaint only ever released source code to provide some education to those interested in reverse engineering or programming"
- Please provide proof of this one. If there's solid irrefutable proof, then those individuals have nothing to worry about. But for the time being, I think most people will side with Blizzard's word because they evidently dedicated a lot of time/resources into this matter if they're going to the extent of filing a lawsuit.

3. "Do you really think the money Blizzard is spending on lawyers is going to outweigh the money lost to hackers?"
- No, of course not. And that's why people really respect Blizzard. They're not going to profit on this by suing some kids who probably can't even cover litigation costs let alone the penalties. But they're doing this to send a message to others. Why spend resources on a losing battle of security vs hackers if the hackers lose nothing but time while Blizzard is losing customer satisfaction from legitimate players?

4. And this lawsuit also means that Blizzard controls KeSPA and all Esports too.
- Ya, and Blizzard's offspring is the Anti-Christ, not to mention they were behind every assassination in history.

Don't get mad because you spent some money on hacks and now you won't get the latest updates. And before you protest, maybe you should look at your own claims which you provide no evidence for before trying to refute mine.

On October 17 2010 07:24 okaygo wrote:


1. How can Blizzard prove that the defendants actually agreed to the EULA, if they can make a hack to show the whole mini-map, surely they could write one to bypass the agreement all together. EULA's shouldn't hold any legal grounds, if they do then this is terrible news for any computer user.

2. Linuxisawesome, Dark Mage, both never released any binaries, profited from, or facilitated in the sales of hacks. Linuxisawesome only came on the scene for about 1 month and wrote an open source maphack.

3. "And that's why we respect the big music companies who sue the parents of some 12 year old girl for hundred of thousands of dollars for downloading the new miley cyrus album". The only message received by the game hacking developers is to be more careful. Everyone has already followed the WoWGlider case. This won't have any impact on the 'hacking scene' of SC2. And of course the NAMED coders are going to fold and run along, but some will step up and fill the roles. Hopefully they will do it with a little more anonymity. You can't sue a ghost of the internet.

4. This lawsuit means that Blizzard has full control over SC and anybody who touches it is bound by the EULA or will face legal issues. Don't you already see how BW is losing in Korea? They are going to be fighting an uphill battle to survive. Why? Because blizzard owns and controls anything related to SC since they "accepted the EULA".

I never once hacked in SC:BW, or SCII, would never buy any hacks. I would make my own if I really desired them. This isn't about defending hackers, its about defending our rights. But people like you obviously have no idea what rights are being put on the line if Blizzard wins this. Although it might be too late because of the Glider case. Anyways, this is my last response to this topic.

Best wishes to those named in the case,.

On October 17 2010 07:12 bLuR wrote:
This is really good news... hopefully it scares other cheaters away

On October 17 2010 03:59 Winks wrote:
I'd be interested to see a poll of how many people have encountered a hacker online themselves... people always scream about hackers on TL when they actually encounter one... no one chimes in to announce that they played 30 games today and didn't see any suspicious play.

On October 17 2010 07:40 McFoo wrote:


Hacker =/= cheater.
The only reason Blizzard can have for doing this is scaring people from distributing/using hacks. In other words, they are going to ruin the lives of a few people just so they can control the rest. Like Stalin silencing dissidents so he can run his fascist regime:- and you guys are applauding.
Tbh I hope these hackers are seen as martyrs in the hacker community and more people than ever make hacks just to show Blizzard that they can't get away with abusing their power like this.

You who think that people's lives ought to be ruined for making hacks for video games need to take a step back and actually think about what's important.

On October 17 2010 08:17 quasit wrote:


Do really that many people watch their replays? It's the only way to spot maphacks, which I guess is the most used cheat.
Then there's the problem that new maphacks won't show up in replays showing the enemy moving their camera over the fog of war, making it much harder to spot maphacks. At least that's what I've read.